Re: [vpFREE] Re: Prelude to Post of Dr. William G. McCown Q&A

 

dealt4oak wrote:

>I cant explain it any better than I have. Why would playing a lower pay table make me feel better?

Who knows? You wrote that you'd rather play Pai Gow than nothing.
Feelings are very unpredictable. Is there any reason the gain you see
in leaving a "cold" machine is necessarily less than the loss you see
in a lower paytable?

>Ive seen so called advantage players talk the talk and not play like they preach.

I agree. Misconceptions can easily co-exist with discipline. I try
to be as disciplined as I can and I've been at it for a long time, but
I still catch myself thinking such nonsensical things as "this machine
is running bad" when I know I should say "just ran."

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[vpFREE] Re: Southwest gift cards

 

The policy may have been different earlier, but 3 gift cards & a credit
card works. There were FOUR payment slots this weekend. The following is
copied from my confirmation:


Cost and Payment Summary

AIR -
Base Fare
$ 463.26
Excise Taxes
$ 34.74
Segment Fee
$ 22.80
Passenger Facility Charge
$ 16.50
September 11th Security Fee
$ 10.00
Total Air Cost
$ 547.30

Payment Information
Payment Type: Discover XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Date: Feb 24, 2012
Payment Amount: $247.30

Payment Type: Gift card Acct:8100000014096111
Date: Feb 24, 2012
Payment Amount: $100.00

Payment Type: Gift card Acct:8100000014096137
Date: Feb 24, 2012
Payment Amount: $100.00

Payment Type: Gift card Acct:8100000014095493
Date: Feb 24, 2012
Payment Amount: $100.00

Re the one-way being limited to 2 gift cards, I didn't try it but the
suggestion to go one-way to maximize gift cards came from Southwest & they
didn't mention a 2-card limit. It would be nice if someone were to try it &
report back. I still have a bunch of cards but they're already committed.


In a message dated 2/25/2012 10:07:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

_Southwest gift cards _
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/message/119565;_ylc=X3oDMTJzM3Q2dnBqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ2NDEwMTcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MD
Y1NzMyBG1zZ0lkAzExOTU2NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMjM2NDIw)
Posted by: "jim_mason7" _7711-jimmason@usa.net _
(mailto:7711-jimmason@usa.net?Subject= Re:%20Southwest%20gift%20cards) _jim_mason7 _
(http://profiles.yahoo.com/jim_mason7)
Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:55 pm (PST)

To clarify-

There are only 3 payment slots with South West.

If any gift card/fare credit does not over the total fare due on the 1st
payment slot, then a second gift card/fare credit can be used on the 2nd
payment slot. If there is still a balance due, the 3rd payment slot can be a
gift card/fare credit only if it covers the entire fare balance due.
Otherwise, you will need to use a credit card for the 3rd payment slot(and use you
gift card/credit on another ticket)
Buying one-way tickets allows you to use up more gift cards/fare credits.

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[vpFREE] Re: Spoofed Emails from me

 

"Frank" wrote:

> Someone that I've never emailed just emailed me and asked
> me to stop emailing them. I can only assume this is someone
> spoofing my email address.

It sounds like that email may have been from a new vpFREE
member who is getting individual group emails and thought
that your posts on vpFREE were being sent by you, to him.

vpFREE Administrator

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 26 FEB 2012

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 26 FEB 2012

"Senior Discounts – Not Just in Casinos"

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=1880

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Prelude to Post of Dr. William G. McCown Q&A

 

Tom Robertson wrote:

 There might be nothing wrong with changing machines, but there is something "wrong" with the misconceptions that can motivate it. If
it's all "one long session," why change machines if you "cant hit a quad after 1000+ hands?"

Top 10 reasons to change machines: (with apologies to David Letterman)
to take a break, to spend some quality time in the porcelain throne room, to move away from annoying drafts, players or smoke wafting into your eyes,
to stretch out from the seated position, to change the lighting pattern hitting the machine, to move from an upright to a slant top or vice versa, to have a different set of noises assaulting your eardrums, to move closer to or further from a significant other.
Any or all of which can just relax you, energize you and ensure that you will play as error-free as your training and skills will allow you.

Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein

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> From:  <007@embarqmail.com>
>To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Prelude to Post of Dr. William G. McCown Q&A
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> 
>dealt4oak wrote:
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>>There is nothing wrong with changing machines. If Im playing a non progressive and the next machine, or a machine on another bank, has the same full pay game I move because I just cant sit at the same machine for long periods of time. If it doesn't matter mathematically to change it shouldn't matter if I move to create a break or see some new scenery. Sometimes a good stretch is good enough but my back and ass thank me for moving around the casino. Cold and hot machines are part of the psychology of playing vp. I see no problem with making myself feel better about moving to a machine with the same game because I cant hit a quad after 1000+ hands. Full pay machines are full pay machines, its one long session.
>
>Didn't we just discuss this recently?
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[vpFREE] Barona in San Diego - Big win on Ultimate X!

 

Hi everyone. I don't post often, but I like reading the stories of good
gambling sessions and so I like to share mine as well. I know we all
feel like machines sometimes aren't playing fair when you're on the
underside of the long-term average curve, but then you have an amazing
session that brings you to the upperside of the long-term average curve
and you start to believe again.
Previously, I mentioned my best hour ever, hitting three royals on the
same single-line machine at Circus Circus Reno:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/message/105790
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/message/105790>
I had my single best hit ever on Friday night. I can't afford $1 play
within my bankroll and with the volatility of Ultimate X, a game which I
enjoy playing, I can only afford to play $0.10 triple play.
After sitting down, the person on my right, also playing dimes on a
single-line machine, hit a Royal Flush. I got Royal envy. Then, the
person sitting to my left got a Royal Flush playing nickels. I got even
more Royal Envy and was stating to my machine neighbors that everyone
around me was hitting royals.
Royal #14,000 dimes ($400), no multiplier. Held
three:http://yhoo.it/yHYbV4 <http://yhoo.it/yHYbV4>
Now I no longer had Royal Envy. I was a happy camper. I kept playing,
despite the man on my left who told me that I should leave now that I
hit a Royal Flush on the machine (despite the fact that he hit a Royal
Flush on his machine but was still playing on it). Well, I proved him
wrong.
Royal #28,000 dimes ($800), 2x multiplier. Held
three:http://yhoo.it/wDpvx3 <http://yhoo.it/wDpvx3>
Now my machine neighbors had Royal Envy!!! I had one more Royal Flush
than them! The man next to me really couldn't believe that I was still
playing the machine because I had surely taken all of the money out of
it. Well, I told him that actually, it had taken all of my money from
the first Royal Flush (I was down to $38 in credits it the machine when
I hit the second royal).
I kept playing because there was a hot seat promotion going on that
night. $2,000 awarded to one player every 20 minutes. I didn't
actually think I'd win, the entire place was packed with practically
every seat in the casino full. But it gave me a reason to stay longer
than usual. Luckily I did stay longer because...
Royal #348,000 dimes ($4,800), 12x multiplier. Held
three:http://yhoo.it/A4TlPN <http://yhoo.it/A4TlPN>

Ok, that was an amazing hit! I was honestly beside myself. I got the
biggest hit possible on one of these crazy machines. I was so excited.
It's my single biggest win ever. I've hit some $1 royals before, but
never as high as $4,800. I was ecstatic.
So hopefully stories like this remind everyone that there is an upside
that comes every so often that helps to smooth out the downside. I
realize it's luck, but it's long-term luck that keeps the game exciting.
--sdbravo
PS - I am not a shill for Barona casino, but they are really the
friendliest casino with the best service and best games in San Diego.
The service is impeccable - where else do an army of change people walk
around ASKING to cash your tickets? Where else can upper-tier players
press the service button to get a snack for free brought to your game?
They hand out trail mix, pretzels, and sometimes even full bags of
kettle corn. Their ATMs are free. They have good VP (you know the good
VP because auto hold is turned off). I would recommend taking a trip to
San Diego and visiting the casino while you're here. The hotel is also
exceptional. Lastly, remember to ask for CASH and FOOD comps. You'll
earn a measly amount of points for playing VP ($1 CI = 1 point / 1,000
points = $1 in free play or comps). But their hosts will comp you cash
and food just for asking. They told me it's based on the time and amount
played, among other things. YMMV.

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[vpFREE] Fiesta Update

 

Stopped by this morning around 5 AM and they added 4 more of the purple 99.8% machines to the tree circle by the gift shop. For those that like sequential royals GVR has a $1 9/5 DDB bank that's well over $100k for the elusive seq.

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[vpFREE] Re: Spoofed Emails from me

 

Until we get this sorted out here's a general rule of thumb. I have not sent personal email to anyone on this site that was not a reply to email they had sent me in as long as I can remember, if ever.

So if you did not email first and see email from me...IT'S NOT FROM ME!

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> Someone that I've never emailed just emailed me and asked me to stop emailing them. I can only assume this is someone spoofing my email address. If anyone knows anything about this please let me know by posting it here...thanks.
>
> ~FK
>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: DIAD (long and probably too much info for most)

 

I'd be a big fan of a $1 9/5 ( no tax forms possible ) jacks or better game
which paid $1199 for all straight flushes including the Royal Flush ! It
would be better for both the players and casino, which would benefit by many
'old school' players not altering their strategy, and less casino paperwork.
regards...Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Videopoker" <videopoker@hawaii.rr.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: DIAD (long and probably too much info for most)

If you have $100k of w-2's for gambling and $100k of income, that's $200k
AGI when the Medicare premium amount is calculated for "high earners".
If you claim $100k in losses, your net income is $100k because you have the
deduction for losses. Medicare does not recognize the losses! This really is
not a fair representation of your true income, and it really punishes
gamblers with w-2g's.

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[vpFREE] Re: Prelude to Post of Dr. William G. McCown Q&A

 

I cant explain it any better than I have. Why would playing a lower pay table make me feel better? I think you need to improve your critical thinking skills if you cant comprehend my explanation. Im not sure how anyone could be successful at gambling if they cannot comprehend simple explanations. Do you want a physical presentation of what I do and why, perhaps we can meet at GVR one of these days? Ive had this conversation with Kneeland and he understood it. Another point Id like to make is that I take what anyone says here with a grain of salt. Ive seen so called advantage players talk the talk and not play like they preach. I see them switching games, I see them switching machines or worse, playing sub par pay tables with nothing going on to make it a positive play. Ive talked with some of these players and it comes down to the mind games the machines play with people. There are some out there that are very disciplined but they are few and far between. Just look at the jackpot pics on this forum and others. Makes you wonder.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <007@...> wrote:
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> If changing machines to a lower paytable made you feel better, would
> you?
>
> dealt4oak wrote:
>
> >I answered that in the second to last sentence. It makes me feel better. If its the same pay scale no harm/no foul.
>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Prelude to Post of Dr. William G. McCown Q&A

 

I'm one who changes machines often and for reasons some may not agree with, but there is nothing more important than comfort and health--especially for the recreational players. Some of those chairs out there don't cut it, even for the relatively shorter period of time I'm in them compared to most.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

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From: "Tom Robertson" <007@embarqmail.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Prelude to Post of Dr. William G. McCown Q&A
Date: Sun, Feb 26, 2012 11:43 am
If changing machines to a lower paytable made you feel better, would

you?

dealt4oak wrote:

>I answered that in the second to last sentence. It makes me feel better. If its the same pay scale no harm/no foul.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Prelude to Post of Dr. William G. McCown Q&A

 

If changing machines to a lower paytable made you feel better, would
you?

dealt4oak wrote:

>I answered that in the second to last sentence. It makes me feel better. If its the same pay scale no harm/no foul.

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[vpFREE] Re: Prelude to Post of Dr. William G. McCown Q&A

 

I answered that in the second to last sentence. It makes me feel better. If its the same pay scale no harm/no foul. Im not sure why its so hard for people to understand. I gamble for enjoyment not to make a living or earn comps. If I hit well or earn a nice $100 dinner than so be it. I do play quite a lot so I would rather enjoy myself than be bored or flustered. I'm the type of person that doesn't like to sit in one spot too long. The only exception is a high progressive or there just isn't any other machines available. Id rather go home than sit at a machine that isn't hitting anything for several hours. There are days when I can hit 15-20 quads and some days its a struggle to get a few. I understand the long term and math and I play using correct strategy so at the end of the year I pretty much break even which covers my gambling habit. By the way I have been over royaled(I only play single line) for the last 6 years and my outcome is pretty close to the expected percentages. I would worry more about the people that play very shorted games as I will only play full pay VP. If that not available I head over to the Pai Gow table.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <007@...> wrote:
>
> dealt4oak wrote:
>
> >There is nothing wrong with changing machines. If Im playing a non progressive and the next machine, or a machine on another bank, has the same full pay game I move because I just cant sit at the same machine for long periods of time. If it doesn't matter mathematically to change it shouldn't matter if I move to create a break or see some new scenery. Sometimes a good stretch is good enough but my back and ass thank me for moving around the casino. Cold and hot machines are part of the psychology of playing vp. I see no problem with making myself feel better about moving to a machine with the same game because I cant hit a quad after 1000+ hands. Full pay machines are full pay machines, its one long session.
>
> Didn't we just discuss this recently?
>
> There might be nothing wrong with changing machines, but there is
> something "wrong" with the misconceptions that can motivate it. If
> it's all "one long session," why change machines if you "cant hit a
> quad after 1000+ hands?"
>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Prelude to Post of Dr. William G. McCown Q&A

 

dealt4oak wrote:

>There is nothing wrong with changing machines. If Im playing a non progressive and the next machine, or a machine on another bank, has the same full pay game I move because I just cant sit at the same machine for long periods of time. If it doesn't matter mathematically to change it shouldn't matter if I move to create a break or see some new scenery. Sometimes a good stretch is good enough but my back and ass thank me for moving around the casino. Cold and hot machines are part of the psychology of playing vp. I see no problem with making myself feel better about moving to a machine with the same game because I cant hit a quad after 1000+ hands. Full pay machines are full pay machines, its one long session.

Didn't we just discuss this recently?

There might be nothing wrong with changing machines, but there is
something "wrong" with the misconceptions that can motivate it. If
it's all "one long session," why change machines if you "cant hit a
quad after 1000+ hands?"

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: DIAD (long and probably too much info for most)

 

If you have $100k of w-2's for gambling and $100k of income, that's $200k AGI when the Medicare premium amount is calculated for "high earners".
If you claim $100k in losses, your net income is $100k because you have the deduction for losses. Medicare does not recognize the losses! This really is not a fair representation of your true income, and it really punishes gamblers with w-2g's.

From: rob.singer1111@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:55 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: DIAD (long and probably too much info for most)

I thank you for that clear info. One last question since you've been directly affected and I haven't been involved in SS income or Medicare yet: If you get $50,000 in W2G's this year and assuming you're a net winner of $10,000, about how much does that affect your Medicare payments?

I know I'm assuming much here, but I do look at players who receive W2G's as having won something after their losses are deducted. At least that's the way it has always been for me. But if a player gets a pile of W2G's and still loses by year's end, I'm guessing that does adversely affect those Medicare premiums, which in turn makes those jackpots not worth hitting. Am I on the right track?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

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From: "Jan Spornhauer" <mailto:janspornhauer%40sbcglobal.net>
To: <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: DIAD (long and probably too much info for most)
Date: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 1:55 pm
Rob

What he is talking about is the Medicare portion of SS. Medicare premiums

are adjusted based upon ones AGI. Mine have been impacted over the past 3

years because of significant W2 G's.

J. T.

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From: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

mailto:rob.singer1111%40yahoo.com

Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:33 PM

To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: DIAD (long and probably too much info for most)

How do SS payments change when you are getting W2G's? They are not figured

into the formula for determining how much a person receives for their SS

benefit unless you file as a business, ie, professional gambler. Are you

also working?

I know AGI affects people who get W2G's, but I've never heard of that making

a $4000 win translate it into costing them anything net.

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From: "mailto:lfcmja%40verizon.net <mailto:lfcmja%40verizon.net> "

I recently turned 65 and saw my SS benefits drop in spite of the recent cola

increase, due to a higher AGI caused by my casino W2G's.

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