RE: [vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

<<You need to put a lot of thought into how you plan to move your money,
assuming you're not just going to retire in Mexico. Nersesian just had a
case where some gamblers had their roll and pocket cash confiscated by DEA
in Atlanta, he talked about it on Dancer's radio show.>>

I'm not sure I understand the issue. Isn't the money online? There's no
transporting of cash necessary.

Cogno

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I caught signage at South Point the other day indicating 2X VP points on
Mondays in April. "Multiplier Mondays." Typical multipliers on reels as
well. On my way out and had no time to go get verification.

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bradr19" <briffel@...> wrote:
>
> The blinds exist because Omaha and Texas hold 'em are frequently played without antes, allowing a player to fold his hand without placing a bet. The blind bets introduce a regular cost to take part in the game, thus inducing a player to enter pots in an attempt to compensate for that expense.
>
Texas Holdem is a fight for the blind money.

I used to play the 10-20 games at the Horseshoe and the Mirage. Of course you know that when you sit down in a game you either have to post a big blind or wait until the big blind gets to you....or you can wait until the blinds pass and post in 9th position, which most players do.

This rule of having to post or wait for the big blind was instituted because of a move by David Sklansky. Before the rule was instituted Sklansky would sit down in a game and look at cards until the big blind got to him. Then he would get up and look for an open seat at another table. When he found one he would again look at cards until the big blind got to him, then get up and look for a seat at another table, etc., etc. Sklansky never posted any blinds. LOL! When they got enough of his shenanigans they instituted the posting rule.

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> You need to put a lot of thought into how you plan to move your money, assuming you're not just going to retire in Mexico. Nersesian just had a case where some gamblers had their roll and pocket cash confiscated by DEA in Atlanta, he talked about it on Dancer's radio show.
>
Prepaid Debit Cards.

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Ed Miller <ed.miller@...> wrote:
> The other thing about it is that if you have the skillset to beat it, you
> can just rent a beachside condo in Mexico and play on Pokerstars to your
> heart's content and never have to worry about heat. If you are an unknown
> name, you'll get all the action you can handle on Stars until you've made
> quite a lot of money.

You need to put a lot of thought into how you plan to move your money, assuming you're not just going to retire in Mexico. Nersesian just had a case where some gamblers had their roll and pocket cash confiscated by DEA in Atlanta, he talked about it on Dancer's radio show.

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

There's a four raise cap, so a 20-40 game ($10 machine) has a max pot of $1000. Casinos can put machines into a special mode to get around the W2G lockup problem, but I don't know if that is available or not on this machine. IGT could fix it so that the machine doesn't steal the button on taxables, but maybe they like that feature. The button should just go back and forth anyway, sure certain people will play off any left button hands, but someone's gonna play that button anyway. My guess is that IGT considers the button stealing to be part of the hold/rake of the machine, player beware I guess. Initially they had a "feature" where it was hard to turn off the side bet, or the side bet would turn itself on, I imagine gaming said NEIN to that one. They should really make that side bet progressive, or better yet put in a bad beat type bet. Also as the guy on the radio show pointed out, you have to be careful with the size of your cashout ticket, and if you're playing for comp don't leave any comp balance on your card, the casinos will steal that, but most slot players already know about that. Oh and don't forget to put Nersesian's number on your cellphone, you know, just in case it gets ugly.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Ed Miller <ed.miller@...> wrote:
>
> I don't mean to suggest that the bot is not potentially vulnerable. Sure it
> is. Virtually any game in a casino is potentially beatable, and rake-free
> poker is a big flashing sign "come beat me."
>
> But poker seems to trick people into thinking that they know what they're
> doing when they really have no clue. I saw a little bit of that in this
> thread, hence my comments. If you think you know how to play heads-up limit
> hold'em and exploit the bot, but you haven't played even 100,000 hands of
> online heads-up limit hold'em, then I'd guess 999 out of 1000 you're
> kidding yourself.
>
> The problem I've heard with the bot is that if you play big enough that
> pots start getting to W-2G threshold, it steals the button on every W2-G
> and now it's very hard to beat. So there's a cap on how big you can play it.
>
> The other thing about it is that if you have the skillset to beat it, you
> can just rent a beachside condo in Mexico and play on Pokerstars to your
> heart's content and never have to worry about heat. If you are an unknown
> name, you'll get all the action you can handle on Stars until you've made
> quite a lot of money.
>
> Mickey. Online poker is returning to the USA, and we should have it here in
> Nevada by the end of the year. I think the games in Nevada will be a decent
> opportunity, but IMO it's an inevitability that it will come to California.
> When that happens, money will rain from the heavens for some length of
> time. I plan to drop everything and spend some quality time on the beach
> when that happens, and it seems like it might be an opportunity you might
> be interested in also. The willingness to spend the time to
> reverse-engineer what your opponents are doing is the #1 thing required to
> get good at poker, IMO. (That, plus the right mindset to interpret what
> you're seeing and find counter-strategies.)
>
> Oh, and it's hard to get people to play heads-up live in a casino, but I've
> managed a few times, and they basically just fold away their buy-in to you
> within about 15 minutes. Unfortunately, I've never had one rebuy, but maybe
> I'm not obnoxious enough.
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Mickey <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas V" <tringlomane@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Everyone should listen to what Ed Miller wrote. If you are not an
> > >expert at Heads-Up Limit Hold 'Em (and playing 6-max is NOT Heads-Up),
> > >the machine will crush you. It is simply a beast that will never quit.
> > >
> > >
> > I can't help myself. I'm always trying to think up ways to exploit a
> > situation. And I think we have an exploitable situation with this poker
> > bot. I'm not gonna do it myself. I'm pushing 60 years old, secluded in
> > Montana, and enjoy a very high hourly rate off the machines here. I just
> > mosey around everyday and pick the money off. But for you young guns out
> > there still trying to take on the world, this is what I would do if I were
> > you. It comes from an old Johnny Moss story from the fifties.
> >
> > One day a $400-$800 California Lowball game broke out at the Desert Inn.
> > They were putting lots of money on the table everyday. Guys were coming in
> > with cardboard boxes full of money. Moss wanted to tag the game. But he had
> > a problem. He had never played California Lowball before. What to do? What
> > to do? What to do?
> >
> > He flew to California and sat in with the Little Old Ladies of Gardena who
> > played $10-20 California Lowball everyday. They were reputed to be the
> > toughest Lowball players in the whole state. Moss sat in the games for a
> > week. He learned every move them little old ladies had. Then he flew back
> > to Vegas and the Desert Inn $400-$800 game. It took him three weeks to
> > break the game.
> >
> > I've never played head up limit holdem. But I've seen it many times,
> > usually at night, at the Horseshoe. Two guys would get into it and
> > challenge each other to a head up game. The house would deal the game with
> > a discounted rake, usually $2, because they were cranking out many more
> > hands per hour. And it was usually a $20-$40 game.
> >
> > If I were a young gun today I would use that poker bot to make me battle
> > tough at heads up play. I would play the cheapest game, the .50-$1 game. I
> > would reverse engineer every hand that bot played. The reason that bot wins
> > is because he is causing human beings to make incorrect decisions. I would
> > learn every move that bot has. Once I feel like I've learned enough, that
> > I'm tough enough, I'm gonna march right into the poker rooms of Las Vegas
> > and sit in the ring games. And when the timing is right, I'm gonna rope
> > people into heads up play.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: wi fi in laughlin

 

Just a thought. There's always lots of questions about where the Wi-Fi is in the casinos and cities. We're always travelling and we use a Verizon hotspot. Never had any trouble, it works just about everywhere, and we never have to wonder where the Wi-Fi is.

----- Reply message -----
From: "Bob" <bob972@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: wi fi in laughlin
Date: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 7:19 am
My casino host at the Aquarius told me that even though Starbucks is closed, there's still wi-fi at a couple of the surrounding restaurants.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jasnow@...> wrote:

>

> is there still wifi in laughlin at aquarious now that starbucks is gone?

> any wifi at harrahs or any where else?

>

> Thanks

> JAS

>

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas V" <tringlomane@...> wrote:
>
> The button is the SB and button preflop. He will act first preflop and last postflop.
>

Not exactly:

The blinds are forced bets posted by players to the left of the dealer button in flop-style poker games. The number of blinds is usually two, but it can range from none to three.

The small blind is placed by the player to the left of the dealer button and the big blind is then posted by the next player to the left. The one exception is when there are only two players (a "heads-up" game), when the player on the button is the small blind, and the other player is the big blind. (Both the player and the bet may be referred to as big or small blind.)

After the cards are dealt, the player to the left of the big blind is the first to act during the first betting round. If all players call the big blind, the big blind is then given an extra opportunity to raise. This is known as a live blind. If the live blind checks, the betting round then ends.

Generally, the "big blind" is equal to the minimum bet. The "small blind" is normally half the big blind. In cases where posting exactly half the big blind is impractical due to the big blind being some odd-valued denomination, the small blind is rounded down to the nearest practical value. For example, if the big blind in a live table game is $3 then the small blind will usually be $1 or $2 since most casinos do not distribute large quantities of $0.50 poker chips.

The blinds exist because Omaha and Texas hold 'em are frequently played without antes, allowing a player to fold his hand without placing a bet. The blind bets introduce a regular cost to take part in the game, thus inducing a player to enter pots in an attempt to compensate for that expense.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: wi fi in laughlin

 

McDonald's at 2900 casino drive would be inside Harrah's.  If there's a signal there, it's news to me.  jiwire might assume that all MacDonalds's have a signal, but they sometimes don't (especially in casinos).
 
I'm pretty sure the McDonald's across the river in Bullhead City does have a signal.  Not too far to go, right across from Edgewater.
 
On my last visit I could not get a signal at Subway or McDonalds in Aquarius (former location of Starbucks).
 
The outlet mall has a free signal in the food court.
 
I think that little bar in front of Harrah's, Old Town, used to have a signal, not sure about this one.
 
There is nice an independent coffee shop in Laughlin's business district with a free signal.  Open limited hours, 8am-2pm, closed Sundays.  Just past the library, next to Adalpe's supermarket (same building where the old coffee shop/travel agency used to be).  Good coffee & food.  They could use some support, business is not good.
 
Avi has free internet, they give the password to hotel guests.  For a long time it was username "casino" and password "guest" if I remember right, it never seemed to change.  You can catch the signal all over the property (food court, etc).
 
At the Riverside, I noticed that their paid internet system is a little cheaper than the others (maybe $8 for 24 hours, and I think it was only about $20 for a week) and it doesn't seem to be limited to hotel guests.  You just open your browser, input credit info, choose a username & password, no hotel info required.
 
On my last 2 trips, I was unable to get a decent signal from my hotspot phone while staying at Colorado Belle (low room facing the river) or Edgewater (high room facing the river).  I had enough signal for phone calls, and the indicator showed 4 bars, but web access was slow or not at all.  They couldn't be blocking it, could they?  Maybe I should try a room facing west.


________________________________
From: tomflush <tomflush@nyc.rr.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: wi fi in laughlin


 

if you go to http://v4.jiwire.com/search-wifi-hotspots.htm?city_id=3448838,
it will list about 25 sites ( some free ) in the area.
Looking over the list , I notice that the Mcdonalds at 2900 S casino drive
is one of your best free choices.
regards...Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "the7thwarrior" <mailto:Judy%40realtor.com>
To: <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:42 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: wi fi in laughlin

> You can always go to the public library.
> They even have computers you can use.
>
> --- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, "John" <jasnow@...> wrote:
>>
>> is there still wifi in laughlin at aquarious now that starbucks is gone?
>> any wifi at harrahs or any where else?
>>
>> Thanks
>> JAS

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

I don't mean to suggest that the bot is not potentially vulnerable. Sure it
is. Virtually any game in a casino is potentially beatable, and rake-free
poker is a big flashing sign "come beat me."

But poker seems to trick people into thinking that they know what they're
doing when they really have no clue. I saw a little bit of that in this
thread, hence my comments. If you think you know how to play heads-up limit
hold'em and exploit the bot, but you haven't played even 100,000 hands of
online heads-up limit hold'em, then I'd guess 999 out of 1000 you're
kidding yourself.

The problem I've heard with the bot is that if you play big enough that
pots start getting to W-2G threshold, it steals the button on every W2-G
and now it's very hard to beat. So there's a cap on how big you can play it.

The other thing about it is that if you have the skillset to beat it, you
can just rent a beachside condo in Mexico and play on Pokerstars to your
heart's content and never have to worry about heat. If you are an unknown
name, you'll get all the action you can handle on Stars until you've made
quite a lot of money.

Mickey. Online poker is returning to the USA, and we should have it here in
Nevada by the end of the year. I think the games in Nevada will be a decent
opportunity, but IMO it's an inevitability that it will come to California.
When that happens, money will rain from the heavens for some length of
time. I plan to drop everything and spend some quality time on the beach
when that happens, and it seems like it might be an opportunity you might
be interested in also. The willingness to spend the time to
reverse-engineer what your opponents are doing is the #1 thing required to
get good at poker, IMO. (That, plus the right mindset to interpret what
you're seeing and find counter-strategies.)

Oh, and it's hard to get people to play heads-up live in a casino, but I've
managed a few times, and they basically just fold away their buy-in to you
within about 15 minutes. Unfortunately, I've never had one rebuy, but maybe
I'm not obnoxious enough.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Mickey <mickeycrimm@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas V" <tringlomane@...> wrote:
> >
> > Everyone should listen to what Ed Miller wrote. If you are not an
> >expert at Heads-Up Limit Hold 'Em (and playing 6-max is NOT Heads-Up),
> >the machine will crush you. It is simply a beast that will never quit.
> >
> >
> I can't help myself. I'm always trying to think up ways to exploit a
> situation. And I think we have an exploitable situation with this poker
> bot. I'm not gonna do it myself. I'm pushing 60 years old, secluded in
> Montana, and enjoy a very high hourly rate off the machines here. I just
> mosey around everyday and pick the money off. But for you young guns out
> there still trying to take on the world, this is what I would do if I were
> you. It comes from an old Johnny Moss story from the fifties.
>
> One day a $400-$800 California Lowball game broke out at the Desert Inn.
> They were putting lots of money on the table everyday. Guys were coming in
> with cardboard boxes full of money. Moss wanted to tag the game. But he had
> a problem. He had never played California Lowball before. What to do? What
> to do? What to do?
>
> He flew to California and sat in with the Little Old Ladies of Gardena who
> played $10-20 California Lowball everyday. They were reputed to be the
> toughest Lowball players in the whole state. Moss sat in the games for a
> week. He learned every move them little old ladies had. Then he flew back
> to Vegas and the Desert Inn $400-$800 game. It took him three weeks to
> break the game.
>
> I've never played head up limit holdem. But I've seen it many times,
> usually at night, at the Horseshoe. Two guys would get into it and
> challenge each other to a head up game. The house would deal the game with
> a discounted rake, usually $2, because they were cranking out many more
> hands per hour. And it was usually a $20-$40 game.
>
> If I were a young gun today I would use that poker bot to make me battle
> tough at heads up play. I would play the cheapest game, the .50-$1 game. I
> would reverse engineer every hand that bot played. The reason that bot wins
> is because he is causing human beings to make incorrect decisions. I would
> learn every move that bot has. Once I feel like I've learned enough, that
> I'm tough enough, I'm gonna march right into the poker rooms of Las Vegas
> and sit in the ring games. And when the timing is right, I'm gonna rope
> people into heads up play.
>
>
>


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[vpFREE] Re: wi fi in laughlin

 

My casino host at the Aquarius told me that even though Starbucks is closed, there's still wi-fi at a couple of the surrounding restaurants.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jasnow@...> wrote:
>
> is there still wifi in laughlin at aquarious now that starbucks is gone?
> any wifi at harrahs or any where else?
>
> Thanks
> JAS
>

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