[vpFREE] Re: Super Draw 6

 

considering also the bonus for six-card straights, flushes and the extra card to get high pairs, trips and even quads on the draw, I like the hold of AKQ suited over JJ

Seems not many here like to use their intuition on new games:
they prefer to wait for a game to catch on and someone to churn out a strategy sheet.
and to make sure it returns 99% or more.

playing it now on videopoker dot com
with my 1500 hours or so of experience on other games to use as a basis for my intuition.

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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer Column - 6 SEP 2016

 

Uh, well thanks for clearing THAT up.


---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote :

BBT wrote: "I understood Bob, but have no idea what either one of you are talking about."

Wu Wei is like muscle memory. Like when you first try to ride a bicycle, you're learning, you're trying to keep your balance, you're intensely concentrating, you have some successes and some failures. But eventually there comes a point, you can either ride a bicycle or you can not, if you can ride a bicycle it becomes an extention of your body, you no longer have to think about how to ride a bicycle, you just do. There is definitely Wu Wei in video games. Sometimes someone asks me if such and such a hand beats such and such a hand and I have to think about it, because that's not how I play video poker, it's just become Wu Wei. Sometimes someone asks me about my last hand and I have to ask, what was it? I just did it, it was done, I either got some credits or didn't, and it's on to the next hand. I imagine that is what Dancer is talking about. Royals I remember, but it's some 40,000 hands or so between them, that's mostly a lot of empty blacktop, wide open rangeland miles to be bicycled through. And of course on the 50 and 100 plays it's the dealt hands I remember, and miss during the droughts. Wu Wei is not for everyone, fortunately there are other options. How about drunken monkey Kung Fu video poker?






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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer Column - 6 SEP 2016

 

BBT wrote: "I understood Bob, but have no idea what either one of you are talking about."

Wu Wei is like muscle memory. Like when you first try to ride a bicycle, you're learning, you're trying to keep your balance, you're intensely concentrating, you have some successes and some failures. But eventually there comes a point, you can either ride a bicycle or you can not, if you can ride a bicycle it becomes an extention of your body, you no longer have to think about how to ride a bicycle, you just do. There is definitely Wu Wei in video games. Sometimes someone asks me if such and such a hand beats such and such a hand and I have to think about it, because that's not how I play video poker, it's just become Wu Wei. Sometimes someone asks me about my last hand and I have to ask, what was it? I just did it, it was done, I either got some credits or didn't, and it's on to the next hand. I imagine that is what Dancer is talking about. Royals I remember, but it's some 40,000 hands or so between them, that's mostly a lot of empty blacktop, wide open rangeland miles to be bicycled through. And of course on the 50 and 100 plays it's the dealt hands I remember, and miss during the droughts. Wu Wei is not for everyone, fortunately there are other options. How about drunken monkey Kung Fu video poker?




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[vpFREE] Re: A Fun Game

 

The Super Draw 6 Card poker machine is at Gold Dust West in Reno. It's 3
play with 5 cent, 10 cent, 25 cent, 50 cent and $1.00. At 25 cent to $1.00
the best games are 8/6 Deluxe Bonus Poker (98.81%) and 9/5 Double Double
Bonus (98.46). The more gentle 7/5 Bonus Poker has a payback of 98.17%.

I don't know about strategy changes, but things to consider include the
fact that when holding 3 to a royal the royal will come up about once in 360
draws as opposed to once in 1100 on a regular machine. So, remembering that
4 of a kind plus a pair pays 2000 and a 6 card royal (9-A) pays 8000 on
Bonus Deluxe, do you hold 2 jacks or 3 to a royal?

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer Column - 6 SEP 2016

 

Bob wrote: "In video poker, I'm not doing that. I'm picking the combination with the highest EV."

OK. But the EV is determined by the underlying principles of draw poker and I still say if you're drawing, you're trying to get something you don't now have, whereas if you stand pat, you've got something. I think you explained it when you explained the EV, you said you can get a straight flush, flush, straight, trips or pairs by drawing to a partial straight flush. Maybe the response is why not draw to the royal instead, but the royal is harder to get, expressed in EV. It's the same reason football teams sometimes go (try) for the field goal instead of the touchdown.

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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer Column - 6 SEP 2016

 

Dunbar wrote: "I think you're thinking of Yoda's quote in The Empire Strikes Back: "No, try not! Do or do not. There is no try." "

I think it's originally from Taoism:

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer Column - 6 SEP 2016

 

noti wrote: You might not succeed, which is why they call it gambling, but you are at least trying. In the end, to quote the old TV series Kung Fu, there is no try, only do or do not, but when you draw, you are trying

I disagree --- although it might just be semantics.

To me "trying to get xxx" means to attempt to get something specific.

In video poker, I'm not doing that. I'm picking the combination with the highest EV. If you want to call it "trying to do the best I can from that starting position according to the strategy I think is appropriate," okay. I'll agree with that. In that sense, I'm trying. But I don't think most people talk that way or mean that when they use the phrase.

Using your Kung Fu quote, I am doing. I am not trying. Although I don't think most people talk that way either. I did enjoy that TV series and I thank you for the flash back. And we did pull Harry out of the woodwork for a comment, and that's pretty cool too.

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