Re: [vpFREE] Re: Odds

 

Well stated Johnny. 

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On Feb 8, 2020, at 9:41 PM, greeklandjohnny@aol.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

If you take it just as "what are the odds of only having 2 quads in 12000 hands" the answer is about one in 5 billion, depending on the game. But that would be for single line. What Dunbar is getting at is that 100 play is highly dependent on the dealt hand for its results. 

If you play 12,000 hands of single line, the chance of not being dealt trips is 0. But in 100 play, since you only will be dealt 120 hands, the chances of not seeing trips dealt is only 1 in 12. That's what he means by his 'all my eggs in one basket'.  

Multiline distorts the normal statistics used to describe rare events. Dealt quads in 100 play happen about every 2800 hands. In single line, the odds of you being dealt trips 100 times in a row are 0.  


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Dunbar , I'm not asking about dealt trips or quads. I asking about 2 quads in 12000 hands

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It's not an easy question to give an exact answer to, at least not for me.  While I'm sure the odds are small, they are not as small as one might think.   When you play 100-line, there's an "all my eggs in one basket" effect.

With single line, your expected number of dealt trips for that amount of play is 253.  But with just 120 dealt hands to work with, you have a significant chance (8%) of never being dealt trips.   

Your chance of being dealt quads in 120 hands is less than 3%.  Compare that to the 94% chance of dealt quads if the same amount of play was done with single-line in the same denomination.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Odds

 

If you take it just as "what are the odds of only having 2 quads in 12000 hands" the answer is about one in 5 billion, depending on the game. But that would be for single line. What Dunbar is getting at is that 100 play is highly dependent on the dealt hand for its results. 

If you play 12,000 hands of single line, the chance of not being dealt trips is 0. But in 100 play, since you only will be dealt 120 hands, the chances of not seeing trips dealt is only 1 in 12. That's what he means by his 'all my eggs in one basket'.  

Multiline distorts the normal statistics used to describe rare events. Dealt quads in 100 play happen about every 2800 hands. In single line, the odds of you being dealt trips 100 times in a row are 0.  


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Dunbar , I'm not asking about dealt trips or quads. I asking about 2 quads in 12000 hands

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It's not an easy question to give an exact answer to, at least not for me.  While I'm sure the odds are small, they are not as small as one might think.   When you play 100-line, there's an "all my eggs in one basket" effect.

With single line, your expected number of dealt trips for that amount of play is 253.  But with just 120 dealt hands to work with, you have a significant chance (8%) of never being dealt trips.   

Your chance of being dealt quads in 120 hands is less than 3%.  Compare that to the 94% chance of dealt quads if the same amount of play was done with single-line in the same denomination.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Odds

 

Dunbar , I'm not asking about dealt trips or quads. I asking about 2 quads in 12000 hands

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It's not an easy question to give an exact answer to, at least not for me.  While I'm sure the odds are small, they are not as small as one might think.   When you play 100-line, there's an "all my eggs in one basket" effect.

With single line, your expected number of dealt trips for that amount of play is 253.  But with just 120 dealt hands to work with, you have a significant chance (8%) of never being dealt trips.   

Your chance of being dealt quads in 120 hands is less than 3%.  Compare that to the 94% chance of dealt quads if the same amount of play was done with single-line in the same denomination.

--Dunbar





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[vpFREE] Re: Odds

 

It's not an easy question to give an exact answer to, at least not for me.  While I'm sure the odds are small, they are not as small as one might think.   When you play 100-line, there's an "all my eggs in one basket" effect.

With single line, your expected number of dealt trips for that amount of play is 253.  But with just 120 dealt hands to work with, you have a significant chance (8%) of never being dealt trips.   

Your chance of being dealt quads in 120 hands is less than 3%.  Compare that to the 94% chance of dealt quads if the same amount of play was done with single-line in the same denomination.

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[vpFREE] Odds

 

No need to explain why I make this play, but hope one of you math whizzes can tell me the odds of the following occurring

120 dealt hands of 100 play DDB (12000 hands) drawing only 2 four of a kind

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