Re: [vpFREE] Re: wendover downgrades

 

Too much competition in Reno. That is the problem with Wendover. The same
company owns all of the big joints. No competition.


In a message dated 5/7/2013 3:47:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bob972@yahoo.com writes:

One might wonder if the Peppermill in Reno might be next.

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> AFTER CHECKING THE THREE CASIONS THAT PARTICPAT IN THE WENDOVER FLIGHTS
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[vpFREE] Re: Check out DailyTech - Man May be Sent to Prison for Exploiting Firmware Bug i

 

> The guy cheated the casinos. His original bets would have never been able to win the amounts he took.

You are making a large assumption with this statement Rob. I think it is interesting that neither the casinos or Gaming did not feel there was a malfunction that voided the pays- this guy got paid. I think if this was tampering with the machine in some way, then Gaming would have pursued enforcement- it does not appear they did.

If it were me, the first time was an accident and I may or may not report it. If I made the miracle win happen a second time and then tried to exploit the game in an unintended manner that is when it crosses the line to me. And those wins could drive paytables down further or have the game removed because it wasn't profitable, so that is when it crosses the line. Burning through a play, perhaps?

As a college freshman video games- in arcades- were popular- I learned a trick on game called Star Castle. I played for over 6 hours, just to see if the score went to 1,000,000 or rolled over to zero again. When it got to 1,000,000, it kept going. We (I couldn't play 6 hours straight by myself!) had over 400 ships left to play- we could have played it forever- or until they closed the arcade. I never played the game again- why would I need to- I had mastered it. Was I cheating the machine? There is a fine line between cheating and taking advantage of a flaw. I think in this case, once they continued to do it and developed a strategy to take advantage of it they crossed the line.

The question is- what would Mickey Crimm have done?

Just my .02- Thanks, Lee.

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[vpFREE] Steve Del Nero

 

From John: Arrangements for Steve have been finalized. Viewing and Services will be at the Palm Mortuary, 7400 West Cheyenne on Wednesday. Viewing at noon and services at 1:00.
Thank you to all who replied to my first post. Your kind remarks were deeply appreciated.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Check out DailyTech - Man May be Sent to Prison for Exploiting Firmware Bug i

Have you ever lost a good hand because the button sticks for the first time? Can I get my money? Did the casino cheat me by not keeping the machines in good working order? This is the social compact that it should be in good order.




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From: rob.singer1111@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 12:57:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Check out DailyTech - Man May be Sent to Prison for Exploiting Firmware Bug i





The guy cheated the casinos. His original bets would have never been able to win the amounts he took. If he had an error in his favor at his bank because of a computer glitch and took the money, he'd be required by law to return it. This is not taking advantage of a casino game like card counting is. And what kind of attorney would defend such a creep?

Prison awaits.

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> _Click here: DailyTech - Man May be Sent to Prison for Exploiting Firmware

> Bug in Poker Machine_

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[vpFREE] Re: wendover downgrades

 

One might wonder if the Peppermill in Reno might be next.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nenapapa2001" <nenapapa2001@...> wrote:
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> AFTER CHECKING THE THREE CASIONS THAT PARTICPAT IN THE WENDOVER FLIGHTS THEY ARE NOW A VP WASTELAND 95 TO 97%
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[vpFREE] Re: Check out DailyTech - Man May be Sent to Prison for Exploiting Firmware Bug i

 

When gamblers take advantage of machine programming errors, we now have to be worried about the Federal government doing the bidding of the casinos?

I remember when the Hilton had the pickem's theo/points setup as if they were slot machines. Same thing at the Rampart when they first opened. Federal offenses?

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> Because he went to many casinos, it at first seemed wrong to me. But the casinos have changed the payback on games at many casinos. So he just gave them payback.
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> That said, I have no empathy for the charged individual. His exploit, at heart, amounts to theft. Chalk it up to an opportunity of negligence by the mfr and/or casino,if you will. That in no way excuses taking advantage of the lapse to fill one's pockets.
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> - H.
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[vpFREE] wendover downgrades

 

AFTER CHECKING THE THREE CASIONS THAT PARTICPAT IN THE WENDOVER FLIGHTS THEY ARE NOW A VP WASTELAND 95 TO 97%

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