That brings up another subject. Actual hold is never near what is advertised or mathematically figured especially when the most of the players are playing less than perfect. I have a friend that was an accountant at a casino I will not name. He did regular audits on all machines and he said most were in the 60-80% range over the long term. These were all game king VP machines that he audited. He also noted that almost all of the end machines were in the 80% range while the others were much lower. I have played with this guy for many years and trust his comments. It makes me wonder sometimes how the casinos claim they dont make any money on VP.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "radek2166" <radek2166@...> wrote:
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> I wonder what Frank gets from these machines. The mind reels from this discussion. Some 99+ machines would be nice. I prefer JoB myself.
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> Saw a lady hit a RF last night holding A/10 : ). Casinos IMHO can put some +99% out. I really do wonder what the casinos hold is on these machines.
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> I live 2 minutes of santa fe and did not play there til they put in some 9/6 JoB.
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