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> So, given that the mini starts at $10, does anyone think a mini of
> say $140 might make it positive EV?
>
I've seen mini's for Outback Jack in high $200s and mid-$300s. Don't
think I've seen $400s.
Probably need some data from manufacturer about
(1) What is base percentage on machine?
(2) How much mini & maxi contribute to overall return?
Personally I've never been successful taking small potshots at high
minis.
Sometimes I get a good line-pay & quit.
For a 1st time serious try, I probably would want $350+. And maybe
throw $350, 500, or 700 at it before bailing.
Good luck.
Mitchell
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, jhwsmyrna@... wrote:
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> C and D - That's why they call it "mystery progressives" .
>
>
> In a message dated 3/16/2013 11:37:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> bobbartop@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Ok, there's this bank of machines at my local Indian casino called Outback
> Jack. They're made by Aristocrat. I always eyeball them when I pass by on
> my way toward the video poker. So apparently these are one of those "mystery
> progressives" that we were talking about on this board a few weeks ago and
> I needed someone to explain to me what it meant. Apparently "mystery
> progressive" means "when the machine feels darn good and ready like giving it
> to you". It has a maxi jackpot and a mini jackpot, and they are not
> must-hit-by or dependent on any symbols lining up.
>
> It's one of those 20-line things, with bonus screens, and all kinds of
> confusing crap. Typically the maxi is in the $900-$1100 range, but the mini
> starts at $10 (I think) and are usually in the $30-$40 range. However, once
> in awhile I see the minis at $120, $140, whatever.
>
> So, given that the mini starts at $10, does anyone think a mini of say
> $140 might make it positive EV?
>
> Looking for others' opinions. Thanks.
>
> a.) Most definitely positive
>
> b.) Maybe not, even though it is 14X re-set
>
> c.) Probably still not positive
>
> d.) Impossible to know
>
>
>
>
>
>
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i have never seen the mini go past 100, if its 120 its hugely positive but you need to but max, check the meter increments, usually on that game its 2 cents per dollar
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I had problem's with the First Bank of Tennessee, that first had the Harrahs Visa card. I had to send my payment's in by certified mail, because they said they didn't get payments that I mailed a week before they were due. No problem's with BOA, but after reading these comments, I'm not goiung to Comenity.
BTW, CZR also had some kind of deal where you buy electiricity from one of their "partners" and got extra RCs'. It looked fishy to me.
Ned C.
The Wild Joker
Seems like CZR let their deal with BOA lapse. More than likely b/c they got a sweeter deal from "Comenity Bank"/ADS. Until now I had never heard of either.
Didn't have to look too far (the first page of the Google search) to see loads of complaints against "Comenity".
I understand that many CC companies have many complaints against them....... and i'm not telling you "Do not apply"
I'm simply suggesting you do your homework before firing off an app to them......... may be more trouble than its worth.
http://www.complaintslist.com/banks/comenity/
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Thanks for the info.
What's the point of having printable coupons if they are not redeemable?
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "grasp69" <royal_poker@> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone had recent experience using these coupons? Are they still being accepted? There are no expiration dates listed.
> >
>
>
> My friend who lives there tried a second time to use the coupon. His 'mistake' this time, though, was that he had printed it from this link. They told him no prints, it has to come from a magazine. That was a couple weeks ago, and I think my friend just forgot about it after that. If he happens upon the magazine and remembers, he should purchase it. Besides, it's a good coupon, and they have some pretty good games there. I've always liked the Skyline and stop by at least once everytime I visit Vegas.
>
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C and D - That's why they call it "mystery progressives" .
In a message dated 3/16/2013 11:37:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bobbartop@yahoo.com writes:
Ok, there's this bank of machines at my local Indian casino called Outback
Jack. They're made by Aristocrat. I always eyeball them when I pass by on
my way toward the video poker. So apparently these are one of those "mystery
progressives" that we were talking about on this board a few weeks ago and
I needed someone to explain to me what it meant. Apparently "mystery
progressive" means "when the machine feels darn good and ready like giving it
to you". It has a maxi jackpot and a mini jackpot, and they are not
must-hit-by or dependent on any symbols lining up.
It's one of those 20-line things, with bonus screens, and all kinds of
confusing crap. Typically the maxi is in the $900-$1100 range, but the mini
starts at $10 (I think) and are usually in the $30-$40 range. However, once
in awhile I see the minis at $120, $140, whatever.
So, given that the mini starts at $10, does anyone think a mini of say
$140 might make it positive EV?
Looking for others' opinions. Thanks.
a.) Most definitely positive
b.) Maybe not, even though it is 14X re-set
c.) Probably still not positive
d.) Impossible to know
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Ok, there's this bank of machines at my local Indian casino called Outback Jack. They're made by Aristocrat. I always eyeball them when I pass by on my way toward the video poker. So apparently these are one of those "mystery progressives" that we were talking about on this board a few weeks ago and I needed someone to explain to me what it meant. Apparently "mystery progressive" means "when the machine feels darn good and ready like giving it to you". It has a maxi jackpot and a mini jackpot, and they are not must-hit-by or dependent on any symbols lining up.
It's one of those 20-line things, with bonus screens, and all kinds of confusing crap. Typically the maxi is in the $900-$1100 range, but the mini starts at $10 (I think) and are usually in the $30-$40 range. However, once in awhile I see the minis at $120, $140, whatever.
So, given that the mini starts at $10, does anyone think a mini of say $140 might make it positive EV?
Looking for others' opinions. Thanks.
a.) Most definitely positive
b.) Maybe not, even though it is 14X re-set
c.) Probably still not positive
d.) Impossible to know
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "grasp69" <royal_poker@...> wrote:
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> Has anyone had recent experience using these coupons? Are they still being accepted? There are no expiration dates listed.
>
My friend who lives there tried a second time to use the coupon. His 'mistake' this time, though, was that he had printed it from this link. They told him no prints, it has to come from a magazine. That was a couple weeks ago, and I think my friend just forgot about it after that. If he happens upon the magazine and remembers, he should purchase it. Besides, it's a good coupon, and they have some pretty good games there. I've always liked the Skyline and stop by at least once everytime I visit Vegas.
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It was John Pinette who did Chinese buffet routine and he will soon
be at Orleans. Just trying to give credit to the correct person:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdwuiyO7hOU
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From: Barry Glazer <b.glazer@att.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:57 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Casino oversight and the player's club?
> 4a. Re: Casino oversight and the player's club?
>
....I think that people could be banned, but to do so at the level
> of an individual would need justification to a level that
> the individual warrants being thrown out, breaking the law,
> cheating, disorderly conduct (not sure what this would be
> for a casino), etc. Otherwise, it seems that to essentially
> change the players club for an individual because of reasons
> like, the player hit a jackpot, or they play on days we give
> bonus points, or they play a game we offer to the public but
> don't want him/her to play I think would strain the limit of
> any definition with fair in it.
While I agree with the above assessment of what can be done to an individual by a casino and be considered "fair", the fact that advantage players can be altogether banned from play under the trespass act suggests to me that lesser penalties could also be levied. The rank and file unknowledgeable gambler certainly thinks it's wrong to use the trespass act to bar individuals from playing because they are using their brains to get an edge - but it's allowed, and done all the time.
In blackjack, players can be barred from play, and can also be limited in what they are allowed to do (I once played next to a player who was counting cards out loud, but who told me the casino would only let him vary his bets by a two to one ratio; I assume they felt they could impose such a restriction on a single player at a table of other players not subject to such a restriction, because if they wanted, they could make him leave the premises).
I agree that it seems that taking away comps already earned, especially if they have value such as cash or otherwise taxable value, seems like something that they would be hard-pressed to get away with, but anything oriented only to the future would have very few limits, I'd think.
I think it was Louie Anderson who did a bit about being barred from a chinese all-you-can-eat buffet (funny routine - stuff like "you go home now, you be here four hours, you scare my wife, eat some vegetables" etc.)
--BG
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Has anyone had recent experience using these coupons? Are they still being accepted? There are no expiration dates listed.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@> wrote:
> >
> > I got this response from the CP folks:
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> > Thanks for the alert on the Skyline coupons. FYI, they are valid.
> >
> > Would you be able to find out if the rejection came from the slot or
> > restaurant offer? It would help to locate who dropped the ball.
> >
> > If it was the restaurant, Marty the manager will be happy to take care of a
> > complete dinner for the people that were inconvenienced with this situation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve Kieva
>
>
>
> He said he was playing at the bar and wanted to use the 4-of-a-kind coupon. The bartender apparently wasn't aware of it and called someone else and they weren't aware of it either.
>
> thanks
> -BB
>
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> 4a. Re: Casino oversight and the player's club?
>
....I think that people could be banned, but to do so at the level
> of an individual would need justification to a level that
> the individual warrants being thrown out, breaking the law,
> cheating, disorderly conduct (not sure what this would be
> for a casino), etc. Otherwise, it seems that to essentially
> change the players club for an individual because of reasons
> like, the player hit a jackpot, or they play on days we give
> bonus points, or they play a game we offer to the public but
> don't want him/her to play I think would strain the limit of
> any definition with fair in it.
While I agree with the above assessment of what can be done to an individual by a casino and be considered "fair", the fact that advantage players can be altogether banned from play under the trespass act suggests to me that lesser penalties could also be levied. The rank and file unknowledgeable gambler certainly thinks it's wrong to use the trespass act to bar individuals from playing because they are using their brains to get an edge - but it's allowed, and done all the time.
In blackjack, players can be barred from play, and can also be limited in what they are allowed to do (I once played next to a player who was counting cards out loud, but who told me the casino would only let him vary his bets by a two to one ratio; I assume they felt they could impose such a restriction on a single player at a table of other players not subject to such a restriction, because if they wanted, they could make him leave the premises).
I agree that it seems that taking away comps already earned, especially if they have value such as cash or otherwise taxable value, seems like something that they would be hard-pressed to get away with, but anything oriented only to the future would have very few limits, I'd think.
I think it was Louie Anderson who did a bit about being barred from a chinese all-you-can-eat buffet (funny routine - stuff like "you go home now, you be here four hours, you scare my wife, eat some vegetables" etc.)
--BG
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Seems like CZR let their deal with BOA lapse. More than likely b/c they got a sweeter deal from "Comenity Bank"/ADS. Until now I had never heard of either.
Didn't have to look too far (the first page of the Google search) to see loads of complaints against "Comenity".
I understand that many CC companies have many complaints against them....... and i'm not telling you "Do not apply"
I'm simply suggesting you do your homework before firing off an app to them......... may be more trouble than its worth.
http://www.complaintslist.com/banks/comenity/
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