[vpFREE] Gold Coast Mysterious Mystery Free Play Promo

 

Their September Mystery Free Play Promotion is a mystery to me.  3 of us played the max of 10k on September 1.  On Saturday, collecting the mystery free play two of us got $10!! One got $60.  Very tricky promotion.  No minimum was ever given – just a range of maximums, going up depending on how many points you earned.  Silly me – I thought the minimum for the top level might be something at least like $25.  I wonder what the minimum was for people who only played for the lowest level – $1.98????
 
Wonder if the minimum depended on whether you played "good" or "bad" games???  Of course the 3 of us played the best games.  Would be interested in hearing what and how much others played and how much they got.
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RE: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 

The 4 Queens has been very generous for many years, much more so than many other casinos.  I'm not surprised that they have decided to tighten up some.  Although it may take more play to get better free play offers and free rooms, this is offset some by their new system of earning comps as well as earning points.  A recent letter spelled it out: For every 40 points earned you will receive 2 comp dollars along with $1 cashback.  These comp dollars can be used toward your hotel bill (as well as for food) – so for those who play a lot, they may still end up with getting their rooms free or heavily discounted.
 
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http://queenofcomps.com/
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Re: [vpFREE] xvp-Anyone in I-15 Traffic Sun. Sept 7 to LA from LV?

 

I love that route. I usually use the Nipton exit to get to 29 palms and gets me to Palm Springs in 3 hours from Las Vegas. Using Nipton also helps you get past the traffic after Primm, which can be quite bad even without any accidents. 


On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM, tomskilv@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Around 4pm on Sun. Sep 7, I was 15 miles south of Baker on I-15 to LA and was in a endless traffic stall. I heard two semis crashed and closed both sides of I-15  just north of Barstow which was still 25 miles ahead of me! I turned back to Baker and went south thru backroads to Kelso/29 Palms and my 5.5 hour trip took 8.5 hours.


Anyone get caught in the jam and how long did it take you to get thru it? Thanks. 

TomSki


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[vpFREE] xvp-Anyone in I-15 Traffic Sun. Sept 7 to LA from LV?

 

Around 4pm on Sun. Sep 7, I was 15 miles south of Baker on I-15 to LA and was in a endless traffic stall. I heard two semis crashed and closed both sides of I-15  just north of Barstow which was still 25 miles ahead of me! I turned back to Baker and went south thru backroads to Kelso/29 Palms and my 5.5 hour trip took 8.5 hours.


Anyone get caught in the jam and how long did it take you to get thru it? Thanks. 

TomSki

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Re: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 

Some will close some will open. Las Vegas is a much different market than Atlantic city. It is much more of a tourist destination, and you have people coming in from all over the world.

The Las Vegas casinos have already gone through learning about more competition from nearby states. Atlantic city didn't react as well to the nearby competition and have paid the price.
Perhaps the reduction in casinos in Atlantic city will make the ones that are left better or at least smarter.

I still believe that more competition is better for the customers.
 
A.P.

From: "David Kathary dwk33@hotmail.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 
Does this means LV casinos will go the way of AC casinos?  All closing down?
 

 Vegas777 vegas777@bell.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
Can't understand why they are treating loyal players like this. We have lots of offers from other casinos, so guess we won't be staying there anymore.
 

 






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Re: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 



Trying to post play history is impossible!
 
We have decicded it would be cheaper to pay to stay somewhere else and play wherever we want. You have to figure how much that free room is costing you.
 
LR
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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 8:02 PM
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In your original post you said your play had been consistent.
I am now confused.
If you could post your play history from the past 10 years perhaps someone could give you a better explanation as to what may be happening.
 
A.P.

From: "Vegas777 vegas777@bell.net [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:41 PM
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Our play has increased considerably over the years.
 
LR
The problem is possibly that your play hasn't changed. If you haven't had a raise in 10 years I'd be surprised. The casinos are looking for a raise. I've noticed that some of my offers have been reduced over the past year. I'm raising my play in the hope that my offers will go back to their previous levels.
 




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Re: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 

In your original post you said your play had been consistent.
I am now confused.
If you could post your play history from the past 10 years perhaps someone could give you a better explanation as to what may be happening.
 
A.P.

From: "Vegas777 vegas777@bell.net [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:41 PM
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Our play has increased considerably over the years.
 
LR
The problem is possibly that your play hasn't changed. If you haven't had a raise in 10 years I'd be surprised. The casinos are looking for a raise. I've noticed that some of my offers have been reduced over the past year. I'm raising my play in the hope that my offers will go back to their previous levels.
 




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Re: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 

That's certainly what is in play here. That's how they give themselves raises.
 
A.P.

From: "Alan Oncken ellenoralan@gmail.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 4:02 PM
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Thought casinos automatically give themselves "raises" by constantly increasing the "tier" level requirements.

On 8 September 2014 15:49, Albert Pearson ehpee@rogers.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
The problem is possibly that your play hasn't changed. If you haven't had a raise in 10 years I'd be surprised. The casinos are looking for a raise. I've noticed that some of my offers have been reduced over the past year. I'm raising my play in the hope that my offers will go back to their previous levels.
It seems to me that it is just normal price increases, the same as gas or anything else.  
 
A.P.



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RE: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 

Does this means LV casinos will go the way of AC casinos?  All closing down?
 

 Vegas777 vegas777@bell.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
Can't understand why they are treating loyal players like this. We have lots of offers from other casinos, so guess we won't be staying there anymore.
 

 





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RE: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 

AP hit it directly on the head..after a while, the casino sees that it cannot make money on you (in their eyes) because your play hasn't changed at all.

Ultimately (this was told to me by a long time SENIOR host) what the casino wants is for you to keep raising your playing level, and they will keep giving you comps (kind of like putting a carrot in front of a horse, to entice it to keep moving). Once they realize you've "plateaued" they will pull-back (remove the carrot) and move on to other customers...it's a simple business model really.

The only people who wouldn't have followed that have all since got out of the business (Benny Binion, Jackie Gaughn, John Ascuaga)

To avoid this, somehow get ahold of a "new account" and start off with say $10k coin-in, then next trip move up to $11k coin-in, and so on and so on...watch what happens.

(I actually did this, except I was more strict, I did $10,005, then $10,010. LOL)

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Re: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 



Our play has increased considerably over the years.
 
LR

The problem is possibly that your play hasn't changed. If you haven't had a raise in 10 years I'd be surprised. The casinos are looking for a raise. I've noticed that some of my offers have been reduced over the past year. I'm raising my play in the hope that my offers will go back to their previous levels.
 


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RE: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 

I have had a good experience with the 4 Queens and as a result I try to give them the largest portion of my gambling.  If I hit early, I make a point of playing my average time and coin-in. 

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:49:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 

Another possibility, of course, is that the casino's valuation of your play has changed. This might not be, and probably is not, directed specifically at you.

If a casino reevaluates their "theo" the same amount of play is proportionately less valuable, hence worth fewer or lesser comps. In a glaring example, a few years ago, Mohegan Sun reduced its theo by 70%, so a $1000 daily player became a $300 player. Obviously comps and bennies plummeted as a result, tier levels changed. Unfortunately what followed was still worse, as all of the best VP machines were either eliminated or excluded from earning ANY club points whatsoever.

I'm not familiar with the 4 Queens, and wouldn't presume to speculate any further. But it would be interesting to know if other players have suffered the same fate.
 
Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein

From: "Albert Pearson ehpee@rogers.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 
The problem is possibly that your play hasn't changed. If you haven't had a raise in 10 years I'd be surprised. The casinos are looking for a raise. I've noticed that some of my offers have been reduced over the past year. I'm raising my play in the hope that my offers will go back to their previous levels.
It seems to me that it is just normal price increases, the same as gas or anything else.  
 
A.P.

From: "Vegas777 vegas777@bell.net [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 2:31 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] 4 Queens

 
We have been going to 4 Queens for 10 years. Our latest offer doesn't offer any free rooms unless we buy 1 night first. This is the first time this has happened.
 
Our play has not changed.
 
Can't understand why they are treating loyal players like this. We have lots of offers from other casinos, so guess we won't be staying there anymore.
 
LR
 





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