[vpFREE] Re: A "Quick" Question ...

 

Taking a few minutes to bone up, what Bob suggests is true (no surprise there). Qq-ddb var is about on par with the base game , JB-QQ adds about a 10% boost.

Bear in mind 2 things ....

Absolute. $ swings will be another 20% stronger, simply reflecting the higher game wager (ignored in the variance stat).

Also, variance is a relatively weak measure of session volatility, but a strong measure of long term volatility. Look for QQ session volatility to be stronger than what the variance stat would suggest, simply because session results are far from "normally" distributed (i.e. The take a form strikingly diggerent than the smooth hump presumed of normally distributed data).

- H.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: A "Quick" Question ...

 

Hi Bob,
Ellis Island down-graded 9/6 JoB QQ.
4 of a kinds went from 236 to 125 coin and
are 2X max multiplier.
Also the NSU machines are Zero multiplier.
Regards,
Steve Pollack
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: A "Quick" Question ...

 

In human terms, you are trading off 20% more coin in for the privilege of
hitting quads about 2.7X faster than you normally would and with a better
quad payoff when you do ( for example 500/300/230 vs standard 400/200/125).
I have had success tackling this game using the 40/60/80 rule for session
bankroll, for example in this case ...low variance base game $1 triple play
bonus QQ.
40X$18 = $720, or for a mid variance game like DDB 60X18 = $1080. For Vegas,
Short pay versions of QQ rules, as I've only seen the full pays at South
Point and Green Valley Ranch. I would not recommend playing short-pays these
because quad droughts do happen, and those extra 5 coins back on the ST,
FL, FH really add up and keep you alive longer.
...best Tom

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: A "Quick" Question ...

Most analysts have concluded that the Quick Quads version has approximately the same variance as the base game. That is Ten Play 9/6 DDB Quick Quads has approximately the same variance as regular 9/6 DDB.

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[vpFREE] Re: A "Quick" Question ...

 

As "quick" reply, I'd envision that a game which which strips away 20% of the base game wager between quad hits to have reasonably steep variance.

in fact, by essentially reallocating approx 20% of the game return from non-quad hands to quad hits, I'd look for the multiline Jacks experience to be "quickened" to one approximating standard multiline DDB play.

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[vpFREE] A "Quick" Question ...

 

Hello.

There seems to be quite a lot of information available on the net with respect to Quick Quads, both pay tables and strategies. The EV on these games (with the 6th coin) is enhanced over that of the normal games. I have made a (very) quick and dirty search but have not been able to find any information on how the "variance" of these games is changed. Can someone point me in the proper direction?

Thanks.

..... bl

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