Re: [vpFREE] Re: progressive machine

 

I'm surprised that the denominator isn't evenly divisible into 52! /
42!

nightoftheiguana wrote:

>109401553661/10400841
>equals to 50 digits:
>10518.529574771886234968883766226211899595426946725
>
>
>
>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <007@...> wrote:
>>
>> I suspect that's still rounded off. The exact fraction, as simplified
>> as possible, has more than 10 digits in the numerator and around 10 in
>> the denominator.
>>
>> nightoftheiguana wrote:
>>
>> >I get 10518.5294949176 coins.
>> >
>> >
>> >--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <007@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> At 10,518 coins, the payback is 99.9997% and at 10,519 coins, it's
>> >> 100.0003%. Splitting the difference, it's $2629.625.
>> >>
>> >> 5-card wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I find it interesting that all three posts have a different answer. I show
>> >> >$2,629.75 = 100% using perfect strategy on my web site. Perhaps some are
>> >> >using "Frugal VP" and penalty free strategy to analyze. I assume that
>> >> >"Optimum Video Poker" rounds to the nearest dollar.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _____
>> >> >
>> >> >From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>> >> >vpds7898
>> >> >Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 1:32 AM
>> >> >To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >Subject: [vpFREE] progressive machine
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >can anyone tell how high royal flush has to be to be a 100% play.machine is
>> >> >job 7/5
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[vpFREE] Re: progressive machine

 

109401553661/10400841
equals to 50 digits:
10518.529574771886234968883766226211899595426946725

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <007@...> wrote:
>
> I suspect that's still rounded off. The exact fraction, as simplified
> as possible, has more than 10 digits in the numerator and around 10 in
> the denominator.
>
> nightoftheiguana wrote:
>
> >I get 10518.5294949176 coins.
> >
> >
> >--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <007@> wrote:
> >>
> >> At 10,518 coins, the payback is 99.9997% and at 10,519 coins, it's
> >> 100.0003%. Splitting the difference, it's $2629.625.
> >>
> >> 5-card wrote:
> >>
> >> >I find it interesting that all three posts have a different answer. I show
> >> >$2,629.75 = 100% using perfect strategy on my web site. Perhaps some are
> >> >using "Frugal VP" and penalty free strategy to analyze. I assume that
> >> >"Optimum Video Poker" rounds to the nearest dollar.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _____
> >> >
> >> >From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >> >vpds7898
> >> >Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 1:32 AM
> >> >To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> >> >Subject: [vpFREE] progressive machine
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >can anyone tell how high royal flush has to be to be a 100% play.machine is
> >> >job 7/5
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: From the Airport to Sam's Town and Playing Video Poker There

 

Sams Town has greatly reduced the free shuttle service. However, they
do now offer some airport service.

Check:
http://www.samstownlv.com/stay/shuttle-service

Free Airport Shuttle Service

Sam's Town to Airport
10:30 a.m. (arrives 11:00am)
4:00pm (arrives 4:30pm)

Airport to Sam's Town
11:15 a.m. (arrives 11:45am)
4:45pm (arrives 5:15pm)

The rooms have been improved with large flat screen TVs. Some have
coffee makers and refrigerators.
They moved Wiley & Jose to replace the Italian restaurant. You can
still get the birthday special there if you ask.
The VP is about the same.

Dennis
vp-connoisseur

gimmeaquad wrote:

>A taxi would could just over $30. I would not take the CAT/RTC bus as you would have to transfer at least once. During the day, no problem. Not after midnight.
>
>GimmeaQuad
>
>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "donald" <seetrout699@...> wrote:
>
>
>>I am flying in from Canada and will be arriving well after the Sam's Town shuttle has shut down for the day. I am travelling alone.
>>
>>I am looking for the most economical way to get to Sam's Town around 11pm. I do not mind a couple of connections if that will save me $10-$20. Roughly how much would it cost?
>>
>>Any idea how much a cab would cost at that hour?
>>
>>Anything good or bad to say about Sam's Town these days?
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
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[vpFREE] Re: Preview of Upcoming Article in Black Jack Insider

 

Steve Wynn is an advantage player. What kind of an edge does he hold at Blackjack? Is it 1% or 2% like a professional video poker player might hold? And with his overhead he probably has to win $1,000,000 a day just to breakeven. I wonder if he is convinced that he is not really gambling.

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Re: [vpFREE] Preview of Upcoming Article in Black Jack Insider

 

Rob wrote:

>Worse still, AP's and the "experts & math people" aren't even convinced they're gambling as they play the machines.

How is seeing that underlying expected value is "real," whereas
fluctuation is illusory, "worse" than gambling addiction, which
requires the short-sighted view that fluctuation is "real?"

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[vpFREE] Re: Preview of Upcoming Article in Black Jack Insider

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> My upcoming article in BJI will be a very special interview with Dr. William G. McCown the author of "Best Possible Odds" and five other books on problem gambling, including his most recent book, "Treating Gambling Problems". He is currently the Dean of the University of Louisiana at Munroe.
>
> What's going to be so special about this interview is we are going to be discussing problem gambling prevention. This would be how to know you might have a problem BEFORE you have one, or even in the event you were a winning gambler (so far).
>
> If you are unfamiliar with current treatment strategies employed by the psychological and medical community, you can't begin to understand how unusual and important this interview will be. There is no prevention currently in place in America. None! Currently the best treatment strategies involve waiting for the bodies to hit the rocks and trying to reattach the severed shattered pieces.
>
> One month after this is published in BJI I'll repost it here for free. I just wanted to give you all a heads up on what I am working on. I am working hand in hand with Dr. McCown on this, and I hope the information is useful or at least very interesting...
>
> Let me add a caveat, or at least an exposition: I am of the belief that it would be more fun to gamble free of guilt and concern that one might have a problem. So my goal with this interview is not to ruin people's fun. Quite the opposite, my goal is to empower people without issues to have more fun. Of course some people may have issues, and for these folks my goal is to give them the tools to spot potential problems before it is too late. AKA, before they are broke and penniless.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Frank Kneeland

This is noble work you and Dr. McCown are doing. It cant be very popular though, problem gamblers dont want to hear that they have a problem, and casinos are quite happy with the current system of treating people only once they are broke.

I wish you both much success in your endeavor. This research could save many people a lot of pain. Kudos to you!
>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 13 JAN 2012

 

My personal dates are in red and the public ones have a gray background. If next months mailer is the same I'll e-mail you the dates. It could just be for Chairman but I have no way of knowing, Pat

________________________________
From: Scot Krause <krauseinvegas@cox.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 13 JAN 2012


 

Are you sure those aren't for your personal dates? I get those too but just for my dates, not open to the public dates. Maybe Chairman gets "insider info?" :)

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat Nashick
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:30 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 13 JAN 2012

The dates are in the monthly calendars that they sent me (I'm Chairman) for both Stations and Fiesta.

________________________________
From: Scot Krause <krauseinvegas@cox.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 13 JAN 2012

Right. I've been notified. Will fix the sat to Monday. Wondering how you got
the advance on 20 and 28? They will only tell me 2 days in advance by their
authority. Hmmmm...

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Correna H
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:48 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update -
13 JAN 2012

Re Stations Offer: January 16th is a Monday, not a Saturday. 2x points
days at Stations for January are: 6, 14, 16, 20 and 28.

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[vpFREE] Re: Preview of Upcoming Article in Black Jack Insider

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> My upcoming article in BJI will be a very special interview with Dr. William G. McCown the author of "Best Possible Odds" and five other books on problem gambling, including his most recent book, "Treating Gambling Problems". He is currently the Dean of the University of Louisiana at Munroe.
>
> What's going to be so special about this interview is we are going to be discussing problem gambling prevention. This would be how to know you might have a problem BEFORE you have one, or even in the event you were a winning gambler (so far).
>
> If you are unfamiliar with current treatment strategies employed by the psychological and medical community, you can't begin to understand how unusual and important this interview will be. There is no prevention currently in place in America. None! Currently the best treatment strategies involve waiting for the bodies to hit the rocks and trying to reattach the severed shattered pieces.
>
> One month after this is published in BJI I'll repost it here for free. I just wanted to give you all a heads up on what I am working on. I am working hand in hand with Dr. McCown on this, and I hope the information is useful or at least very interesting...
>
> Let me add a caveat, or at least an exposition: I am of the belief that it would be more fun to gamble free of guilt and concern that one might have a problem. So my goal with this interview is not to ruin people's fun. Quite the opposite, my goal is to empower people without issues to have more fun. Of course some people may have issues, and for these folks my goal is to give them the tools to spot potential problems before it is too late. AKA, before they are broke and penniless.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Frank Kneeland

This is noble work you and Dr. McCown are doing. It cant be very popular though, problem gamblers dont want to hear that they have a problem, and casinos are quite happy with the current system of treating people only once they are broke.

I wish you both much success in your endeavor. This research could save many people a lot of pain. Kudos to you!
>

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[vpFREE] Re: Palms Trip Report Part 2

 



>More tomorrow as we will be checking into Flamingo ( we have never stayed there before either). We plan to go to the Mob Museum downtown and play some Let It Ride at Fremont and we have dinner reservations at the new "Oscars Steakhouse" at the newly remodeled Plaza.
> Pat

Thanks for the great trip report.

Just to save you some time: the Mob Museum downtown is not going to open until 2/14/12 (Valentine's Day). See their website at http://themobmuseum.org/

ST

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Re: [vpFREE] Preview of Upcoming Article in Black Jack Insider

 

Frank, you can have all the right intentions and the professionals can say the honest & right things until they're blue in the face. None of that will ever motivate regular players into ever admitting they even have anything resembling a problem. Worse still, AP's and the "experts & math people" aren't even convinced they're gambling as they play the machines.

Kudos to the person who can break down these barriers, and I look forward to what this gentleman has to say.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: progressive machine

 

Mickey wrote:

>Tom, you've been around a long time. Have you ever heard of a guy called Kenny the Klone. He was a legend in Reno. He is supposed to be from Pennsylvania, has a degree in electrical engineering, and was known as a compulsive gambler. But he is the one who taught Tuna Lund. The last I heard anything about him he was a proofreader for David Sklansky.

Yes, I definitely know the Clone/Klone. I didn't know some of what
you wrote about him, but the first I came across him was in Reno. I
played a keno progressive at Harold's Club and hit it in my first 5
cards. The first thing I was asked if I was playing for Ken Jones.

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[vpFREE] Re: progressive machine

 

Tom, you've been around a long time. Have you ever heard of a guy called Kenny the Klone. He was a legend in Reno. He is supposed to be from Pennsylvania, has a degree in electrical engineering, and was known as a compulsive gambler. But he is the one who taught Tuna Lund. The last I heard anything about him he was a proofreader for David Sklansky.

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