Re: [vpFREE] Re: Their getting viscious in Reno

I doubt seriously the casinos care whether you are an Asian player, Russian player, Italian player, Canadian player, Mexican player, African-American player ( well, you get the point ). All the casinos care about is the amount of your wagers and the length of time spent making those wagers. It's that simple. Of course, the more you lose, the more the casinos will love you. If you meet these few basic requirements, then all sorts of "nice offers" should come your way; and not because you are of a particular ethnicity.

paladingamingllc <paladingamingllc@yahoo.com> wrote: --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Toga Royal <togaroyal@...> wrote:
>
> Do I sense some sort of prejudices against the Asian population?
Tell me I'm wrong.
>

Actually, it's more jealousy. I'd love to get some of the deals Asian
players get, because they're Asian, or for that matter, be able to run
cards through for every living and dead member of my family, including
pets.

Why would you think this?

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[vpFREE] Re: Their getting viscious in Reno

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Toga Royal <togaroyal@...> wrote:
>
> Do I sense some sort of prejudices against the Asian population?
Tell me I'm wrong.
>

Actually, it's more jealousy. I'd love to get some of the deals Asian
players get, because they're Asian, or for that matter, be able to run
cards through for every living and dead member of my family, including
pets.

Why would you think this?

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[vpFREE] Re: gambling taxes

> What is this statement called and how do you go about getting
one? I
> was expecting a few 1099-MISCs and did not receive them.
Obviously I'd
> be including the income regardless of whether they were filed or
not,
> but by not listing it as 1099-MISC and instead lumping it with all
the
> other wins throughout the year, it might look as if I didn't
include it.
>
> Also, do casinos send in forms for cash back?
>
> Thanks!
>
1. It's easier than it used to be. Just tromp on down to the local
IRS orifice and ask for a summary of reported income. Bring
identification. You can also request this via certified mail (you
may have to notarize it), but that's slower. Keep in mind that they
can be as much as 3 months behind, so if the summary doesn't include
something that happened at the end of last year, that's probably
why; just include it in your filing.

2. It's not a bad idea to attach a summary of all your 1099's and W-
2G's to your return.

3. Casinos don't report cashback unless you exceed the $1200
threshold for any one redemption, and if you play that heavily, the
IRS already has an entire local office named after you anyway.

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[vpFREE] Is the overall trend to heavily exploit the locals' market?

I'm inferring that Vegas is starting to feel the pinch, as debt puts
the brakes on the economy, but also as the predatory gouging
practices of the casinos are coming home to roost: you can't triple
the price of everything, make the gambling eight times worse, and
expect people to keep on coming back for their regularly scheduled
beatings.

This makes we wonder about the "locals'" market. In a way, Vegas
locals are a captive audience. Many are locked into shrinking-equity
traps, with rising mortgage payments cutting into their
discretionary (i.e., gambling) income. Many people cashed out and
bought a nice house in Vegas on easy terms during the boom,
expecting to kick back and golf and gamble until they croaked. For
most, it's still possible to maintain that lifestyle, but many are
simply stuck in Vegas whether they like it any longer or not.

So I am speculating whether this dynamic is what's driving the
recent Stations/Coast/Boyd shift to a "loyal locals" strategy. They
all gutted their slot clubs, replaced them with something far, far
worse (except for all you $25 Hundred-Play VP authors), and then
pumped "incentives" back into the system that make playing there
ALMOST as decent as it was before. Almost. This happened so
simultaneously that it smacks of collusion, but the upshot is that
there are now EXTREME reasons to play at Casino X and KEEP PLAYING
THERE. No more of this "let's go down to Platinum Palace, they have
triple points today"; if you haven't been making sacrifice to the
Platinum Palace all along, you ain't gonna GET no steenkin' triple
points. This prevents locals from cherry-picking promos, or at least
encourages them to pump up their monthly (or 90-day) play to meet
the ever-increasing requirements for mailers and to attain and
maintain Plutonium or Demi-God or whatever status is necessary to
get a decent deal.

I would think that it might be a good idea to maintain a database of
the latest requirements for mailers, point multipliers, etc. for
Stations/Fiestas, Boyd/Coast, AZ Chuckies, Palms, etc.,
independently of the sporadic and not very timely updates to the
existing database. This will help locals plan their play, as it's
evident that the only counterstrategy available against this new
casino tactic is to know EXACTLY what it takes to get what, and
measure that against the EV of the best plays.

This supplementary database could also contain info for the visitor,
specifically the very vital info of whether or not they penalize non-
locals.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Their getting viscious in Reno (XVP)


That would be "viscous."

At least the OP got "getting," "in," and "Reno" right. Hey, three out of
five!

That's more than half the country. :-)

Brian

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By the way, the title of this thread could be read as "they're getting
sticky and gooey in Reno"---maybe they are?!

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[vpFREE] Re: Their getting viscious in Reno

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Toga Royal <togaroyal@...> wrote:
>
> Do I sense some sort of prejudices against the Asian population?
Tell me I'm wrong.

You're wrong.

Glad to help, especially in these PC-paranoid days, where someone can
get fired from a job they've held for twelve years by referring to an
18-year-old black track athlete as a "boy".

By the way, the title of this thread could be read as "they're getting
sticky and gooey in Reno"---maybe they are?!

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Their getting viscious in Reno

Do I sense some sort of prejudices against the Asian population? Tell me I'm wrong.



paladingamingllc <paladingamingllc@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "VpKing77" <vpking77@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:

> What do you expect when people are running multiple cards and picking
> up freeplay for the entire civilizations of the Phillipines, Vietnam
> and Thailand.

Don't forget China, either. That's a slightly larger pool to deal with.

In Vegas when you run 6 people every 8 hours for 2 days through on
your card playing VBJ, it's called "winning a points challenge". I had
a different word for it, but I guess I'm in error.

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[vpFREE] Re: No Gold Coast offers to out of staters??

> ... The Stratosphere is very generous with room offers, as are the
> Plaza, Main Street Station, and El Cortez downtown--all of those
> have good- to-excellent VP. Check the database for specifics.

On 20 Feb 2008 at 8:12, christine gallegos asked:

> ... By checking database, do you mean database on this site?
> I'm a newbie, so bear with me.

He was referring to the vpFREE LV DataBase. Here's the Las
Vegas Index and Summary:

http://members.cox.net/vpfree/LV.htm

Click on any casino name there to see the details for that casino.

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[vpFREE] Re: XVP: THE MATHEMATICS OF GAMBLING by Dr. Edward O. Thorp

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bdancer@...> wrote:
>
>
> B Glazer wrote: I'm pretty sure I've heard reports of Thorp's death
a
> few years ago, so one can expect some difficulty in getting his
> permission to use any of the work
>
> Nope. He's still alive. (or at least Google thinks so too.) He's an
> amazing man, actually. I strongly recommend the book "Fortune's
Formula"
> by William Poundstone, relatively light reading which talks about
the
> relationship between gambling and investing. Thorp figures
prominently
> in this book.
>
>
> Bob Dancer
>
> For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video
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> computer trainer ever invented, go to //www.videopokerforwinners.com
>

Bob: Amen to your post on this topic. The Poundstone book is really
outstanding but those that are a bit technically inclined. I found
it hard to put down the book. Denny

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[vpFREE] Scot Krause's VEGAS VALUES - 24 FEB 2008

http://tinyurl.com/74o2

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http://tinyurl.com/74o2</a>

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This link is posted for informational purposes and doesn't
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content by vpFREE. Any discussion of the article must be done
in accordance with vpFREE's rules and policies.

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[vpFREE] Re: gambling taxes

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Jorgensen" <gregjor@...> wrote:
>
> You can ask the IRS for a statement showing what has been reported for
> you. If you have multiple W-2s or 1099s you'll probably find it
> reasonably accurate, but it may be missing some things. If you think
> you lost a 1099 or aren't sure what a casino might have reported, just
> ask.
>

What is this statement called and how do you go about getting one? I
was expecting a few 1099-MISCs and did not receive them. Obviously I'd
be including the income regardless of whether they were filed or not,
but by not listing it as 1099-MISC and instead lumping it with all the
other wins throughout the year, it might look as if I didn't include it.

Also, do casinos send in forms for cash back?

Thanks!

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[vpFREE] Re: Their getting viscious in Reno

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "VpKing77" <vpking77@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:

> What do you expect when people are running multiple cards and picking
> up freeplay for the entire civilizations of the Phillipines, Vietnam
> and Thailand.

Don't forget China, either. That's a slightly larger pool to deal with.

In Vegas when you run 6 people every 8 hours for 2 days through on
your card playing VBJ, it's called "winning a points challenge". I had
a different word for it, but I guess I'm in error.

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Re: [vpFREE] No Gold Coast offers to out of staters??

We play at the GC about every 3 months or so. . . . .and get about
one mailing a week. I am out of town, also. . . . midwest.

Jean H--

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself any direction you choose.
You're on your own. And you know what you know.
And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go.... Dr. Seuss

----- Original Message ----
From: christine gallegos <gallegoschris@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:06:57 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] No Gold Coast offers to out of staters??

Hi, I am quite new to vpFREE. Am enjoying greatly the posts and the group, since I love Vegas and am getting the poker strategy down! Whoo hoo. I cannot remember who posted earlier about comps and mailings. But it was mentioned that folks from out of state do not get mailings from Gold Coast. Is that really true? We are staying there for the first time next week and hopefully generate some offers our way for the future. I know that every hotel/casino has their own secret marketing. But why would GC not offer to non-locals? We live in AZ and it is quite easy for us to zip up there. Just wondered. Anyone have any ideas? We are low to medium rollers and I am really looking to get some offers .

Thanks for any input,

Chris

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