Re: [vpFREE] $1000 Hand Pay at Harrah's AC
Yes, the advantage to the player is that he or she can be a magnanimous person,
and give, via an unnecessary tip, the raise to the slot attendant that Harrah's
was too cheap to give.
Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you
can't win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice,
there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation
to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein
Today I found out Harrah's AC has changed their door to door payout service
from a minimum of 1200 to 1000 dineros.
Can anybody think of one advantage the player has with this new wrinkle
except for a better opportunity to get mugged in the garage or restroom?
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[vpFREE] Re: poker math
Thanks much. So, just to make sure I got this right:
If I played 100 hands, it is about 8.9 to 1 against me not getting dealt trips (i.e., about 11.3% of the time I won't get dealt trips in 100 hands).
If I played 250 hands, it is about 234.8 to 1 against me not getting dealt trips (i.e., about 0.4% of the time I won't get dealt trips in 250 hands).
--and--
If I played 500 hands, it is about 55,130.8 to 1 against me not getting dealt trips (i.e., about 0.00002% of the time I won't get dealt trips in 500 hands).
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Jason Pawloski <jpawloski@...> wrote:
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> The probability of not receiving dealt trips is 1-(1/46.3). Since hands are
> independent, the probability of not receiving dealt trips in two hands is
> the square of this value, in the three hands is the cube of this value, and
> so on. So assuming hands, I get the odds to be 167565075937230.
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Jeff McDaniel <jmcdaniel@...>wrote:
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> > I have a question for the math folks. If I understand the calculations
> > correctly, on the deal, I will receive dealt trips about once every 46.3
> > hands. I was recently playing and did not receive dealt trips for about an
> > hour and a half. Assume I play 1,000 hands per hour, so I received 1 dealt
> > trip in 1,500 trials. How unusual was that result? Is standard deviation the
> > proper way to determine/express how unusual the result was? Is there a
> > website you can point me to help me learn how to perform the calculation
> > myself? Many thanks in advance for your help. Jeff
> >
> >
> >
>
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[vpFREE] Re: We Luv Locals
<vegasvpplayer@...> wrote:
> Tonight I saw at both Boulder Station (near the
> sportsbook) and Texas Station (outside the Bingo
> room) a bank of MG/MD slants with "New" signs on
> top. The machines all have 12 games and at a quick
> glance I would say that at the 25c/50c/$1
> denomination all games are in the area of 99 - 99.8%
> return. Among the offerings are 9/6 JB, 8/5 BP,
> 9/6 DDB, 9/7 DB, 9/6 BPD, 9/5 SDB, 8/5 Aces Bonus,
> NSUD, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if all Station
> Casinos don't have at least one bank of these machines.
It looks like these new over-99% games have been reported to vpFREE2 for all Station/Fiesta casinos except Sunset and Santa Fe. The ones I saw recently at Red Rock have new faceplates that say "Up To 99.8% Payback" so they should be easier to find.
Re: [vpFREE] poker math
The probability of not receiving dealt trips is 1-(1/46.3). Since hands are
independent, the probability of not receiving dealt trips in two hands is
the square of this value, in the three hands is the cube of this value, and
so on. So assuming hands, I get the odds to be 167565075937230.
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Jeff McDaniel <jmcdaniel@dmtechlaw.com>wrote:
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>
> I have a question for the math folks. If I understand the calculations
> correctly, on the deal, I will receive dealt trips about once every 46.3
> hands. I was recently playing and did not receive dealt trips for about an
> hour and a half. Assume I play 1,000 hands per hour, so I received 1 dealt
> trip in 1,500 trials. How unusual was that result? Is standard deviation the
> proper way to determine/express how unusual the result was? Is there a
> website you can point me to help me learn how to perform the calculation
> myself? Many thanks in advance for your help. Jeff
>
>
>
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[vpFREE] Re: poker math
Thanks. So, for that hour and half, I was either the most unlucky person to walk that planet for quite some time or I had a serious fault with my perception of time, my attention to whether I actually got dealt trips, or both. I guess I will have to go with "both."
Is there a name given to that formula so I may read up on it?
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
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> It a very simple equation and you should memories it.
>
> C = 1-(P-1/P) to the power of N
>
> So 46.3 - 1 = 45.3
>
> 1-(45.3 / 46.3) ^ 500 = 99.99% chance of hitting at least 1.
>
> If as you say, you didn't get one in 1.5 hours, it's a media event. Perhaps the third most unlikely thing every to happen.
>
> If you were wondering what the 1st and 2ond most unlikely things were, the answer is: Just Coincidences.
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> ~FK
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>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff McDaniel" <jmcdaniel@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a question for the math folks. If I understand the calculations correctly, on the deal, I will receive dealt trips about once every 46.3 hands. I was recently playing and did not receive dealt trips for about an hour and a half. Assume I play 1,000 hands per hour, so I received 1 dealt trip in 1,500 trials. How unusual was that result? Is standard deviation the proper way to determine/express how unusual the result was? Is there a website you can point me to help me learn how to perform the calculation myself? Many thanks in advance for your help. Jeff
> >
>
[vpFREE] $1000 Hand Pay at Harrah's AC
Howdy Wranglers
Today I found out Harrah's AC has changed their door to door payout service
from a minimum of 1200 to 1000 dineros. What precipitated this totally
anti player move is beyond my aging brain. It is now clearly printed on a
small sticker on each slot and vp machine if you are carrying a high power
magnifying glass because the printing is the size of rat turds.
Can anybody think of one advantage the player has with this new wrinkle
except for a better opportunity to get mugged in the garage or restroom?
Ralph Gary
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[vpFREE] Re: poker math
It a very simple equation and you should memories it.
C = 1-(P-1/P) to the power of N
So 46.3 - 1 = 45.3
1-(45.3 / 46.3) ^ 500 = 99.99% chance of hitting at least 1.
If as you say, you didn't get one in 1.5 hours, it's a media event. Perhaps the third most unlikely thing every to happen.
If you were wondering what the 1st and 2ond most unlikely things were, the answer is: Just Coincidences.
~FK
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff McDaniel" <jmcdaniel@...> wrote:
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> I have a question for the math folks. If I understand the calculations correctly, on the deal, I will receive dealt trips about once every 46.3 hands. I was recently playing and did not receive dealt trips for about an hour and a half. Assume I play 1,000 hands per hour, so I received 1 dealt trip in 1,500 trials. How unusual was that result? Is standard deviation the proper way to determine/express how unusual the result was? Is there a website you can point me to help me learn how to perform the calculation myself? Many thanks in advance for your help. Jeff
>
[vpFREE] Re: rare royal flush
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> > Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 90k shot.
> >
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> Royals come around about every 350,000 in fp pickem. Once you're looking at three parts to it, it's just another 2-card draw. Easy peasy.
>
per tomSki royal flush cycle is 90k+
MJ
[vpFREE] poker math
I have a question for the math folks. If I understand the calculations correctly, on the deal, I will receive dealt trips about once every 46.3 hands. I was recently playing and did not receive dealt trips for about an hour and a half. Assume I play 1,000 hands per hour, so I received 1 dealt trip in 1,500 trials. How unusual was that result? Is standard deviation the proper way to determine/express how unusual the result was? Is there a website you can point me to help me learn how to perform the calculation myself? Many thanks in advance for your help. Jeff
[vpFREE] Re: XVP Ticket Trap Hwy 15 - "M" to SPt to Silverton
Im glad they hand out tickets to some of these bastards driving 80-100 through that area while weaving and cutting people off. Follow the speed limit or at least be close to it ,not too hard to keep things safe.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, anterozlv@... wrote:
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> Within the last 2 months I have witnessed as many as 8 violators pulled over usually going North into Las Vegas. Most recently as I approached the on-ramp from the "M" to enter Hwy 15 going North, there were 4 HPatrols cars parked on the ramp to the right. That ramp goes from 3 lanes and
> merges to 2 and then down to 1 before entering the freeway.
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> As I entered the freeway there were already 2 cars pulled over with the 4 HP "on the ramp" waiting for their next violators. Remember, around the M to the South Point, the mph is 65 and then depending on the projects near the sPt, it goes down to 55 with double penalties in the construction zone.
> As you near Silverton (Blue Diamond Rd) it again drops to 55 and stays at the lower mph until the the Hwy 215 turnoff.
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> With more tickets being written to improve the revenue, this is a very likely place to find a lot of violators.
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> Beware!
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[vpFREE] Re: Frank Kneeland-Will you PLEASE correct the Southpoint false advertising?
I appreciate the correction. Love the show. Hope it stays on for 20 years.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
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> For future reference. We write the adds and commercials used on our show. So if there is an error, it's not some part of a dark casino conspiracy. It's just a mistake and we appreciate you bringing it to our attention.
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> I just wrote this to sum it up--
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> We all know Occam's razor. Less known is his toothbrush: There is no need to assume malicious intent, when mere stupidity is a plausible explanation. ~FK
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