[vpFREE] Lack of quads

 



What I guess I am not expressing is that while playing 10 play I got dealt three of a joking Aces like 10 times, trip 2s say 5 times, trip 4s 5 times, trip 3s 2 times, trip kings 3 times, trip 10s once, 9s 2 times, 8s 3 times, 7s twice, 6s 3 times, 5a twice, and yet in the entire time only got at most (I wasn't counting) quad 7s once out of the entire results.

Add that all up and it we are talking maybe 35 instances to dealt trips x 10 lines, yet only one final line of any quads. You should get the final quad card holding 3 dealts more often than 1 in 47 times, cause u already saw 5 cards, isn't it basically the redraw of 1 card is a 1 in 46 chance, and the redraw of the second empty space is 1 in 45... I'm not mathematically educated enough to give u the exact probability for 1 line with 3 dealt, but I'm getting that on average you should end up getting about 7 or more final quad results in my 10 play 35 instances of trips dealt example and 1 final quad seems a bit odd!

The thing is, this is not the only time this has happened to me over the past year or three. it seems all too common for 5 play, which is what I usually play, over and over and over (sorry I wasn't counting, but I guess I should), 3 of a kind dealt on multi-lines, and no final quads or very few (fewer than expected, not more than expected).

Yet I do get quads holding 1, 2, or even 0 cards.

The averages seem to work out pretty much as expected for single line. I am specifically talking about multi line oddity. And 3 play seems too be more normal than 5 or 10 play.

Hope this is a little more understandable to those of you who just don't want to believe the random number generators could be off.

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[vpFREE] rob singer posts

 



I think the the vp moderator was right about his initial concerns with Rob Singer responses(3 and counting) to this subject being disruptive. I would respectfully suggest that Mr Singer be barred from any further participation on this thread so the rest of the group may enjoy this subject without controversy.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:
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> > This fellow's handle "gamblinman" gives us a clue as to why he believes
> > that the math is "drivel." He's a gambler ...
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: What Would It Take???

 

I don't think gamblinman was dissing the math as much as he was the exercise. Besides, everyone who plays a vp machine inside a casino is gambling, not all advantage players win, and not everyone else loses.

"gamblinman46825" wrote:
> > This whole subject is drivel and serves little purpose in my opinion!

Dan Paymar replied:
> This fellow's handle "gamblinman" gives us a clue as to why he believes
> that the math is "drivel." He's a gambler ...

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[vpFREE] Re: Station Casinos

 

I can only speak for myself as an out-of-towner, you will get next to nothing offers. 1 buffet in 3 months, and 1 6x points.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "esr18337" <esr18337@...> wrote:
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> I have heard that the Station casinos use a common card. Does that mean
> that if I play at one Station casino I will get offers from all of them
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[vpFREE] Re: What Would It Take???

 

> In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "gamblinman46825" <aesop31@...
> > wrote: This kind of STUFF is why I will be leaving this group. Seems
> some people want to always run the show and hog the web space.
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> > This whole subject is drivel and serves little purpose in my opinion!

This fellow's handle "gamblinman" gives us a clue as to why he believes
that the math is "drivel." He's a gambler. As Mark Twain said, "Let us
be thankful for the fools. But for them, the rest of us could not
succeed." So be thankful that for every advantage player there are
hundreds or thousands of players who give the casino a profit on games
with over 100% potential payback and help to build up progressives.

--
Dan Paymar, Author of "Video Poker - Optimum Play"
Visit my web site at http://www.OptimumPlay.com
"Chance favors the prepared mind" ~ Louis Pasteur

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[vpFREE] FW: M Resort Facebook Promotion Rewards New and Current Imagine Rewards Members with 2,500 Free Points in April

 



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Re: [vpFREE] Station Casinos information needed..

 

Last September we played a couple of hours on the FPDW at Boulder
Station. Had not been there for years.
After a couple of months, got a mailer for:
$25 free play, 2 free buffets, 2 free nights Sun-Thur at RR,GVR ($79
weekends), or 3 free nights at Sunset
Station,Fiesta/H,Palace,Aliente,Fiesta/R,Santa Fe,Boulder,Texas anytime.

I signed up to the Stations web site and joined "mystation"
Looks like I had 458 points and 1845 status credits from Boulder. So I
did not gamble all that much at Boulder Station.

I converted our Fiesta Amigo card to Stations MYstation and I continue
to get 3 overlapping room offers (each good for 2 months) plus buffet
plus free play.
2 free nights Sun-Thur at RR,GVR ($79 weekends), or 3 free nights at
Sunset Station,Fiesta/H,Palace,Aliente,Fiesta/R,Santa Fe,Boulder,Texas.
Fiesta/H is our "home" Station casino. I did have a lot of old points
on the Amigo Card though.

So you can play at one Station and get offers to use at any of them.

Dennis
vp-connoisseur

esr18337 wrote:

>I am thinking of trying out Vegas for the first time. I have been going to Atlantic City for many years and to be honest I am just sick of the place. I have heard that the Station Casinos are pretty good.But I would like to have some information in my hip pocket before I head out there.
>If I play at more than one station casino will I get offers from wherever I play or only from the station casino they consider my "home" casino ?... Thanks for any help :)
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[vpFREE] Re: Plaza $149 2 nights w/ $300 slot play, massage, $50 food cre...

 

When this was purchased there is a part on the deal( with Living Social) that says the "fine print". Nowhere is there anything about this being a time share in the fine print.

That being said I printed out my voucher and called the number they gave me to make the reservation----- nobody is answereing .

stand by

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> > well, I hope for the people who bite you are correct. But the fact there is no info online about the "Exotic Escapes Resort" company online other than a bare bones facebook page should be a cause for concern. Plus the fact they are in located in Florida screams timeshare.
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[vpFREE] Re: Plaza $149 2 nights w/ $300 slot play, massage, $50 food cre...

 

Great, I'm sure many of us would appreciate it. If this turns out to be kosher I'll double book there as I already have a room there in May at $22 a night through hotels.com.

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[vpFREE] Station Casinos information needed..

 

I am thinking of trying out Vegas for the first time. I have been going to Atlantic City for many years and to be honest I am just sick of the place. I have heard that the Station Casinos are pretty good.But I would like to have some information in my hip pocket before I head out there.
If I play at more than one station casino will I get offers from wherever I play or only from the station casino they consider my "home" casino ?... Thanks for any help :)

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[vpFREE] Re: Palms Now a Shadow of its Old Self for VP Players

 

i know there are 4 banks by the players club that have 25cent and 50cent 9/6 jacks--nsud---and 8/5 bous poker

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> > I live in Canada and have been a regular at the Palms since December 2001 but not anymore. There used to be great VP which I enjoyed playing and on which I would occasionally win at. I enjoyed playing other games too which certainly granted me great promos and invites over the years. Sadly in the last couple of years I have noticed the ongoing decline you speak of. I hadn't changed my play but it now resulted in surprisingly lowball offers. Whereas I would get offers for $750.00 free play, 3 nights in a suite, $300.00 + towards dining or spa, now I get a couple of show tickets to some obscure comedy or rock performer, 2 nights in a room and $100 in free play. Why bother? I give Wynn, Caesar's,MGM and the Venetian the same amount of play and consistently get great offers from all. Venetian for a year or so did go weird and the offers went lowball, so I just stopped going. Now they have resumed the good offers and I have returned. I guess they must have lost a lot of customers during that time.
> > Maybe the Palms will wake up or maybe not. I went through the same thing with Red Rock a few years ago where I got great offers with free play and RFB, then suddenly they stopped cold and so I stopped going. When I asked my host why the offers had stopped, the answer was that it was a new directive by Station Casino. By the time they tried to get me to return it was too late as I was getting equally good offers from different properties I had begun playing at and had no desire to return to Red Rock. That same host admitted to me that the directive had cost Station to lose a lot of players.
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[vpFREE] Re: Plaza $149 2 nights w/ $300 slot play, massage, $50 food cre...

 

I'm curious but I won't bite. I got 2 nights at the Plaza in May at $22 a night through hotels.com.
This offer does sound tooooo good. Especially when the Plaza has a long list of known gamblers to send out comped rooms to. Why chance getting burned by sharpies or deadbeats?
If it's kosher this is a better deal than Stupak ever offered!

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don parks" <donparks21@...> wrote:
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> well, I hope for the people who bite you are correct. But the fact there is no info online about the "Exotic Escapes Resort" company online other than a bare bones facebook page should be a cause for concern. Plus the fact they are in located in Florida screams timeshare.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Cohen <brucedcohen2002@> wrote:
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> > If you go to the Plaza website it makes more sense.
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> > It looks like they are selling rooms there for $29.00 weekdays.
> > From what I understand the food and massage are both for
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> > Freshly remodeled still pretty slow, and not everyone is
> > like us who will run that $300 through the highest Ev
> > VP machine we can find and then cash out.
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> > I say bully for the Plaza for making a crazy offer and
> > hoping that enough people have fun and give good
> > reviews they get repeat and referral business.
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> > I hope.
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> > --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Don parks <donparks21@> wrote:
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> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Plaza $149 2 nights w/ $300 slot play, massage, $50 food cre...
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> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, James Thompson <jamesgthompson@> wrote:
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[vpFREE] Re: Palms Now a Shadow of its Old Self for VP Players

 


Anyone know if they still have the quarter NSUD?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mofromto2" <mike69tigg@...> wrote:
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> I live in Canada and have been a regular at the Palms since December 2001 but not anymore. There used to be great VP which I enjoyed playing and on which I would occasionally win at. I enjoyed playing other games too which certainly granted me great promos and invites over the years. Sadly in the last couple of years I have noticed the ongoing decline you speak of. I hadn't changed my play but it now resulted in surprisingly lowball offers. Whereas I would get offers for $750.00 free play, 3 nights in a suite, $300.00 + towards dining or spa, now I get a couple of show tickets to some obscure comedy or rock performer, 2 nights in a room and $100 in free play. Why bother? I give Wynn, Caesar's,MGM and the Venetian the same amount of play and consistently get great offers from all. Venetian for a year or so did go weird and the offers went lowball, so I just stopped going. Now they have resumed the good offers and I have returned. I guess they must have lost a lot of customers during that time.
> Maybe the Palms will wake up or maybe not. I went through the same thing with Red Rock a few years ago where I got great offers with free play and RFB, then suddenly they stopped cold and so I stopped going. When I asked my host why the offers had stopped, the answer was that it was a new directive by Station Casino. By the time they tried to get me to return it was too late as I was getting equally good offers from different properties I had begun playing at and had no desire to return to Red Rock. That same host admitted to me that the directive had cost Station to lose a lot of players.
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[vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 20 MAR 2012

 

Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 20 MAR 2012

"Sports Fans Learn Bad Common Sense"

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2012/0320.cfm

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http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2012/0320.cfm</a>

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