[vpFREE] Re: LVRJ: Cosmopolitan Promotion

 

> Chris Homan <auhoman@...> wrote:
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> promotion is going? I heard June 15th, but does
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"Nathan O. Roemer" <public@...> wrote:
> And if you go play at Cosmopolitan and win, can
> you come back the next day and lose $100 and get
> the free play then?

"camwellcam" <camwellcam@...> wrote:
> Does anyone understand this from the article?
> "Don't have an identity card? Don't worry about it.
> The Cosmopolitan will match anyone's points from any
> other casino in Las Vegas. Just bring a rewards card
> to the Identity membership desk."

The news article says this "promotion runs through June 15". Don't know when you must use the free play, but my policy is to always use it the same day just in case it expires sooner than I think it will.

I have the Cosmo ad about this with the fine print. I don't see anything that says you must do the rebate on your first day of play, but maybe they just didn't mention that.

As someone already wrote, they will match your card level from another casino, not the points. For this you may need to be a new member, since it says "Don't have an identity card?".

Here's their LVRJ ad about this promo but the fine print is too small to read online: http://www.print2webcorp.com/mkt/lvrj/main/View.aspx?i=12813096&e=784364

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Re: [vpFREE] LVRJ: Cosmopolitan Promotion

They will match with equivalent of say diamond for harrahs in their
reward system

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[vpFREE] Re: Occam's Razor

 

I don't categorize these as complaints or fits - but rather as constructive criticisms. I'm sure Frank's taken note and will handle it in a professional way.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Lone Locust of the Apocalypse <zorak@...> wrote:
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> a store had a banner saying "up to 20% off!" and you went in and bought
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[vpFREE] Re: LVRJ: Cosmopolitan Promotion

 



Does anyone understand this from the article?

"Don't have an identity card? Don't worry about it. The Cosmopolitan will match anyone's points from any other casino in Las Vegas. Just bring a rewards card to the Identity membership desk."

~cam

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge June 2nd

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
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> We'll be having on Nolan Dalla tonight, a poker player and writer who is currently the Media Director for the World Series of Poker.
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> Our Live Air-Time is: 7 PM Thursday nights on KLAV Talk-Radio 1230am In Las Vegas. You can listen live at: http://www.klav1230am.com/
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This guy is a pleasure to listen to. Please ask him to tell at least one Stu Ungar story.

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge June 2nd

 



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> Nolan is a great guy. Great personality. He was a columnist for Cardplayer Magazine for several years, and then for Poker Digest. I used to read all his stuff. Very good poker writer. I played poker with him a few times at the WSOP when it was still at the Horseshoe. Always a fun game, win or lose, when he was in it.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Occam's Razor

 

For people complaining about the 102% sign, would you also pitch a fit if
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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge June 2nd

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
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> We'll be having on Nolan Dalla tonight, a poker player and writer who >is currently the Media Director for the World Series of Poker. With >the SOP in full swing it should be a good one.
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Nolan is a great guy. Great personality. He was a columnist for Cardplayer Magazine for several years, and then for Poker Digest. I used to read all his stuff. Very good poker writer. I played poker with him a few times at the WSOP when it was still at the Horseshoe. Always a fun game, win or lose, when he was in it.

He can tell some funny stories. I probably don't have all the details right but he once told of showing up at the WSOP and somehow or another his reservation was lost. Everything was sold out downtown. So he runs into an old poker playing buddy he hadn't seen in several years. He tells the guy of his plight. The guy says "No problem, Nolan. I got a room at the Fremont with double beds. You can stay with me. Just take your bags over and leave them at the bell desk. Whatever time we get through playing poker tonight, I'll take you over and get you a key made."

So Nolan took his bags over then came back to the Horseshoe. They were in different games and his buddy came over and said "Hey, Nolan, I just got stacked off, can I hold $1500 until we get back to the room tonight. Nolan dutifully handed over the money. Later that night Nolan finally got tired of playing and went looking for his buddy. The guy was no where to be found. Nolan went over to the Fremont and asked them to call his room....nobody by that name staying there. Nolan never saw the guy again.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Occam's Razor

 

I understand there are different levels of marketing skills for different products & services. I presided over a major aerospace contractor's international marketing dept. for 15 years, and absolute clarity--at least in foreign markets for American goods--was the basis for trust that piqued interest & got out foot in the door.
 
I have little experience in gaming advertising or marketing however, which is probably why I questioned this. I don't get the "buy Pepsi, get stuff" slogan but I'll take your word for it. 

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Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Occam's Razor

 

clarity is rarely a hallmark of a good marketing message. to say "up to 102.5%, and occasionally higher" might be accurate, but it's a clumsy marketing message.

what makes for a good marketing message is simplicity and the *appearance* of clarity.

"buy pepsi. get stuff."

that's a great message. simple and clear... even though it isn't really clear at all.

what kind of pepsi? what if i buy diet pepsi? or pepsi max? and what about other pepsi brands like sierra mist? is that included in the promo? and what about all the stuff i'm getting? what kind of stuff? bicycles? ipods? cars? refrigerators?

it's not a very clear statement, even though it appears to be. and it leaves many questions unanswered.

but it's a great marketing message.

advertising a VP progressive as having "up to 102% payback" is simple and understandable, even if it may not be entirely accurate. since the average joe thinks paybacks couldn't possibly go higher than 100%, it's a pretty darn good marketing message in that regard.

then again, if payback is advertised as being "up to 102%," why should i settle for anything less? i'll just sit the action out till it gets up to 102% and then hop on. that's the problem with advertising "up to 102%."

who would want to play something that hasn't achieved it's advertised potential?

why give your customers a valid reason to NOT buy your product?

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: LVRJ: Cosmopolitan Promotion

And if you go play at Cosmopolitan and win, can you come back the
next day and lose $100 and get the free play then?

On 02 Jun 2011, at 12:30, Chris Homan wrote:

> Can anyone confirm details on how long the promotion is going? I
> heard June
> 15th, but does the free play have to be used by then as well?
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[vpFREE] Re: Occam's Razor

 

clarity is rarely a hallmark of a good marketing message. to say "up to 102.5%, and occasionally higher" might be accurate, but it's a clumsy marketing message.

what makes for a good marketing message is simplicity and the *appearance* of clarity.

"buy pepsi. get stuff."

that's a great message. simple and clear... even though it isn't really clear at all.

what kind of pepsi? what if i buy diet pepsi? or pepsi max? and what about other pepsi brands like sierra mist? is that included in the promo? and what about all the stuff i'm getting? what kind of stuff? bicycles? ipods? cars? refrigerators?

it's not a very clear statement, even though it appears to be. and it leaves many questions unanswered.

but it's a great marketing message.

advertising a VP progressive as having "up to 102% payback" is simple and understandable, even if it may not be entirely accurate. since the average joe thinks paybacks couldn't possibly go higher than 100%, it's a pretty darn good marketing message in that regard.

then again, if payback is advertised as being "up to 102%," why should i settle for anything less? i'll just sit the action out till it gets up to 102% and then hop on. that's the problem with advertising "up to 102%."

who would want to play something that hasn't achieved it's advertised potential?

why give your customers a valid reason to NOT buy your product?

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[vpFREE] Re: LVRJ: Cosmopolitan Promotion

 

Can anyone confirm details on how long the promotion is going? I heard June
15th, but does the free play have to be used by then as well?

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[vpFREE] M Progressive Strategies

 

I've just posted the KoB Joker ver 2 & Super Double Bonus strategies under our June 2nd show notes: https://www.progressivevp.com/radio_show.php

The Joker has a couple of corrections that were suggested by vpFREE members. Thanks!

The SDB is new.

They are both in Team Format. The Legend is under our May 5th notes.

These are calculated for 10,000 coin and we'll be posting meter-breaks in later weeks. Get the basic strategy down first.

Bob may or may not be posting them in his strategy system on his site. Check late Friday or Saturday morning at bobdancer.com.

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[vpFREE] LVRJ: Cosmopolitan Promotion

 

LVRJ: Cosmopolitan promotion attempts to bring visitors to struggling casino floor

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[vpFREE] Re: ON Strip or OFF Strip

 



Yes, Green Valley Ranch has some decent games. But that depends on what you are interested in playing and at what denom. VPFree2.com would be helpful to you. It lists the good games at many casinos and often the location of the machines. If you will be in LV for the short time you state, VPFree2 might save some walking around time.
As far as recommendations for comedy shows go, it depends on your taste. Some shows are a bit raunchy, some incorporate magic or ventriloquism, some are straight stand-up. I have enjoyed everyone I've seen perform at places on the Strip. My favorite is Terry Fator.
Tourist stuff- If you have not been downtown, go! At night.Free parking, but validate your slip at the cage at many places.
Other fun stuff off the strip is visiting Red Rock Canyon (the loop road takes about an hour) and seeing the gorgeous Red Rock Casino, which also has some decent VP.
My advice is to save the Grand Canyon for another, separate trip.



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> Visiting Calif and driving rental car to Vegas. Finally get to go to "off the strip" casinos I've heard so much about but…should I? This group usually gives great advice so here's my situation/info:
> - Comp rooms & Food at a Harrah's property (on-strip) We're both Diamond already renewable for next yr.
> - Good VP (off-strip)Green Valley?
> - Show tickets (on-strip) Like comedy. Years ago recommendation of"We Will Rock You" was so great
> - Timeframe: 3 nights and 2 full days to see and do everything
> - Tourist stuff – Hoover Dam (roundtrip 1 hour) vs. Grand Canyon (8 hrs?)
> There are probably many other things to ask (like where to get cheap gas before drop off car at airport, etc.) but maybe repsonses will cover things I need know or should have asked.
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