Re: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's Slot Club Spotlight - 8 MAR 2016

 

Depends where and how you're getting your advantage. If you've found a 10/6 DDB with 2-pair paying 2-for-1 (instead of 1-for-1), you have a huge advantage. If all you get is 0.1% cash-back and maybe 1% back in mail.....using a players card is probably not the best idea.

If the advantage comes directly from using the card (CB, mail, promos, etc.), then you have to use your card to get the advantage.

You're either beating the machine (FPDW, gaffed machine, machines in a +EV state) or you're beating the casino/marketing (promo, mail). If the machine is slightly +EV, then of course ya wanna add on the players card benefits. But if you're playing huge +EV games, like I believe mickey is playing, staying away from a players card is probably the better option.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's Slot Club Spotlight - 8 MAR 2016

 

I completely disagree. I play at some casinos where the benefits that I get from using a slot club card are staggering, cash back, free play offers, high dollar tournaments, that's not even counting comps. The worst that has happened to me in over 30 years of playing is that I do too well at a casino and my offers dropped. In Mickey's case where the benefits are small from his card and he moves around to a lot of properties then I can see where there would be minimal benefit to a card, but for someone playing in Vegas or anywhere else where you are a regular player the benefits from a card are just too high to give up.

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Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's Slot Club Spotlight - 8 MAR 2016

vp_wiz wrote: "However, in my personal experience, very few plays are "playable" in absence of slot card promotions (and expect that is true for most players here)."

I think there are a lot of different definitions of "playable", so I suggest just looking at slot cards on an EV basis. The cost of being tracked is difficult to determine, but I suggest that it is HUUUGE and almost always substantially more than the return benefits of the card, hence the modern slot card is almost always negative EV.

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[vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's Slot Club Spotlight - 8 MAR 2016

 

vp_wiz wrote: "However, in my personal experience, very few plays are "playable" in absence of slot card promotions (and expect that is true for most players here)."

I think there are a lot of different definitions of "playable", so I suggest just looking at slot cards on an EV basis. The cost of being tracked is difficult to determine, but I suggest that it is HUUUGE and almost always substantially more than the return benefits of the card, hence the modern slot card is almost always negative EV.

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Forget the "wrinkles/krinkles" ... those eyes say all that needs saying ;)
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[vpFREE] An Old War Horse

 

Maybe its time. I've hidden my identity for a long long time. My last name is certainly Crimm. But I've hidden my first name on all the gambling forums. I can only tell you this. I was named after my father but my mother always called me Mickey. That's the name that all my family and friends call me.

I've never allowed anyone in the gambling world to ever get a picture of me. But I am of the age now where I really don't care. Yhe rinkles and krinkles in my face are not age but miles. I'm a million mile strong man. You are all my peers but none of you are better than me. At long last I allow a picture of myself on the internet. This is what my rambling gambling old country ass looks like.

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