[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 27 NOV 2012

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 27 NOV 2012

"Upcoming Casino Travels"

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=2450

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[vpFREE] Re: New Coast free play policy?

 

I think this is just a screw-up on the online accounts since I got the mailed version yesterday and it says we can download free play right at the machine. Also my online account was like that in November and I was able to download free play at the machines as usual without taking any coupon to the slot club first.

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> The new combined mailers for Sun Coast, Gold Coast, Orleans and Sam's
> Town arrived today. The offers are also on the B Connected website.
> The free play offers are now in a new section on the Offers page called
> "Play your way to Vegas". When I clicked on a free play offer to read
> the details, this is what I saw:
> DISCLAIMER:Present your coupon that you received in the mail along with
> your B Connected card and valid photo ID at the B Connected Club to
> receive the Slot Dollars. If you do not have a PIN number, you will need
> to establish one. You must wager all downloaded Slot Dollars prior to
> cashing out. Offer may not be used with any other offer, promotion,
> convention or special event. This offer is non-transferable and may be
> redeemed once. Must be 21 years of age. Management reserves all rights.
> Don't let the game get out of hand. For assistance, call 1-800-522-4700.
> I'm hoping this is not going to be the actual procedure because it is so
> much less convenient and may cause long lines during the busy evening
> hours.
> G'luck all,Gamb00ler

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Re: [vpFREE] Starting hands that result in RF

 

Just to clarify this, and clean up the fat-fingering

RF5  1 in 649,740 deals        6% of all royals
RF4  1 in 47          draws     31% of all royals
RF3  1 in 1,081     draws     41% of all royals
RF2  1 in 16,215   draws     21% of all royals
RF1  1 in 511,000 HANDS   1% of all royals
RF0  1 in 400,000 draws       0.3%

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To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:25:17 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Starting hands that result in RF


 
Len Fromm in one of his early books had a chapter titled
"Where do Royals Come From?

My notes from that book, plus my own analysis,

show the following for 69JoB

RF5  1 in 649,740 deals     6% of all royals
RF4  1 in 47 draws           31% "   "    "
RF3  1 in 1,061 "              41% "   "    "
RF2  1 in 16215   "           21% "  "     "
RF1  1 in 511K   "              1% "   "    "
Razgu 1 in 400k "               0.3% " "   "
This assumes correct strategy for a 4,000 coin royal.
Correct strategy on progressives generally means playing more
RF3, RF2 hands. thus increasing their frequency.

That's the theory based on the "long term".

In real life I have 68 royals (and counting) in casinos.
That represents about 3 million hands.

According to the theory I should have been dealt 1/16 of these.
How many dealt royals can I claim?

Only 1 of 68.

When the heck does the "long term" arrive??

Brian

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Subject: [vpFREE] Starting hands that result in RF

 
I looked around for a while, but can't seem to find this posted anywhere.

I'm familiar with the math for the likelihood of getting a RF holding 4 cards (1 in 47), 3 cards (1 in 1081), etc. And I am familiar with the RF cycle representing the overall frequency.

What proportion of RF results come from the various starting positions?

Example: For 9/6 JoB, what proportion of RF results come from holding RF4, RF3, RF2, RF1, etc?

Do 62% of Royals come from being dealt four to a royal? 21% come from being dealt 3 to a royal? etc?

Thanks in advance. Doubly so if there is a really obvious link I should have found before. :)

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RE: [vpFREE] Starting hands that result in RF

 

<<In real life I have 68 royals (and counting) in casinos.
That represents about 3 million hands.

According to the theory I should have been dealt 1/16 of these.
How many dealt royals can I claim?

Only 1 of 68.

When the heck does the "long term" arrive??>>

Do you ever play multi-line? You're only down one dealt royal on a triple-play. That's not too aberrant.

Cogno

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[vpFREE] Full pay job at ellis island

 

The machines that were downgraded at ellis island in the last month or so are now full pay again. All denominations on these machines are now 9/6 job. These are located right in front of players club. Hope this update helps.

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Re: [vpFREE] Starting hands that result in RF

 

Len Fromm in one of his early books had a chapter titled
"Where do Royals Come From?

My notes from that book, plus my own analysis,

show the following for 69JoB

RF5  1 in 649,740 deals     6% of all royals
RF4  1 in 47 draws           31% "   "    "
RF3  1 in 1,061 "              41% "   "    "
RF2  1 in 16215   "           21% "  "     "
RF1  1 in 511K   "              1% "   "    "
Razgu 1 in 400k "               0.3% " "   "
This assumes correct strategy for a 4,000 coin royal.
Correct strategy on progressives generally means playing more
RF3, RF2 hands. thus increasing their frequency.

That's the theory based on the "long term".

In real life I have 68 royals (and counting) in casinos.
That represents about 3 million hands.

According to the theory I should have been dealt 1/16 of these.
How many dealt royals can I claim?

Only 1 of 68.

When the heck does the "long term" arrive??

Brian

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:08:33 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Starting hands that result in RF


 
I looked around for a while, but can't seem to find this posted anywhere.

I'm familiar with the math for the likelihood of getting a RF holding 4 cards (1 in 47), 3 cards (1 in 1081), etc. And I am familiar with the RF cycle representing the overall frequency.

What proportion of RF results come from the various starting positions?

Example: For 9/6 JoB, what proportion of RF results come from holding RF4, RF3, RF2, RF1, etc?

Do 62% of Royals come from being dealt four to a royal? 21% come from being dealt 3 to a royal? etc?

Thanks in advance. Doubly so if there is a really obvious link I should have found before. :)

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[vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 27 NOV 2012

 

Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 27 NOV 2012

"Card Craps® at Viejas"

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2012/1127.cfm

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[vpFREE] Re: Starting hands that result in RF

 

5-Card has information on this subject. There is also a lot of other great vp information in his site.
http://www.videopokerhelp.net/odds.htm

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[vpFREE] Re: Starting hands that result in RF

 

The figures I have for drawing a royal flush are:

6% dealt
31% draw 1
41% draw 2
19% draw 3
3% draw 4
0.3% draw 5

I don't know exactly the source, but Brian posted this two years ago.

Hope it helps,
Joel P

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Starting hands that result in RF

 



Don't have a link. This was posted on this list about two years ago and I saved it because I found it interesting. I'm pretty sure it was for JoB strategy:

6% are dealt - chances of getting it are 1 in 649,740 deals

31% from 4 card hold - chance of filling is 1 in 47

41% from 3 card hold - chance of filling is 1 in 1,081

19% from 2 card hold - chance of filling is 1 in 16,215

3% from 1 card hold - chance of filling is 1 in 178,365

0.3% from draw 5 - chance of filling is 1 in 500,000

--BG

Looks about right --- except for the chance from draw 5. If you do NOT have a 10, the chances are 1 in 383,484.75. If you do have a 10, the odds are 1 in 511,313. To figure out the weighted average you need to enumerate the number of Draw 5 hands that do and do not contain a 10. That's more work than I want to undertake right now, but 1 in 500,000 expresses longer odds than actually exist.



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[vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 27 NOV 2012

 

Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 27 NOV 2012

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[vpFREE] Re: Starting hands that result in RF

 

Don't have a link. This was posted on this list about two years ago and I saved it because I found it interesting. I'm pretty sure it was for JoB strategy:

6% are dealt - chances of getting it are 1 in 649,740 deals
31% from 4 card hold - chance of filling is 1 in 47
41% from 3 card hold - chance of filling is 1 in 1,081
19% from 2 card hold - chance of filling is 1 in 16,215
3% from 1 card hold - chance of filling is 1 in 178,365
0.3% from draw 5 - chance of filling is 1 in 500,000

--BG
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> 1a. Re: Starting hands that result in RF

> > I looked around for a while, but can't seem to find
> this posted anywhere.
> >
> > I'm familiar with the math for the likelihood of
> getting a RF holding 4 cards (1 in 47), 3 cards (1 in 1081),
> etc. And I am familiar with the RF cycle representing the
> overall frequency.
> >
> > What proportion of RF results come from the various
> starting positions?
> >
> > Example: For 9/6 JoB, what proportion of RF results
> come from holding RF4, RF3, RF2, RF1, etc?
> >
> > Do 62% of Royals come from being dealt four to a royal?
> 21% come from being dealt 3 to a royal? etc?
> >
> > Thanks in advance. Doubly so if there is a really
> obvious link I should have found before. :)
> >

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[vpFREE] Scot Krause's Real Deals - 27 NOV 2012

 

Scot Krause's Real Deals - 27 NOV 2012

http://gamingtoday.com/articles/article/39040-Real_Deals_Las_Vegas_Casino_bargains_and_promotions

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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 27 NOV 2012

 

LVA Question of the Day - 27 NOV 2012

Q: Do old casino players cards from gone-but-not-forgotten
casinos such as Desert Inn, Stardust, and Sahara have any
monetary value for sale to collectors?

Read the answer here:

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