[vpFREE] Re: FVP & Windows Vista

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dawne_gordon" wrote:

> I installed FVP version 1 on a new laptop and cannot find where to
> get software update. Copying update from previous computer did
> not work. FVP works, except for Help, but I no longer have PE.
> I've tried checking messages here and websites that I thought would
> work but no success. Any suggestions?

You can get the last FVP update at...
http://www.wolfvideopoker.com/FVP.htm

The help won't work on Vista because they no longer support WinHlp32.
However, you can still install it on your PC. It is non-invasive and
I'm sure you have many other older programs that will need it.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607

Installing the FVP update can also be tricky. Be sure you log in with
administrator privaleges. Vista will be in the background fighting
the installation. What you do is run the patch. Before you answer any
patch dialogue, look for a behind the scenes Vista query asking if it
is ok to install the program. If you jump ahead and try to let the
patch do its thing, it may not install right.

I will always support FVP in any way I can. However, there will be no
new updates, as that VP engine has passed away, replaced by the more
powerful Wolf Video Poker.

Best regards,
Jim Wolf
James Wolf Software

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software on the market
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[vpFREE] Re: Hypothetical casino smoking ban (XVP)...

As long as we're speaking hypothetically, let's say you are a
European or East Asian whale that has been smoking all your life
(which is not uncommon). Are you going to stop coming to Vegas and
start frequenting casinos in other countries that allow smoking? I
would guess that if you have the money to be a whale, you are used to
getting what you want, so will go to places that let you smoke. You
will probably prefer not to go to a casino that makes your decisions
for you. Even if you know that smoking is bad for you, you might
feel you don't need a baby sitter to prohibit you from doing
dangerous things, especially if you are here to indulge in gambling,
drinking, and philandering, all of which can be unhealthy. I
believe the perception of Vegas especially in other countries is that
it is an adult playground where you can indulge in whatever you
want. Change this to "you can indulge in whatever you want, but oh
wait, you can't smoke," and I think you lose certain tourists, some
of whom have a huge impact on the casino's bottom line.

My guess is that the loss of just one of these multi-million-dollar
whales far outweighs an influx of tens of thousands of small-time non-
smokers rejoicing in their smoke-free environment. Now one could say
that a casino might offer private environments that allow whales to
smoke, but your original post does say "no ifs, ands, or butts." One
could also say that a non-smoking policy might attract new non-
smoking whales, but a smoking casino could easily offer private non-
smoking environments for them, whereas a non-smoking casino could not
do the same for a smoking whale. Basically a smoking casino has the
freedom and ability to accomodate both types, whereas a non-smoking
casino is limited. I would think this type of scenario would weigh
heavily in a casino's decision.

So while your impromptu poll might indicate the impact a non-smoking
policy would have on the average joe. It does not give voice to that
very small group who in the real world have a much larger "voice"
than the throngs of average joes put together. So while I am not
invalidating your poll, I don't think to be representative of "what
would really happen."

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, bjaygold@... wrote:
>
> I'm trying to wrap my head around what would really happen,
business-wise,
> if casinos were to completely ban smoking.
>
> Let's say as of tomorrow, smoking in all forms will be banned in
all casinos
> everywhere. Period. No ifs, ands, or butts.
>
> Let's also say that this is the ONLY change made. The casinos keep
the same
> paytables, rules, promos, games, etc.
>
> For you SMOKERS, based solely on the smoking ban, would you:
>
> S1: Play the same as you did before.
> S2: Play slightly less than you did before.
> S3: Play substantially less than you did before.
> S4: Quit playing in casinos.
>
> For you NONSMOKERS, based solely on the smoking ban, would you:
>
> N1: Play the same as you did before.
> N2: Play slightly more than you did before.
> N3: Play substantially more than you did before.
>
> All you have to do is respond with "S3," or any of the seven two-
character
> responses. Or comment as you please.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian (my response is N2)
>
>
>
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[vpFREE] Re: Check out Casino smoke ruling / Just pass the ban

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gamb00ler" <gamb00ler@...> wrote:
>
> mickeycrimm wrote:
>
> > So everyone you disagree with should keep their mouths shut?
> > Who did you say was ignorant? Have you ever read any of the
> > UNLV studies?
> >
> > Casino executives don't want to ban smoking for one reason.
> > Every serious study, not propaganda, study, they have read
> > shows a 10% loss of gaming win across the State of Nevada.
> > That's not a recession, sir, that's a depression--with
> > corresponding layoffs. They will ban smoking when the
> > cost/benefit analysis shows the lawsuits will cost them more
> > than the loss of revenue.
> >
> > The problem with you big mouth anti-smokers is all you
> > do is run your mouths. When the smoking bans kick in
> > you don't show up to support the businesses who lose
> > the smokers as customers. That's the reason for the
> > loss of revenue. Candy Asses. Stone cold candy asses.
>
> I have not read the UNLV studies, but I find mickeycrimm's
> analysis of casino management's thinking most likely to be
> accurate.
>
> However....
>
> mickeycrimm, are you suggesting that there is a moral
> obligation for anyone to support any business? I don't
> think that opinion will find much support on this forum
> or elsewhere for that matter. Also, I find your
> denegration of non-smokers for not supporting a
> business that obeys a smoking ban to be unwarranted.
>
> I find it much easier to support the opinion that everyone
> is morally justified in asserting their right to a workplace
> that is not unneccesarily dangerous to their health.
>
> Gamb00ler
>
I'm doing the denigrating? Do you have any idea of the insults I've
taken over the years? Even in the polite society of vpFREE smoking
ban proponents have layed their insults down. I find this quite
funny. I pop off one time after tolerating years of the lies, myths,
distortions by anti-smokers and now I'm the bad guy. RFLMAO!!!

All they have to do is be honest. I'm honest about it. Smoking is
bad for your health. Second hand smoke certainly can't be good for
your health. If someone says to me:

"I know the smoking ban hurts some businesses but that is the cost
we have to pay to protect our health."

I respect that opinion and that persons right to act on it
politically. At least they are intellectually honest. And if they
win on the issue, which I believe they will in the end, so be it. I
have nothing against these people.

But if one says to me "The smoking ban will not decrease but rather
will increase revenue" or "the smoking ban did not cause the loss of
revenue, they opened a casino in another state that took the
business" or "there's a recession" or "people are not vacationing
like they used to" or "people are gambling less" or any of the
various and sundry smoke and mirror reasons they will come up with
instead of admitting the one true cause of the loss of business, then
I have no respect for these people. They are intellectually
dishonest. They ignore hard evidence when it doesn't serve their
cause and spew propaganda instead.

You wanna see some hard evidence of what a smoking ban can do then
Google on Helena Smoking Ban.

Helena, Montana instituted a smoking ban that included bars/casinos.
These are small casinos. Up to 20 machines. You have to have a
liquor license to obtain a gaming license so the machines are either
in the bar or a room adjacent to the bar. There are about 20 of
these casinos in Helena.

The smoking ban lasted six months. During that time these
bar/casinos experienced a $5,000,000 shortfall in revenue. The
smoking ban was found unconstitutional for, of all reasons, the law
didn't provide for a jury trial for anyone accused of breaking it.

When the ban lifted revenue returned to pre-ban levels. That's hard
evidence.

If you are a smoking ban proponent, fine. I support you 110% in your
fight---as long as you are honest on the issue.

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[vpFREE] The Mathematics of a 52 Card Deck.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <fortywnks@...> wrote:
>
> Occasionally, a thread will contain references to different
statistical
> probabilities with assorted "holds" or odds for repeat
occurrences. Do
> any of you Math Wizards have a book or books you might point me
toward
> that would help me learn how to figure some of these things out
myself
> for fun? My last statistic course was 35 years ago and I have
slept
> way too many times since then to remember much.
> Thanks,
> Bill (40wnks)
>
I had a major problem with the code language of math when I first
started studying the mathematics of a 52 card deck. It was like
trying to crack a safe. But then I ran into a book by John Scarne
called "Scarne's Guide to Modern Poker." The book can be found in
many libraries around the country. Chapter 10 was called "The
Mathematics of Poker." It was a huge eye-opener for me.

He wrote all the equations without using code language. He starts
with how many 5-card combinations are in a 52 card deck. Then shows
the math for how many of those combinations make a RF, SF, 4K, FH,
FL, ST, 3K, 2P, One Pair, and even how many combinations make an Ace
High, King High, Queen High, Jack High.

I used his nice little clinic, and the logic of it, to teach myself
the rest.

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[vpFREE] Hypothetical casino smoking ban (XVP)...

I'm trying to wrap my head around what would really happen, business-wise,
if casinos were to completely ban smoking.

Let's say as of tomorrow, smoking in all forms will be banned in all casinos
everywhere. Period. No ifs, ands, or butts.

Let's also say that this is the ONLY change made. The casinos keep the same
paytables, rules, promos, games, etc.

For you SMOKERS, based solely on the smoking ban, would you:

S1: Play the same as you did before.
S2: Play slightly less than you did before.
S3: Play substantially less than you did before.
S4: Quit playing in casinos.

For you NONSMOKERS, based solely on the smoking ban, would you:

N1: Play the same as you did before.
N2: Play slightly more than you did before.
N3: Play substantially more than you did before.

All you have to do is respond with "S3," or any of the seven two-character
responses. Or comment as you please.

Thanks,
Brian (my response is N2)

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: AZ Charlie's Decatur Dining

At Sam's Town no. You have to get a comp from the players club. However the
sports deli and the Ice Cream yes they will swipe your card.
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In a message dated 2/15/2008 7:42:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ms_vpfree_3@yahoo.com writes:

I haven't tried this myself, but a recent mailer from
Arizona Charlie's Decatur says you can now use your
comp dollars at their Subway. They will swipe your
card right there.

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[vpFREE] Re: Check out Casino smoke ruling / Just pass the ban

mickeycrimm wrote:

> So everyone you disagree with should keep their mouths shut?
> Who did you say was ignorant? Have you ever read any of the
> UNLV studies?
>
> Casino executives don't want to ban smoking for one reason.
> Every serious study, not propaganda, study, they have read
> shows a 10% loss of gaming win across the State of Nevada.
> That's not a recession, sir, that's a depression--with
> corresponding layoffs. They will ban smoking when the
> cost/benefit analysis shows the lawsuits will cost them more
> than the loss of revenue.
>
> The problem with you big mouth anti-smokers is all you
> do is run your mouths. When the smoking bans kick in
> you don't show up to support the businesses who lose
> the smokers as customers. That's the reason for the
> loss of revenue. Candy Asses. Stone cold candy asses.

I have not read the UNLV studies, but I find mickeycrimm's
analysis of casino management's thinking most likely to be
accurate.

However....

mickeycrimm, are you suggesting that there is a moral
obligation for anyone to support any business? I don't
think that opinion will find much support on this forum
or elsewhere for that matter. Also, I find your
denegration of non-smokers for not supporting a
business that obeys a smoking ban to be unwarranted.

I find it much easier to support the opinion that everyone
is morally justified in asserting their right to a workplace
that is not unneccesarily dangerous to their health.

Gamb00ler

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[vpFREE] Re: (Fwd) Stations Casinos optimum plays

On 14 Feb 2008 at 16:51, jackessiebabe wrote:

> My question du jour is this; if the casinos have decided that belt-
> tightening is the order of the day, which would be your preference?
> That all VP machines confer one point for one dollar on inferior pay
> tables, or one point for four dollars on FP and Optimum pay tables?

> As a rec player, I prefer the better pay tables. I can easily
> understand however, that high denom. APs and pros might feel very
> differently.

I would probably prefer the one that gave me the better EV per hour.
If there wasn't much difference, I'd probably play the Optimum ones
because I would probably know the strategy better.

vpFae

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[vpFREE] Re: 2007 Gaming Report

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, RWHANNU@... wrote:
>
> In case no one else has posted this news article:
>
>
_http://www.elkodaily.com/articles/2008/02/14/news/breaking_news/pretz
el11.txt
> _
>
(http://www.elkodaily.com/articles/2008/02/14/news/breaking_news/pretz
el11.txt)
>
> All these big casino wins up here were before I switched to
Pick 'Em, of
> course.
>
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>
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>My wife and I were frequent flyers to Elko. The trip costs about
$100 total per person with three nights at the Red Lion or Gold
Country Hotels. We came in from Dallas. We figured when Mc Clasky
died there was a change in management, so the flights stopped. We did
notice the Wendover Casinos had taken over the Casino Express Airline
Flights. The only requirement was $300 show maney which was never
asked for. Great Trip.

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[vpFREE] Gold Coast and Orleans Updates

Gold Coast - They are making manual point adjustments
for those who played on 2/7, the 8x point day. You
must add your name to their list per the slot club.

Orleans - Another bank of 25c 3-play progressives with
9/7 Double Bonus and other games has been added. It's
between Terrible Mike's and Friday's with a big sign overhead.

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[vpFREE] Re: XVP - 3X Raise Hold'Em

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Eric <oddsworking@...> wrote:
>
> On his website The Wiz identifies The Mirage and Bellagio. The
> strategy for this is almost as easy as bac.
>

Anyone know if this is still being offered at The Mirage of Bellago?

With the huge house edge on side bets, I suspect casinos will rate play
at these games with a very high net theo. That mixed with the easy
strategy and low element of risk couid make this a decent play for comp
hunters. (i.e. the higher net theo rating could be worth more than the
amount of house advantage the player gives up from playing this over
BJ.)

With these two properties only offering decent vp in higher demons,
this game could be a good way to get some comps/offers from them.

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[vpFREE] Re: AZ Charlie's Decatur Dining

> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan O. Roemer"
> <public@...> wrote:
>
> Is there any place worth eating here? I've decided
> to stop playing there due to the atmosphere (i.e.,
> smelly), and I've got some comp dollars to use up.

I haven't tried this myself, but a recent mailer from
Arizona Charlie's Decatur says you can now use your
comp dollars at their Subway. They will swipe your
card right there.

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