[vpFREE] Re: The 14%'er

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
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> Yes, in both states. South Dakota has Indian casinos and they also have Deadwood. They also have machines in the bars. Al was driving back from the midwest about a year ago and I got him to do some snooping around in South Dakota. The bars have nothing playable in video poker. In Deadwood the poker games are good, and he also found some advantage slots, but the video poker sux.
>
> There are Indian casinos in North Dakota. I haven't been there but have gotten reports that there are some advantage slots.
>

Thanks for that info. I had almost forgotten about Deadwood. I seem to recall that was big news maybe 20 or 30 years ago, like $5 limit poker or something. Too bad they don't have better video poker. Maybe that will change someday. Thanks for the info.

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[vpFREE] Re: The 14%'er

 

>>He told me that Cecil was not as lucky as the rest of them. <<

You sure had to be lucky to survive in that war.

Karen

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[vpFREE] Re: The 14%'er

 

Good luck on your Washington trip. There used to be a few low denom wongable slots in those few outlaw places but today i'm not sure.
The big games used to be in Oregon. There was a high limit room at Spirit Mountian with $5 kool Kat, Bingo, 5 line diamond mine, diamond thief, bonus pie, a bank of triple cash windfall, and a carousel of $25 build your bonus!! These machince got a lot of action , and needless to say a lot of people made a lot money. Oh did I mention they launched their first single deck bj game in this room 50 or 100 to $1000 dealt down to the last card with dealers exposing hole cards.
yep that was cancelled a couple weeks. The slots are gone too, unless you count 3 reamaining machines converted to 10 cents haha.

There is not much left at chinook winds either. A dollar bingo and a dollar baseball, that get very little play. Garbage vp there too.
Oregon has pretty much been VP wastland since casinos came in.

I did get a super video bj play in oregon ten yrs ago. It was the old
"winning Touch" machines. It had $1 bj 10 coin max. sd s17 d9, so good off the top. But even better with 3% UNLIMITED cashback 2 days a
week. Promo was for month. Payed %1 all other days of the month. Ah those were the days.

I played those winning touch machines in the oregon bars when they first legalized slots. every place had 25 cent redhot sevens, not big money obv, but there were lots of good plays left for the first couple months. Last thing they had was 5 cent green stamps, got some good plays at the beginning and hit some for $500 and $600. They still got them but no one plays the game anymore (its on amulti game/denom machine) not worth the gas to even check anymore.

Love the old vp and slot stories, keep them coming.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:

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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
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> >
> > Hey Mickey, let me ask you a question. Are there any machines in >South or North Dakota? Just wondering.
> >
> >
> Al has been sitting in the 30/60 Stud Hi Lo games at the Rio this week. When he gets here next week we are going in the other direction, over to Washington, to play some poker and see what we can find in the way of machines. There's a couple Indian casinos over there that have never signed a compact with the state and have Nevada type machines. We'll see what we can find.
>

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 9 JUN 2011

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 9 JUN 2011

"Chauffeured Trip to Biloxi"

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge June 9th

 

By your command

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
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> > We will be having on Arnold Synder to talk about his books 333 Hard Sudoku and Topless Vegas and whatever else comes up. This is a guy we could talk to for hours and never scratch the surface. He's also a blackjack hall of fame original inductee.
> >
> > Our Live Air-Time is: 7 PM Thursday nights on KLAV Talk-Radio 1230am In Las Vegas. You can listen live at: http://www.klav1230am.com/
> >
> > ~FK
> >
> Frank, several years ago Arnold wrote about a Colorado blackjack player who was using a strategy card at the table. It was the type they sell in casino gifts shops in Nevada, in other words, not worth the paper it's written on. The player was arrested and charged with using a cheating device.
>
> The Colorado statute he was charged under is an exact copy of the Nevada law that was written to outlaw using any kind of electronic device at the tables.
>
> Arnold was looking for a lawyer with blackjack knowledge to represent the person who was arrested. I never got the outcome of the case. I was wondering if you could ask him about it.
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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Tips [Never Hit a 'Real' Royal]

Can't speak for all states, but in Tennessee eliminating tipping would significantly increase the cost of the food in restaurants. Servers are paid well below minimum-wage in Tennessee -- $2.13 an hour last time I checked. Increasing payroll by a factor of 6 at the very least (servers make far more than minimum wage if they are remotely decent) would impact prices accordingly. When I waited tables many years ago my take-home was about 10 times my hourly rate. I was happy if my actual paycheck covered my withholding on my tip income (unlike most, I always reported by tip income to the dime). Most of those folks get zippo bennies in Tennessee too.

I prefer dining at the same places and tipping well (as a former server myself). I've found that I typically enjoy significantly better service at those places than the anonymous customer. Went to the UK once and tipped the bartender like is the American custom. He tried to return it to me, but I told him I wanted him to have it. You've never seen a more attentive barkeep in your life.


To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: ehpee@rogers.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:29:43 -0700
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Tips [Never Hit a 'Real' Royal]


It's a paradigm shift. If you look at any other non union workplace, the good workers get paid more than the bad workers. Eventually the slackers would be pushed out of the system and you would get good service. There are other countries that don't have tipping, they have service charges or just raise the price of the food. I can go to a burger joint and get great service even though tipping at these places is not the norm. Why not ?

I would find it hard to believe that if one were at an upscale restaurant in an area that did not have tipping that you would get bad service.

Regards

A.P.

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From: pumsparky <dianalnagy@aol.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Tips [Never Hit a 'Real' Royal]
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 6:19 AM

I think there would still be complaints, from the workers themselves. Those that do not pay income tax on their real tip total. And just as any job, as the slackers keep their job, others will follow thinking, I am not doing more than so and so and getting paid the same.

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> If it was up to me the people in the service industries would be paid a proper wage.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Tips [Never Hit a 'Real' Royal]

 

It's a paradigm shift. If you look at any other non union workplace, the good workers get paid more than the bad workers. Eventually the slackers would be pushed out of the system and you would get good service. There are other countries that don't have tipping, they have service charges or just raise the price of the food. I can go to a burger joint and get great service even though tipping at these places is not the norm. Why not ?
 
I would find it hard to believe that if one were at an upscale restaurant in an area that did not have tipping that you would get bad service. 

Regards

A.P.

--- On Thu, 6/9/11, pumsparky <dianalnagy@aol.com> wrote:

From: pumsparky <dianalnagy@aol.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Tips [Never Hit a 'Real' Royal]
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 6:19 AM

 

I think there would still be complaints, from the workers themselves. Those that do not pay income tax on their real tip total. And just as any job, as the slackers keep their job, others will follow thinking, I am not doing more than so and so and getting paid the same.

--- On Wed, 6/8/11, Albert Pearson <ehpee@...> wrote:
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> If it was up to me the people in the service industries would be paid a proper wage.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: The 14%'er

 

When in Great Falls I prefer Murph's Bowling Alley. Located at 5515 2nd Ave N in
Great Falls, Mt.

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From: Mickey <mickeycrimm@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 10:28:54 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: The 14%'er

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
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> That Bar
> 619 Central Avenue
> Great Fall, Montana
>
> I'll give you a pool shootin' exhibition.  Bring some money, kid.  I don't need
>your money, but I will damn sure make you pay for your lessons.
>
My head is smokin'.  Any one should definitely be able to tell, from my last few
posts, that I fell off the wagon last night.  A good time was had by all.

In Nevada, or Mississippi, or AC,  and probably in some more jurisdictions I'm a
dime a dozen guy.  But in Montana I'm a diamond in the rough.  I'm the pioneer
machine pro here.  Nobody here knows anything about gambling, not even the
owners of the machines.  The couple at the veterans club and the couple on the
Aces Full $75 play are the only ones I've seen here that have even 10% of a
clue. 

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge June 9th

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
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> We will be having on Arnold Synder to talk about his books 333 Hard Sudoku and Topless Vegas and whatever else comes up. This is a guy we could talk to for hours and never scratch the surface. He's also a blackjack hall of fame original inductee.
>
> Our Live Air-Time is: 7 PM Thursday nights on KLAV Talk-Radio 1230am In Las Vegas. You can listen live at: http://www.klav1230am.com/
>
> ~FK
>
Frank, several years ago Arnold wrote about a Colorado blackjack player who was using a strategy card at the table. It was the type they sell in casino gifts shops in Nevada, in other words, not worth the paper it's written on. The player was arrested and charged with using a cheating device.

The Colorado statute he was charged under is an exact copy of the Nevada law that was written to outlaw using any kind of electronic device at the tables.

Arnold was looking for a lawyer with blackjack knowledge to represent the person who was arrested. I never got the outcome of the case. I was wondering if you could ask him about it.

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[vpFREE] Re: The 14%'er

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
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> Hey Mickey, let me ask you a question. Are there any machines in >South or North Dakota? Just wondering.
>
>
Al has been sitting in the 30/60 Stud Hi Lo games at the Rio this week. When he gets here next week we are going in the other direction, over to Washington, to play some poker and see what we can find in the way of machines. There's a couple Indian casinos over there that have never signed a compact with the state and have Nevada type machines. We'll see what we can find.

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[vpFREE] Re: The 14%'er

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
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> Hey Mickey, let me ask you a question. Are there any machines in >South or North Dakota? Just wondering.
>
>
Yes, in both states. South Dakota has Indian casinos and they also have Deadwood. They also have machines in the bars. Al was driving back from the midwest about a year ago and I got him to do some snooping around in South Dakota. The bars have nothing playable in video poker. In Deadwood the poker games are good, and he also found some advantage slots, but the video poker sux.

There are Indian casinos in North Dakota. I haven't been there but have gotten reports that there are some advantage slots.

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[vpFREE] Gambling With an Edge June 9th

 

We will be having on Arnold Synder to talk about his books 333 Hard Sudoku and Topless Vegas and whatever else comes up. This is a guy we could talk to for hours and never scratch the surface. He's also a blackjack hall of fame original inductee.

Our Live Air-Time is: 7 PM Thursday nights on KLAV Talk-Radio 1230am In Las Vegas. You can listen live at: http://www.klav1230am.com/

~FK

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[vpFREE] Re: The 14%'er

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
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>
> In Nevada, or Mississippi, or AC, and probably in some more jurisdictions I'm a dime a dozen guy. But in Montana I'm a diamond in the rough. I'm the pioneer machine pro here. Nobody here knows anything about gambling, not even the owners of the machines. The couple at the veterans club and the couple on the Aces Full $75 play are the only ones I've seen here that have even 10% of a clue.
>

Hey Mickey, let me ask you a question. Are there any machines in South or North Dakota? Just wondering.

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[vpFREE] Re: Tips

 

I bribed, er, tipped everyone. When you're in the same casino everyday doing the same thing, like sweeping out flush attacks, you are in a glass house. You have a strong money making play but you never know when or if heat will come down. The last thing I wanted to do was make an enemy out of anyone in the joint. If I took a fill I tipped. If I took a handpay I tipped. I tipped the cashier. If you ever lose a play because the person pushing the change cart put the heat on you you'll figure it out.

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