[vpFREE] Re: double bonus deuces wild

 

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@...> wrote:
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> Stu wrote:
> I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a
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> > single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when
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> > this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce.
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> piece of advice is to not play this game at the Rio. They are very unlikely to
> have good pay schedules. Next door at the Gold Coast they have the 99.8%
> version of this game from 50�
> to $2 single line. (Possibly for quarters as well --- I haven't looked for that.)
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> edition of Wolf Video Poker) has a good strategy creation component. The
> problem is drawing to a single deuce gives you 178K possible draws and drawing
> to deuce ace gives you 16K draws. The strategy depends on which ones of those
> you are excluding from your calculations. If you are able to exclude a
> particular subset of hands because you know penalty card situations, the
> "base play" may well change.
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> gotten a couple of posts giving penalty card considerations for a game with a
> different pay schedule than the game you are playing. Penalty card
> considerations are really pay schedule specific. The penalty cards (e.g. a
> deuce, ace, honor card suited with the ace, and another suited card suited with
> the ace) may or may not be the same when the pay schedule changes. In this case, the penalty card rules given to you doesn't stay the same with the different pay schedule. In the 99.8% game, holding 2 Ah Kh 7h 4c you
> just hold the deuce. In the 98.6% game you hold deuce ace king.
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[vpFREE] Foxwoods/Mohegan/mgm

 

Im heading to Foxwoods next week wondering if anyone has any experience with good video poker machine there or at Mohegan Sun. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you.

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[vpFREE] Re: Royal Flusher Vegas Revenge Live - updated

 

Some cool craps stuff, after the Royal.

Visited the Neon Boneyard, amazing food at Le Thai downtown, and got a
large number of quads, all in one sitting.

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http://www.royalflushervegas.com/2012/05/boneyard-and-cavalcade-of-quads-ii-part.html

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RE: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild

 



Stu wrote:
I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a

> single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when

> there's nothing better? My old copy of frugal video poker tells me to do

> this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce.

My first
piece of advice is to not play this game at the Rio. They are very unlikely to
have good pay schedules. Next door at the Gold Coast they have the 99.8%
version of this game from 50¢
to $2 single line. (Possibly for quarters as well --- I haven't looked for that.)

FVP (early
edition of Wolf Video Poker) has a good strategy creation component. The
problem is drawing to a single deuce gives you 178K possible draws and drawing
to deuce ace gives you 16K draws. The strategy depends on which ones of those
you are excluding from your calculations. If you are able to exclude a
particular subset of hands because you know penalty card situations, the
"base play" may well change.

You've
gotten a couple of posts giving penalty card considerations for a game with a
different pay schedule than the game you are playing. Penalty card
considerations are really pay schedule specific. The penalty cards (e.g. a
deuce, ace, honor card suited with the ace, and another suited card suited with
the ace) may or may not be the same when the pay schedule changes. In this case, the penalty card rules given to you doesn't stay the same with the different pay schedule. In the 99.8% game, holding 2 Ah Kh 7h 4c you
just hold the deuce. In the 98.6% game you hold deuce ace king.

Bob



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[vpFREE] Re: XVP: Diamond Thief

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ma18ks" <89109.nv@...> wrote:

> On my exploratory session, I started with one credit, but later >bumped to full (three) credits to end the experiment....
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Most Diamond Thiefs were two coiners, but there were some three coiners around. Some hustlers put down a play on the three coiners that I didn't care much for.

This situation sometimes developes when you are spinning a play off. You are down to just one section of the large valise needing diamonds. In the process of trying to fill it up, you wind up filling up the entire small valise, except for the section that corresponds to the section of the large valise you are trying to fill up.

At that point, some hustlers, when they get the last section down to one diamond to go, will go to betting three coins. This is their reasoning:

1. Anytime a diamond symbol lands in another section while I'm betting three coins it's going to put double coins (6 coins) in the bank, defraying my cost.

2. When I catch the diamond symbol in the section where I need one diamond to complete the play, it's going to put the extra two diamonds in the small valise, meaning, when the play is over and the small valise becomes the large valise, I can play through another cycle because there won't be a blue hole. It will be only 4 to go to complete another play.

The problem with reason #1. I don't like this reasoning at all. Sure, it's defraying the cost. But even though you are putting double coins in the bank, you are still getting dropped. Which means you are paying an up front cost to create another play.

The problem with reason #2. The small valise is going to be completely empty on the next play, which means there aren't going to be any coins in the bank. And there won't be very many coins in the bank when you complete this play....unless you experience some heavy negative variance and it takes you way to many spins to complete the play....which means you got dropped for way to much money.

A more refined strategy:

A 4 hole in the large valise, but little or no diamonds in the small valise (which means there are no coins in the bank)is not a good play.

A 4 hole in the large valise, and the small valise is mostly full of diamonds, is a good play. The number of coins in the bank and the number of diamonds in the small valise correlate....because every time you put a diamond in the small valise it puts a coin in the bank. If there are 40 diamonds in the small valise then there will be 40 coins or more in the bank (it could be higher than 40 because of double coins going in). In the process of filling this 4 hole up you are going to run the coin meter way high. Combine that with the bonus you get for completing the play and it's a very advantageous situation.

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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 4 MAY 2012

 

LVA Question of the Day - 4 MAY 2012

Q: Has there ever been a topless casino in Vegas?

Read the answer here:

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RE: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild

 

Sorry. fivespot is absolutely correct! Used to play this game in
multi-strike format but not for a couple of years since my home casino
trashed the paytables.

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
fivespot
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 3:15 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild

er, i'm pretty sure you should never hold 2A from 2AHs playing DBDW.
with a flush penalty, hold just the deuce; otherwise, hold the wild
RF3.

cheers,

five

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:50 PM, pyiddy <pyiddy@att.net
<mailto:pyiddy%40att.net> > wrote:
> I have played the full pay version of this game (25-12 for RF and SF) and
2A
> is right. Also 2A is better than 2AHs (H means honor from bridge which is
T
> or higher.)
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> Subject: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild
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> I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a
> single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when
> there's nothing better? My old copy of frugal video poker tells me to do
> this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce.
> Thanks for any advice!
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[vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 3 MAY 2012

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@...> wrote:
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> Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 3 MAY 2012

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Re: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild

 

er, i'm pretty sure you should never hold 2A from 2AHs playing DBDW.
with a flush penalty, hold just the deuce; otherwise, hold the wild
RF3.

cheers,

five

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:50 PM, pyiddy <pyiddy@att.net> wrote:
> I have played the full pay version of this game (25-12 for RF and SF) and 2A
> is right. Also 2A is better than 2AHs (H means honor from bridge which is T
> or higher.)
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> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> RandomStu
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:30 PM
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vpFREE] double bonus deuces wild
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> I'm currently playing double bonus deuces wild at Rio Vegas. When dealt a
> single deuce, is it correct to hold a single ace with it and draw 3, when
> there's nothing better? My old copy of frugal video poker tells me to do
> this, but I think I've seen other strategies that say draw 4 to the deuce.
> Thanks for any advice!
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