Re: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

 

While I prepare and file my own returns electronically, not through an accountant, I'm relatively sure that the electronic "signature" procedure is probably similar. You need to provide a certain piece of information that only you would have. As I seem to recall, it is one specific line from your previous year's return; I believe it is AGI or modified AGI. You then swear on a stack of electronic bibles, or the legalese equivalent that it is you, and your spouse, if appropriate, who is making the electronic filing. Then you select a password, and it buzzes right through to the IRS site. They, I assume, check that pertinent piece of info, as well as the numbers presented on the return, and notify you, within a couple of days, that your return has been accepted.

If there is a problem with the information format, or something else that causes them to have a problem with your return, they can come back to you and tell you it was not accepted. I seem to recall that happening to me once, a number of years ago, but I was able to correct it and re-submit the return, but I can't say for certain if it was on paper or electronic. Since that time, however, it seems that the major tax prep programs have gotten much better at checking to make sure that the return will be accepted by the IRS, format and content-wise.  

And as for writing a check, that is so-2000-ish. Nowadays, they prefer to direct-debit your account, and you can even delay the debit until the very last day, automatically. If you are fortunate enough to be getting a refund, they credit your account VERY quickly, and there is no "the check is in the mail" sob story.

 
Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein

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> From: Barry Glazer
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>Since I haven't done an electronic return with my accountant (yet - but 2011 might work out when I get around to it), can anyone tell me how you sign the return? They actually used to return the forms if you didn't sign them, so at one time a signature was important. I'm not familiar with how "electronic signatures" work (one of the tech-stupid areas of my life). Quite honestly, I don't see why they WOULD care, as long as you sign the check if you owe them money :)
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[vpFREE] "Exotic Escapes" Plaza deal was a scam

 

Don't know if this has been mentioned but Plaza has apologized on it's facebook page over this mess. Seems the $300 free play was for Casino Royale, In other words worthless. The other goodies no so well represented either. Hate to day I told you so.

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[vpFREE] Re: Build a Wheel Red Rock

 

>  --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com,
>  "pumsparky" <dianalnagy@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone know if they removed or moved the Bulid A Wheels
> machines at Red Rock. 

The Build-a-Wheel games have been removed from the Red Rock, according to a slot attendant.

In their place, between the poker room and the Yard House, is Spin Fever, at least as of today.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/spin-fever/  

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[vpFREE] Re: W2G

 

OK, I answer with some hesitation because I really don't know personally ... but my accountant had me complete some kind of form so that he could file my return on paper -- I think it was necessary for some reason due to one or more of the following circumstances for 2010 -- we bought / sold a house and had the tax credit associated with that, we did some home improvements that qualified for tax credits (energy saving windows, etc.), and had a lot of donations (of stuff we couldn't bring with us due to lack of space), although I think the latter was NOT a reason that they couldn't file my return electronically. Or it might have been something else unusual on the 2010 return for us.

It clearly was the default / usual practice for the accountant to file returns electronically, but apparently there are exceptions even if you use an accountant who otherwise must use the electronic filing.

Since I haven't done an electronic return with my accountant (yet - but 2011 might work out when I get around to it), can anyone tell me how you sign the return? They actually used to return the forms if you didn't sign them, so at one time a signature was important. I'm not familiar with how "electronic signatures" work (one of the tech-stupid areas of my life). Quite honestly, I don't see why they WOULD care, as long as you sign the check if you owe them money :)

Thanks!

--BG
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> 1.4. Re: W2G
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> The no paper rule applies to preparers but not to
> individuals.  This is from the IRS site.
>
> "any tax return preparer who anticipates preparing and
> filing 11 or more Forms 1040, 1040A, 1040EZ and 1041 during
> a calendar year must use IRS e-file".
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[vpFREE] Why the W2-g problem?

 


For 14 years, I filed a Schedule C for being self-employed in Gaming
(archaically know as gambling). All the W2-g's I received had printed on one of
the back of one of the sheets that you only needed to send them in if you
had withholding. I never did so I sent none in. People would tell me all the
time that you had to send them in. This included a person who worked for
the IRS. The first three years I received a letter asking where my gambling
winnings were. I replied and heard no more. The rest of the years I received
nothing. Back before the IRS got tougher, many W2-g's did not get into the
system The President Casino in St. Louis was good for missing some. The
W2-g's should have the information still printed on their backs. Reading
things like this helps.

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[vpFREE] mss scratch cards

 

Was at MSS recently and the scratgh card are holding steady at an average of
$2.15/card.
For the first time my cards were checked for the correct date when I
redeemed them at the cage(for some time they have stated that they must be
redeemed within 24 hrs).
Never had that happen before. She wouldn't pay one because it had the wrong
date on it. The floor person had dated it wrong as the day before was my
first day of play so I know it wasn't me.
Be carefull out there.
JAS

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[vpFREE] Re: Aces & Eights at Circus Circus

 

I dont remember Aces and Eights ever being 800 coin for full pay. It has always been 400 coins which would pay $200 at 50 cent level. You must be mistaking it for another game.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "straub4" <straub@...> wrote:
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> Just began my first full day of my seven day Las Vegas vacation. With the massive full pay downgrade at the Palms, I made alternative plans for significant play near the strip by learning Aces & Eights as shown available on vpFREE2 at Circus Circus.
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> At the 50c level the machines were where they were listed. After playing for a while at the 50c level I noticed that the 4oK (if aces or eights) were only paying 200 at five coin. ($2.50 per hand). According to all the fullpay schedules 4oK (if aces or eights) is supposed to be paying $400 at 5 coin.
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> This is the first time I've played this game in a casino (only on software). The fullpay schedule is supposed to pay 99.781% without the sequential royal and 100.25% with the sequential royal (as is available at CC).
>
> By my calculations relying on some VP software, with the aces or 8 4oK downgraded to only $200 (instead of $400) the potential perfect play l/t payout is reduced to 98.295% (about a 1.50% reduction). Thus I assume with the sequential royal it too would be paying out at about 1.50% less or about 98.75% instead of 100.25%. The $200 payout (versus $400) was tHE case on all 8 machines in the banks near the pizza place as well as across from the buffet. I couldn't locate any A&8s machines near the deli as was listed on vpFREE2.
>
> I didn't have the time to check the ones listed at Slots-A-Fun.
>
> Any more exprerienced CC players notice the $200 versus $400 payout recently? Also assuming I have the $200 aces or eight 4oK correct is the revised EV I calculated correct (assuming rounding to two decimal places beyond one full percentage)?
>
> I guess I'll revert to plan B and C for the rest of my vacation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> ST
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[vpFREE] Re: Submitting jackpot photos

 

Can you text the photos to your email address, then download to your
computer, upload to photobucket or other site?

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[vpFREE] Re: Another neat hand

 

No, the original deal included only one deuce.

Karen

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in
practice, there is.
Yogi Berra

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[vpFREE] Re: Another neat hand

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, krallison416@... wrote:
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> What are the odds on this? Playing 10-play deuces I was dealt three of a
> kind. Hit NINE quads.
>
> Karen
>
> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in
> practice, there is.
> Yogi Berra
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Quad deuces, I hope!

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RE: [vpFREE] W2G

 



-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Luke Fuller
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:26 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] W2G

Disclaimer: The following are facts - not opinion.

Scot,

Of course, you can file on paper! How could someone file electronically,
if they do not own a computer or don't have Internet access?

---Thanks for everyone's answers. But of course, your question is easily
answered. You would visit your IRS to file (there are huge lines there daily
to do just that!) or a library or hire a tax person to do them or find a
friend with a computer, etc.

You misunderstood your CPA. *Public accountants* may only file returns
electronically, if they file more than ten tax returns per year. This does
not mean that the rest of the taxpayers must e-file.

---That is what I'm sure she is referring to and I misunderstood.

Thanks again to all.

Scot

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Re: [vpFREE] W2G

 

Disclaimer: The following are facts - not opinion.

Scot,

Of course, you can file on paper! How could someone file electronically,
if they do not own a computer or don't have Internet access?

You misunderstood your CPA. *Public accountants* may only file returns
electronically, if they file more than ten tax returns per year. This does
not mean that the rest of the taxpayers must e-file.

Perhaps, this will help you:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040.pdf

It states right on the first page: "If you file a paper return, you may be
mailing it to a different address this year."

Luke

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Scot Krause <krauseinvegas@cox.net> wrote:

> ---I was told by a CPA that as of this year, 2011, you are no longer able
> to file paper returns (with a few exceptions.) Can anyone confirm that?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Scot

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

 

<<I wanted to know if a person can do a handwritten paper return, now or in
the future, without using software. >>

Yes. The requirement to e-file is for professional tax preparers, not
individuals preparing their own return.

Cogno

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: W2G

 

On 3/26/2012 4:55 PM, Scot Krause wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of
> MHS
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 1:52 PM
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: W2G
>
> Let me clarify that for you. TurboTax has different printing models, for
> personal use and for submitting to the IRS. I'm printing out at least
> 20 pages, probably closer to 30.
>
> ---Ok, but that is quite different from what my original question was.
> Perhaps I was misunderstand. I wanted to know if a person can do a
> handwritten paper return, now or in the future, without using software.
>
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There is no prohibition on that. I have two friends who still write out
their returns in longhand.
(No, they are not complete Luddites. Just traditionalists.)

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[vpFREE] Re: What Would It Take???

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Cohen <brucedcohen2002@...> wrote:
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> I like it.
>  
> It would be fun to use it on Paymar's or other's VP software, too.
>
> --- On Fri, 3/23/12, Frank <frank@...> wrote:
>
>

Sounds like a lot of paperwork.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Aces & Eights at Circus Circus

 

straub4 wrote:

>For some strange reason, on the other hand, the Aces or Eights 4ofK are shown as dollars paid and not as coins paid.

This is a remant of when that meter used to progress.

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