[vpFREE] XVP: Ramsey's restaurant

 

I've made "panna" cotta (without bamboo).

Maybe that's what Misscraps meant.

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RE: [vpFREE] Gordon Ramsey Steakhouse Paris

 

I've eaten here a half dozen times so I'll throw in my 2 cents….

The tunnel is supposed to represent the Chunnel to explain why a British restaurant (there is a giant British flag on the ceiling) is in the Paris Casino. I have to say I don't see any of the old steakhouse décor in the place.

Their wine list is presented on an IPAD which I found pretty cool. I assume that means they will keep the wine list absolutely current with selection and vintage.

I have found the food to be very inconsistent. My first trip the sliders were terrific. The next time I tried them they were very very bland. Fingerling potatoes have been great and boring. I usually order the Kobe Rib Cap which has been consistently awesome. I agree the Wellington was only OK (mine was slightly over cooked) and the sticky toffee is awesome.

After my first trip to Gordon Ramsey I was so impressed with the food. Ever since, I've been a lot less impressed. The inconsistency in food preparation to go along with the high prices so far has not been a problem with the noted long wait to get a reservation. But they better get their act together before their "new kid on the block" status wears out. As a local I get a $75 food coupon twice a month from CET and it is honored at both Gordon Ramsey Steak and Bobby Flay's Mesa Grill so I usually alternate between the two. I must say Mesa Grill kills Gordon Ramsey with their consistency.

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Misscraps
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:52 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com; harrahscasinos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Gordon Ramsey Steakhouse Paris

Had a lovely meal there last night. Place is booked up for days in advance so be sure to phone ahead as much as possible. There is a bar that serves food no reservation required, but go early and line up for that too. At 5 pm there was a big line for all so that was a little annoying but fortunately moved fast (we had reservation). Service was excellent with friendly waiter providing extra information and he also brings a steak rack round to look at cuts of meat (though that is sort of silky because it was too dark to really see cuts...but his explanation of cuts was good).

I'd heard that American Kobe filet was the cut to get ($75) but our friend who was treating us wanted to do the Tasting menu ($135) with beef Wellington, and all the table had to get it. So we went with that which is a good choice. Next time we will try Kobe. Two of us added on the wine accompaniment for tasters menu (an extra $65 per person).

The decor was pretty much the same as when it was the Paris Steakhouse, with possibly new furniture but I couldn't see much difference there, plus a short tunnel you walk through and new wine rack at the door.

The worst thing was LOUD contemporary music that never stopped. A lot of people are complaining about it but it is still there, and may never go away (like Raos where overly loud music makes us want earplugs despite it being great music from the 40s and 50s).

The first course was Scottish egg -- a small quail egg over cabbage, not great if you ask me, but my husband enjoyed. They also brought three types of rolls, one lemony, one cheesy, one mushroom truffle without much truffle taste. First bite of the mushroom roll was great but as it cooled it seemed bland. I had soda and they never came to refill it or ask if I wanted more, but filled water glasses endlessly.

Wine pairing was excellent with delicious wines that went very well with each course. And a couple were not the usual.

2nd course was delicious tomato plate with basil crystals that were yummy and some goat cheese, and parmesan custard -- excellent but a little small. Next came asparagus soup, delicious and unusual, with crab and salmon caviar (salmon eggs) etc, and each bite had a different taste depending on if you got bits of crab or bits of salmon etc.

4th course was beef Wellington. Our friend loved it and said it was best Wellington ever. I liked it but it was more of an 'it's okay', prosciutto is layered into crust with beef and mushrooms, and wine Demi glacé sauce over it, with some tiny root veggies (mostly carrot) and Good potato purée –- I thought where sauce hit crust it turned soggy, and mine didn't have much if any prosciutto. Meanwhile my husband had a lot of prosciutto and he doesn't like spicy food so it was too flavorful for him. Next time the Kobe beef....

Desert course was melon panda cotta with cantaloupe panda cotta and watermelon sorbet.. It was tasty but perhaps too much sorbet which overwhelmed more subtle panda cotta.

We also bought an extra desert to share, the famous sticky toffee with brown butter ice cream -- excellent, one of bet deserts any of us have ever had. Sweet as hell but just on the other side of sickenly sweet, so we loved it.

Overall very good dinner and we enjoyed tasting all the courses and the wines were really excellent.

This makes a good choice if you have a 7* member dinner, and definitely was an improvement over previous steakhouse at Paris. Only problem for tourists is that reservations in advance are a must due to busyiness.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: are the Santa Fe Station 100%+ slant tops on the level?

 



--- On Fri, 9/21/12, Tom Robertson <007@embarqmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom Robertson <007@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: are the Santa Fe Station 100%+ slant tops on the level?
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 21, 2012, 1:07 AM

 

Barf Bag <barf_bag_007@yahoo.com> wrote:

> He's rightfully grouchy because instead of other people just addressing his concern, they have to start throwing in the digs.

I don't know how anyone would address his concern. No one can prove that the machines aren't gaffed and his report of believing that some players, collectively, went a few cycles without hitting a royal doesn't prove they are. His claim of being able to play 3000 hands an hour, casually, on one single line machine destroys the credibility of his whole story.

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Yes, I stand corrected. I should have typed " give their opinion of his concern without tossing in uneccessary digs".

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[vpFREE] Re: are the Santa Fe Station 100%+ slant tops on the level?

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
> >
> Note to vpFree Administrator: You need to add "RG" to the vpFree Acronyms Section. REVERSE GAFF!
>
>
Hey, Bob. The reverse gaff has been a well kept secret until now. Over the years we've all read many posts where a player is getting beat, therefore, the game must be gaffed in favor of the house. But to date we have not had the pleasure of reading a post where a player hit back to back to back quads, therefore, the game must be gaffed in favor of the player.

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Re: [vpFREE] Gordon Ramsey Steakhouse Paris

Wan't the panda cotta also a little gamey? Probably because all the bamboo imparts itself into the flavour. :-P

On 21 Sep 2012, at 12:51, Misscraps wrote:

> Had a lovely meal there last night. Place is booked up for days in advance so be sure to phone ahead as much as possible. There is a bar that serves food no reservation required, but go early and line up for that too. At 5 pm there was a big line for all so that was a little annoying but fortunately moved fast (we had reservation). Service was excellent with friendly waiter providing extra information and he also brings a steak rack round to look at cuts of meat (though that is sort of silky because it was too dark to really see cuts...but his explanation of cuts was good).
>
> I'd heard that American Kobe filet was the cut to get ($75) but our friend who was treating us wanted to do the Tasting menu ($135) with beef Wellington, and all the table had to get it. So we went with that which is a good choice. Next time we will try Kobe. Two of us added on the wine accompaniment for tasters menu (an extra $65 per person).
>
> The decor was pretty much the same as when it was the Paris Steakhouse, with possibly new furniture but I couldn't see much difference there, plus a short tunnel you walk through and new wine rack at the door.
>
> The worst thing was LOUD contemporary music that never stopped. A lot of people are complaining about it but it is still there, and may never go away (like Raos where overly loud music makes us want earplugs despite it being great music from the 40s and 50s).
>
> The first course was Scottish egg -- a small quail egg over cabbage, not great if you ask me, but my husband enjoyed. They also brought three types of rolls, one lemony, one cheesy, one mushroom truffle without much truffle taste. First bite of the mushroom roll was great but as it cooled it seemed bland. I had soda and they never came to refill it or ask if I wanted more, but filled water glasses endlessly.
>
> Wine pairing was excellent with delicious wines that went very well with each course. And a couple were not the usual.
>
> 2nd course was delicious tomato plate with basil crystals that were yummy and some goat cheese, and parmesan custard -- excellent but a little small. Next came asparagus soup, delicious and unusual, with crab and salmon caviar (salmon eggs) etc, and each bite had a different taste depending on if you got bits of crab or bits of salmon etc.
>
> 4th course was beef Wellington. Our friend loved it and said it was best Wellington ever. I liked it but it was more of an 'it's okay', prosciutto is layered into crust with beef and mushrooms, and wine Demi glacé sauce over it, with some tiny root veggies (mostly carrot) and Good potato purée –- I thought where sauce hit crust it turned soggy, and mine didn't have much if any prosciutto. Meanwhile my husband had a lot of prosciutto and he doesn't like spicy food so it was too flavorful for him. Next time the Kobe beef....
>
> Desert course was melon panda cotta with cantaloupe panda cotta and watermelon sorbet.. It was tasty but perhaps too much sorbet which overwhelmed more subtle panda cotta.
>
> We also bought an extra desert to share, the famous sticky toffee with brown butter ice cream -- excellent, one of bet deserts any of us have ever had. Sweet as hell but just on the other side of sickenly sweet, so we loved it.
>
> Overall very good dinner and we enjoyed tasting all the courses and the wines were really excellent.
>
> This makes a good choice if you have a 7* member dinner, and definitely was an improvement over previous steakhouse at Paris. Only problem for tourists is that reservations in advance are a must due to busyiness.
>
>



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[vpFREE] Re: are the Santa Fe Station 100%+ slant tops on the level?

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
>
> What's a 2 cycle royal draught? It's nothing. Try 6. That's my record. But the opposite of it is 3 royals in less than four hours of play. It must have been a reverse gaff.
>
> How about a quad draught? My record is 10 cycles. What's yours? Have you ever hit back to back quads? I have many times. What would you call that, a reverse gaff?
>
> I deal with all kinds of frequencies, not just royal frequencies. There is one little game I play where the frequency is 344 to take off a mini meter. My record is 7.5 cycles to hit the damn thing. But the opposite is I've taken it off 4 times on the first game. I just love it when those reverse gaffs happen.
>
> Another little game I play I have to get into the bonus round to take a mini meter off. My chances are 1 in 7 in the bonus round. About 1500 plays in five years and my record is 48 straight misses. Of course, the opposite is I've also hit it 3 times in a row. Don't you just love those reverse gaffs?
>
> Now for 3000 hph. Not even close to possible on the single line machines you play at Santa Fe. But if I had some Amarillo Slim or Titanic Thompson in me I could easily win a bet that I can do it. I'd probably get it done in about 40 minutes which means I would probably be standing there laughing at you while you watch me do it.
>
> There is a machine out there made by Summit Gaming called a MegaPlex. It's a multi-game machine with poker, keno and line games. There are no hold buttons for video poker. All you have is a deal/draw button and the game is autohold. On super turbo speed it's like a flash. You just keep tapping that deal/draw button and you can do about 100 hands per minute. However, the autohold is only about 90% accurate. It steers you away from royals, joker royals, and straight flushes. But if I could get up a decent enough bet....
>
> Now for the worst royal draught horror story I've ever heard-told to me by Doug Reul. When quarter Draw Till U Win (103.2%) showed up at O'Sheas he went 19 cycles and $12,000 stuck before he hit his first royal. The other players were hitting royals right along and his worst nightmare was they were gonna pull the game before he got back in the black. It took him a whole week to get back in the black (royal frequency is 9700). So it looks like they gaffed him and then they reverse gaffed him.
>

Note to vpFree Administrator: You need to add "RG" to the vpFree Acronyms Section. REVERSE GAFF!

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[vpFREE] Re: are the Santa Fe Station 100%+ slant tops on the level?

 

What's a 2 cycle royal draught? It's nothing. Try 6. That's my record. But the opposite of it is 3 royals in less than four hours of play. It must have been a reverse gaff.

How about a quad draught? My record is 10 cycles. What's yours? Have you ever hit back to back quads? I have many times. What would you call that, a reverse gaff?

I deal with all kinds of frequencies, not just royal frequencies. There is one little game I play where the frequency is 344 to take off a mini meter. My record is 7.5 cycles to hit the damn thing. But the opposite is I've taken it off 4 times on the first game. I just love it when those reverse gaffs happen.

Another little game I play I have to get into the bonus round to take a mini meter off. My chances are 1 in 7 in the bonus round. About 1500 plays in five years and my record is 48 straight misses. Of course, the opposite is I've also hit it 3 times in a row. Don't you just love those reverse gaffs?

Now for 3000 hph. Not even close to possible on the single line machines you play at Santa Fe. But if I had some Amarillo Slim or Titanic Thompson in me I could easily win a bet that I can do it. I'd probably get it done in about 40 minutes which means I would probably be standing there laughing at you while you watch me do it.

There is a machine out there made by Summit Gaming called a MegaPlex. It's a multi-game machine with poker, keno and line games. There are no hold buttons for video poker. All you have is a deal/draw button and the game is autohold. On super turbo speed it's like a flash. You just keep tapping that deal/draw button and you can do about 100 hands per minute. However, the autohold is only about 90% accurate. It steers you away from royals, joker royals, and straight flushes. But if I could get up a decent enough bet....

Now for the worst royal draught horror story I've ever heard-told to me by Doug Reul. When quarter Draw Till U Win (103.2%) showed up at O'Sheas he went 19 cycles and $12,000 stuck before he hit his first royal. The other players were hitting royals right along and his worst nightmare was they were gonna pull the game before he got back in the black. It took him a whole week to get back in the black (royal frequency is 9700). So it looks like they gaffed him and then they reverse gaffed him.

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[vpFREE] Credits Left in Machine and Abadoned Property Revisited

 

Gambling with an Edge: A different interpretation of credits left in a machine and abandoned property. On the basis of an earlier broadcast, I don't believe this attorney specializes in gambling law. The attorney is interpreting the law in Nevada although he also relies on other state cases.

I have learned not to summarize. Please listen to the broadcast if you are interested.

Gambling with an Edge Sept 20,2012 broadcast http://www.bobdancer.com/radio.cfm

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Re: [vpFREE] Gordon Ramsey Steakhouse Paris

 

And you didn't run into Gordon?
I'd feel cheated dining there without fending off at least one choice insult.
("Francois -- please escort these ladies back to plastic surgery.")

TC

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On Sep 21, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Misscraps <misscraps@aol.com> wrote:

> Had a lovely meal there last night. Place is booked up for days in advance so be sure to phone ahead as much as possible. There is a bar that serves food no reservation required, but go early and line up for that too. At 5 pm there was a big line for all so that was a little annoying but fortunately moved fast (we had reservation). Service was excellent with friendly waiter providing extra information and he also brings a steak rack round to look at cuts of meat (though that is sort of silky because it was too dark to really see cuts...but his explanation of cuts was good).
>
> I'd heard that American Kobe filet was the cut to get ($75) but our friend who was treating us wanted to do the Tasting menu ($135) with beef Wellington, and all the table had to get it. So we went with that which is a good choice. Next time we will try Kobe. Two of us added on the wine accompaniment for tasters menu (an extra $65 per person).
>
> The decor was pretty much the same as when it was the Paris Steakhouse, with possibly new furniture but I couldn't see much difference there, plus a short tunnel you walk through and new wine rack at the door.
>
> The worst thing was LOUD contemporary music that never stopped. A lot of people are complaining about it but it is still there, and may never go away (like Raos where overly loud music makes us want earplugs despite it being great music from the 40s and 50s).
>
> The first course was Scottish egg -- a small quail egg over cabbage, not great if you ask me, but my husband enjoyed. They also brought three types of rolls, one lemony, one cheesy, one mushroom truffle without much truffle taste. First bite of the mushroom roll was great but as it cooled it seemed bland. I had soda and they never came to refill it or ask if I wanted more, but filled water glasses endlessly.
>
> Wine pairing was excellent with delicious wines that went very well with each course. And a couple were not the usual.
>
> 2nd course was delicious tomato plate with basil crystals that were yummy and some goat cheese, and parmesan custard -- excellent but a little small. Next came asparagus soup, delicious and unusual, with crab and salmon caviar (salmon eggs) etc, and each bite had a different taste depending on if you got bits of crab or bits of salmon etc.
>
> 4th course was beef Wellington. Our friend loved it and said it was best Wellington ever. I liked it but it was more of an 'it's okay', prosciutto is layered into crust with beef and mushrooms, and wine Demi glacé sauce over it, with some tiny root veggies (mostly carrot) and Good potato purée –- I thought where sauce hit crust it turned soggy, and mine didn't have much if any prosciutto. Meanwhile my husband had a lot of prosciutto and he doesn't like spicy food so it was too flavorful for him. Next time the Kobe beef....
>
> Desert course was melon panda cotta with cantaloupe panda cotta and watermelon sorbet.. It was tasty but perhaps too much sorbet which overwhelmed more subtle panda cotta.
>
> We also bought an extra desert to share, the famous sticky toffee with brown butter ice cream -- excellent, one of bet deserts any of us have ever had. Sweet as hell but just on the other side of sickenly sweet, so we loved it.
>
> Overall very good dinner and we enjoyed tasting all the courses and the wines were really excellent.
>
> This makes a good choice if you have a 7* member dinner, and definitely was an improvement over previous steakhouse at Paris. Only problem for tourists is that reservations in advance are a must due to busyiness.
>
>

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[vpFREE] Gordon Ramsey Steakhouse Paris

 

Had a lovely meal there last night. Place is booked up for days in advance so be sure to phone ahead as much as possible. There is a bar that serves food no reservation required, but go early and line up for that too. At 5 pm there was a big line for all so that was a little annoying but fortunately moved fast (we had reservation). Service was excellent with friendly waiter providing extra information and he also brings a steak rack round to look at cuts of meat (though that is sort of silky because it was too dark to really see cuts...but his explanation of cuts was good).

I'd heard that American Kobe filet was the cut to get ($75) but our friend who was treating us wanted to do the Tasting menu ($135) with beef Wellington, and all the table had to get it. So we went with that which is a good choice. Next time we will try Kobe. Two of us added on the wine accompaniment for tasters menu (an extra $65 per person).

The decor was pretty much the same as when it was the Paris Steakhouse, with possibly new furniture but I couldn't see much difference there, plus a short tunnel you walk through and new wine rack at the door.

The worst thing was LOUD contemporary music that never stopped. A lot of people are complaining about it but it is still there, and may never go away (like Raos where overly loud music makes us want earplugs despite it being great music from the 40s and 50s).

The first course was Scottish egg -- a small quail egg over cabbage, not great if you ask me, but my husband enjoyed. They also brought three types of rolls, one lemony, one cheesy, one mushroom truffle without much truffle taste. First bite of the mushroom roll was great but as it cooled it seemed bland. I had soda and they never came to refill it or ask if I wanted more, but filled water glasses endlessly.

Wine pairing was excellent with delicious wines that went very well with each course. And a couple were not the usual.

2nd course was delicious tomato plate with basil crystals that were yummy and some goat cheese, and parmesan custard -- excellent but a little small. Next came asparagus soup, delicious and unusual, with crab and salmon caviar (salmon eggs) etc, and each bite had a different taste depending on if you got bits of crab or bits of salmon etc.

4th course was beef Wellington. Our friend loved it and said it was best Wellington ever. I liked it but it was more of an 'it's okay', prosciutto is layered into crust with beef and mushrooms, and wine Demi glacé sauce over it, with some tiny root veggies (mostly carrot) and Good potato purée –- I thought where sauce hit crust it turned soggy, and mine didn't have much if any prosciutto. Meanwhile my husband had a lot of prosciutto and he doesn't like spicy food so it was too flavorful for him. Next time the Kobe beef....

Desert course was melon panda cotta with cantaloupe panda cotta and watermelon sorbet.. It was tasty but perhaps too much sorbet which overwhelmed more subtle panda cotta.

We also bought an extra desert to share, the famous sticky toffee with brown butter ice cream -- excellent, one of bet deserts any of us have ever had. Sweet as hell but just on the other side of sickenly sweet, so we loved it.

Overall very good dinner and we enjoyed tasting all the courses and the wines were really excellent.

This makes a good choice if you have a 7* member dinner, and definitely was an improvement over previous steakhouse at Paris. Only problem for tourists is that reservations in advance are a must due to busyiness.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: are the Santa Fe Station 100%+ slant tops on the level?

 

"Play a lot of hands, record the results, and analyze the data".

No one would do that, and if they did no one would believe the results if they didn't match up with popular beliefs. ADVANTAGE: CASINOS.

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The only way to tell is the machines are playing fairly is to play a lot of hands, record the results carefully and analyze the data.

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[vpFREE] Re: are the Santa Fe Station 100%+ slant tops on the level?

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <007@...> wrote:
>
> Barf Bag <barf_bag_007@...> wrote:
>
> > He's rightfully grouchy because instead of other people just addressing his concern, they have to start throwing in the digs.
>
> I don't know how anyone would address his concern. No one can prove that the machines aren't gaffed and his report of believing that some players, collectively, went a few cycles without hitting a royal doesn't prove they are. His claim of being able to play 3000 hands an hour, casually, on one single line machine destroys the credibility of his whole story.
>

This is the same story we see periodically. Someone posts that a machine or machines are set to pay off less than the paytable would indicate. They provide some minimal, anecodotal statements to try and support their argument and get mad when anyone challenges their statement.

Here's what vp_nbi has stated so far:

1) When playing casually I crank out about 3k hands per hour. When
focused even more. And over most of the time in question there was
at least one other player matching or exceeding my speed.

3000 hands an hour on a single line machine? If the machine is at its fastest setting and you just hit deal/draw deal/draw for an hour, I don't think you could get 3000 hands in. And he says this is casual play, he could play faster and at least one other player plays as fast. I don't believe that. Maybe on a 5 play machine.

2) He went 2 cycles without a royal. That happens all the time. Take a look at progressives. With a .25% meter, if the royal is at $1250, you have gone 80,000 hands without a royal. $1250 progressives happen a lot.

3) Nobody else is hitting royals either. How do you know that? All you are doing is taking what people say.

The only way to tell is the machines are playing fairly is to play a lot of hands, record the results carefully and analyze the data.

If 3 people playing accurately record their results and each goes 200,000 hands without a royal, you may have found unfair machines.
One person who claims to have played 80,000 hands with no royal (and also claims to play ove 3000 hands per hour) is not an indication of anything except bad data collection.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Coast Properties and their multipliers

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Don the Dentist <dds6@cox.net> wrote:
> I know the Gold Coast has a 10,000 point max and I was told by the
> boothlings at Suncoast there was no maximum.

There's no maximum at the Suncoast until you get 86ed.

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[vpFREE] Re: are the Santa Fe Station 100%+ slant tops on the level?

 

Well said.
Distant memories of a VP statistic that only 1 out of 7 sessions have positive results. The frequency of positive sessions is now even less as average E.V. of machine's has gone down :-(

It's nice to have a long winning streak but remember results tend toward the mean "in the long run." :-)

> sorry for your streak, but it is nice to read a post in which the player didnt have a "winning trip". It seems every trip report tells od royals hit before breakfast, after lunch, at the bar and then on the way to the front desk checking oyt.
>
>

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