Yup! I saw the "subscribe" link on your home page and submitted it with no problems.
Bob in San Antonio
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better answer ... "first rule of theo is you do not talk about theo" ;)
James Morgan wrote :
Difference between EV and theo is a good question....
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> And your points earned while playing on the machines did not
> show as you were playing. But when you pulled out your card
> and reinserted it, the newly earned points were added to your
> total.
The above was still true today, but at least they are planning on having the drawing tonight plus the one they postponed last Friday.
In restaurant news - A couple of employees told me that the Palms Buffet and 24/7 Cafe are going to be taken over by an outside management company.
Also Hooter's is getting closer to opening. I can see that they will have video poker at the bar in there, but I doubt that there will be any decent paytables since none of their other bars have any.
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Difference between EV and theo is a good question....
First, lets talk about EV vs ER.
ER = expected returnEV = expected valuetheo = theoretical house win
ER is a static number. It is the average return per dollarinvested, usually expressed as a percentage. So, forexample, the ER for 9/6 Jack or better is roughly 99.54%On a progressive, the ER moves as the progressive valuesrise, but for each play, that number is still a fixed valuebased on the current payouts.
EV is rooted in value, i.e. money. If we toss a coin andI pay $2 if I lose and you pay $1 if you lose, your expectedvalue for the game is 50 cents. Sometimes EV is expressedas an hourly expected value. This is especially importantfor gamblers. A 10% edge is useless if you are only ableto bet $1 an hour. Those who intend to make good moneyin their gambling must accurately asses their hourly EV.Note that this must include all potential gains, such ascash back, drawing, bounce back, etc. So EV, though very tied to ER, is a very different concept.
Theo is, in a sense, an attempt by the house to gauge theirEV. When the house uses a 4% theo, this comes from theirbelief that they will win 4% of all monies wagered. This number is often used to determine comps. The casino maydecide to give 25% of their theoretical win (theo) to theplayers as comps, free play, etc. This is why the housetheo can matter to gamblers. If I am actually playing ata 99.5% ER, and the house has a 4% theo, and the housegives me 25% of that in perks, I am gaining 0.5% becausetheir estimate of what I will lose is way off. The 4% theomay even be correct, when ALL play is tracked. Of course,that will stop if a play gets heavy skilled play or if the publicskill level elevates. So, theo is very much an invented numberand only relates to ER in a crude way.
QZ
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Go to the bottom of the page if you're on the mobile site & push the "original version".
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aprvp wrote: "Sorry. Please explain the difference(s) between "theo" and EV. Thanks."
EV is the computer perfect average return.
But real people don't play computer perfect in the casino environment, even Bob Dancer has admitted to making play mistakes.
Theo is the theoretical hold of a machine including the effect of play mistakes, so real theo is always greater than the computer perfect hold. Originally the game manufacturers told the casinos what the theos where, but today sometimes the casinos pull numbers out of thin air, so sometimes "casino theo" is less than the computer perfect hold, even though that's mathematically impossible.
9-6 Jacks computer perfect hold is 0.456% while its theo is probably something like a 2% hold, maybe 1% if players are using smartphones and playing slow.
Harrahs, Caesars, whatever, uses ADT (average daily theoretical) and time on the machine to determine marketing offers, not coin in. Loveman may have even written a paper on the concept for all I know.
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Still does not work for me. I am using an iPad.
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> <<I go to your blog homepage but do NOT see anything saying "SUBSCRIBE".>>
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I was talking to a friend who plays there and he said all the 9/6 Jbs now pay 500 for royals even with max play. Argh.
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