A couple of months ago, the machines where I play were shut down for
maintenance. I ask the booth staff what that meant. They told me the machines
got a lot of dirt and lent inside and had to be cleaned. Sure enough, they
were opened back up the next day with no changes. Let's hope that is all they
are doing to the ones in Addison's.
Jim Wade
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[vpFREE] Re: Rampart Casino alert
[vpFREE] Rampart Casino alert
Most, if not all, of the machines at Addison's Lounge were to be shut down
at 11:30 p.m. tonight for "maintenance." I will try to get there tomorrow
and see if any of the paytables have changed (unless someone gets there
earlier and makes a report). Who knows -- supposedly Michael Gaughan, Jr.
is working for them now -- maybe the paytables will be improved (yeah,
sure!!)
-- Steve in LV
[vpFREE] Re: lurker: research and in depth questions about seven star perks - loooong
campus_chic13 wrote:
> Wow, I can't believe the wealth of information I just got -
> especially that first missive from you, vp_wiz...
Thanks. Others were equally generous when I was an "up and coming" player. Just passing on the deed.
> Then I found multiplay machines, and while I'm back to where my
> bankroll is a factor again, the swings aren't as big as they would
> be at dollars - but my coin in and number of hands played went up
> almost an order of magnitude.
There is indeed an almost "magic" about multiline machines ... permitting you record trip ratings that would otherwise white-knuckle you as a single line player (given relative inherent risk).
The struggle, of course,, is finding multiline machines with strong paytables ...
> What I'm really looking to do is put some monstrous level of play
> through my casinos here at home, and use the earned comps there
> (plus 7* goodies) on low-play trips to AC or Vegas. The cruises
> sound like one heck of a perk, as well!
>
> Of course, I'm assuming my math re: multiplay bankroll requirements
> is sound. I've only backed it up by two trips to South Point, so I
> don't have a lot of real-life data yet.
>
> Another note about the cruises: I've read all over the web that
> people get free cruises for booking a trip to, say, Tunica - but I
> just can't imagine them continuing to send these offers if I never
> gamble on the ship. Does anyone know who these offers are funded
> by? CAS/NCL or Harrah's? I'm sort of suspecting that I'll be
> offered these in the beginning, but they'll peter out when they
> realize I don't gamble onboard. Still, even one 'free' cruise a
> year is awesome.
I have confidence that experience will give you a strong gut feel on true multiline bankroll requirement in very short order.
Your plan of earning 7* at your home casinos as an avenue to some nice low-play LV or AC freebies is sound. Since Harrah's engaged in wide-scale paytable cutbacks in LV, we've indulged in 7* trips to LV with limited play with little overall consequence. (Only conseqence is that I now receive LV offers that I wouldn't walk across the street for, much less fly cross-country.)
(FWIW, AC is still home to some strong paytables at reasonable denominations and there's every reason to indulge a play appetite ... I just wouldn't recommend trying to impress anyone with play volume in AC under current circumstances).
On the cruise front, I'm as mystified as you. Still, we've sailed NCL 6 times now under various casino offers, giving nominal or nil play each time, with no adverse consequence.
I'm sure this will change down the road. But for now, NCL seems content with a business model of "board them, and they will play". From my casual observation, it's a pretty reliable predictor in the majority of cases.
As far as funding, it's my guess (and that's all) that the awarding casino pays a nominal charge per offer made to play-qualified player (say something like $300). NCL relies upon gaming revenue to do the rest.
- Harry
[vpFREE] Barona Casino Update
The following listed machines do not have 2 pair Joker Wild.
(10) $1, $2, $5 1 Play MG TITO Slant in a circular bank near the coat check booth
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RE: [vpFREE] Re: lurker: research and in depth questions about seven star perks - loooong
You are correct but you ruined your company-wide ADT by doing that. Some offers are based only on company wide ADT or take company-wide ADT into consideration.
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> From: takeme2london@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 00:19:17 +0000
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: lurker: research and in depth questions about seven star perks - loooong
>
> that's what i used to think.
>
> that it was based on your coin-in... that the property at which you put through the most action became your dominant property.
>
> turns out that's not true.
>
> it's apparently based on the number of trips to a particular property, not your action.
>
> i know this from first-hand experience and from host confirmation. i was protecting my ADT at my dominant property while using lounge privileges, coupons and offers at another property... i visited the property a lot, but didn't give them much play, except for running through the $5 or $10 NNRR vouchers they would send me.
>
> nevertheless, i was recoded to that property; it's now my official "dominant" property.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, kelso 1600 <kelso1600@...> wrote:
> >
> > At which casino did you have the most coin-in for either January - June or July - December. Your dominant casino can change mid-year based upon your play.
> >
>
>
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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 22 AUG 2011
Looks like I ucked up. Monday, 9/5. I'll fix it. Thanks for the heads up.
Scot
-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Don the Dentist
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:32 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update -
22 AUG 2011
Scott,
You show some places with point multipliers on "Monday September 9". Do you
mean Monday September 5th, which is Labor Day?
Don the Dentist
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpFREE Administrator" <vpfreeadmin@...>
wrote:
>
> Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 22 AUG 2011
>
> http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/greatdeals-slotpromotions.cfm
>
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[vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 22 AUG 2011
Scott,
You show some places with point multipliers on "Monday September 9". Do you mean Monday September 5th, which is Labor Day?
Don the Dentist
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpFREE Administrator" <vpfreeadmin@...> wrote:
>
> Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 22 AUG 2011
>
> http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/greatdeals-slotpromotions.cfm
>
[vpFREE] Re: lurker: research and in depth questions about seven star perks - loooong
that's what i used to think.
that it was based on your coin-in... that the property at which you put through the most action became your dominant property.
turns out that's not true.
it's apparently based on the number of trips to a particular property, not your action.
i know this from first-hand experience and from host confirmation. i was protecting my ADT at my dominant property while using lounge privileges, coupons and offers at another property... i visited the property a lot, but didn't give them much play, except for running through the $5 or $10 NNRR vouchers they would send me.
nevertheless, i was recoded to that property; it's now my official "dominant" property.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, kelso 1600 <kelso1600@...> wrote:
>
> At which casino did you have the most coin-in for either January - June or July - December. Your dominant casino can change mid-year based upon your play.
>
[vpFREE] Re: lurker: research and in depth questions about seven star perks - loooong
South Point just happened to be where I discovered 50 play machines - and the only place I've played at these levels.
I'm just looking for a way to pay for most of my Vegas and AC trips (currently ~4x a year) by gambling locally - something I've never done before. Fortunately, our schedule until fall 2012 allows us to go anywhere we want if we have internet access, and I think this year I'd like to gamble. Concentrating on a line with casinos everywhere is probably the best way to maximize the comps I'd get for the losses I'm willing to sustain.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gofastnismo" <gofastnismo@...> wrote:
>
> Im trying to figure out why South Point and Harrahs are in the same post? They have nothing to do with each other, machine or promo wise, so any data you collect isn't going to mean anything. South Point has a much better offering of machines and pay scales. Volatility can go either way so dont automatically count on getting 7 star without going through your bankroll. It does happen quite often. Is it really worth it? Hotel rooms are cheap and a cruise for two only costs one nights bankroll on dollar VP and isn't a gamble. Playing for comps is never good.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "campus_chic13" <campus_chic13@> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I can't believe the wealth of information I just got - especially that first missive from you, vip_wiz...
> >
> > Lets see: first, I should say not to worry about inferring that I haven't been a high stakes player. It's totally fair - I typically used to run 30-40k through per trip, limited more by time and my fear of the volatility of $1 vp.
> >
> > Then I found multiplay machines, and while I'm back to where my bankroll is a factor again, the swings aren't as big as they would be at dollars - but my coin in and number of hands played went up almost an order of magnitude.
> >
> > That makes it where my normal 150k or so yearly coin in (and yes, periodic associated losses) could, if I concentrated on certain machines, hit 7* levels. Obviously, this requires Harrah's to have these machines at casinos I can drive to, but it's currently doable.
> >
> > What I'm really looking to do is put some monstrous level of play through my casinos here at home, and use the earned comps there (plus 7* goodies) on low-play trips to AC or Vegas. The cruises sound like one heck of a perk, as well!
> >
> > Think I'll pick a casino next week and see what kind of coin in (and comps) I can generate in a long weekend. With proper flexibility to catch multipliers days, I think I could stack up a good pile of comp dollars. Between those, the guaranteed 7* goodies, and free rooms that *don't* come out of my earned comps, I think I'd be able to 'pay for' everything but travel expenses on several trips through bankroll losses.
> >
> > Of course, I'm assuming my math re: multiplay bankroll requirements is sound. I've only backed it up by two trips to South Point, so I don't have a lot of real-life data yet.
> >
> >
> > Another note about the cruises: I've read all over the web that people get free cruises for booking a trip to, say, Tunica - but I just can't imagine them continuing to send these offers if I never gamble on the ship. Does anyone know who these offers are funded by? CAS/NCL or Harrah's? I'm sort of suspecting that I'll be offered these in the beginning, but they'll peter out when they realize I don't gamble onboard. Still, even one 'free' cruise a year is awesome.
> >
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dave wrote:
> > > > Yes, that might have been what happened.
> > > > 90% to 7* mid-year w/o any in AC.
> > > > Harrah's trips are through their New England office (in CT).
> > > >
> > > > Did last 10% at BallysAC. Few weeks later got 7* card and offers
> > > > from NOLA, Reno, Tahoe and Vegas go way down.
> > > >
> > > > It's o.k. as not interested in 7* for 2012 but that might have been
> > > > what happened. OTOH managment resistance to changing home casinos
> > > > is one reason for giving up the play.
> > >
> > > A few observations:
> > >
> > > "Home Casino" isn't a 7* concept -- it applies to all players. Your reassignment, after regular BAC play, would have likely happened even without passing 7* qualification threshold.
> > >
> > > "Home Casino" designation impacts very few offers ... only those that are tied to your home casino (in AC, for example, this includes the annual Christmas party assignment).
> > >
> > > It's very unlikely that home casino reassignment to BAC reduced all other regional offers across the board. (There would be a smattering of offers designated specifically for players assigned to your former home casino property for which you would no longer qualify ... but, again, those are few and far between.)
> > >
> > > Not sure what you're referring to in suggesting "management resistance" to changing home casinos. There are guidelines under which it can be done -- I forget specifics, but it's something like establishing a casino as your dominant property over the last 6 trips (based upon days at each property during that time). Best bet is to inquire with your host at the desired property how a change can be effected.
> > >
> > > - H.
> > >
> >
>
[vpFREE] Palms assimilation in to The Dark Side continues...
My September mailer is 1/3 of what I had June-August. Anyone else getting similar downgrade, or just me?
Good luck all!
Re: [vpFREE] Re: lurker: research and in depth questions about seven star per...
I've received offers for cruises on NCL even though I'm no where close to 7
Star. I put through around 30K daily on trips to Harrah's properties,
pretty much exclusively on video poker, and I've usually done a couple a
year. I have not taken advantage of any of the cruise offers, though. I did
receive an offer for a European cruise for two - choice of eastern or
western Mediterranean that looked very nice, but had already made commitments
for the summer and fall so could not take advantage of it. Someone else
mentioned making their trip arrangements through the Harrah's/Caesars office in
Mystic, CT. In the past couple of years, I have booked all my trips
through them. I've been told by a rep that if I'm interested in a cruise to let
them know - they have sent my offers for Bermuda in the past and a couple
that were Caribbean ones. I guess I'm saying that offers are forthcoming
even if you're not 7 Star.
Sandy
In a message dated 8/23/2011 4:53:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
campus_chic13@yahoo.com writes:
Another note about the cruises: I've read all over the web that people get
free cruises for booking a trip to, say, Tunica - but I just can't imagine
them continuing to send these offers if I never gamble on the ship. Does
anyone know who these offers are funded by? CAS/NCL or Harrah's? I'm sort of
suspecting that I'll be offered these in the beginning, but they'll peter
out when they realize I don't gamble onboard. Still, even one 'free' cruise
a year is awesome.
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[vpFREE] Re: lurker: research and in depth questions about seven star perks - loooong
Im trying to figure out why South Point and Harrahs are in the same post? They have nothing to do with each other, machine or promo wise, so any data you collect isn't going to mean anything. South Point has a much better offering of machines and pay scales. Volatility can go either way so dont automatically count on getting 7 star without going through your bankroll. It does happen quite often. Is it really worth it? Hotel rooms are cheap and a cruise for two only costs one nights bankroll on dollar VP and isn't a gamble. Playing for comps is never good.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "campus_chic13" <campus_chic13@...> wrote:
>
> Wow, I can't believe the wealth of information I just got - especially that first missive from you, vip_wiz...
>
> Lets see: first, I should say not to worry about inferring that I haven't been a high stakes player. It's totally fair - I typically used to run 30-40k through per trip, limited more by time and my fear of the volatility of $1 vp.
>
> Then I found multiplay machines, and while I'm back to where my bankroll is a factor again, the swings aren't as big as they would be at dollars - but my coin in and number of hands played went up almost an order of magnitude.
>
> That makes it where my normal 150k or so yearly coin in (and yes, periodic associated losses) could, if I concentrated on certain machines, hit 7* levels. Obviously, this requires Harrah's to have these machines at casinos I can drive to, but it's currently doable.
>
> What I'm really looking to do is put some monstrous level of play through my casinos here at home, and use the earned comps there (plus 7* goodies) on low-play trips to AC or Vegas. The cruises sound like one heck of a perk, as well!
>
> Think I'll pick a casino next week and see what kind of coin in (and comps) I can generate in a long weekend. With proper flexibility to catch multipliers days, I think I could stack up a good pile of comp dollars. Between those, the guaranteed 7* goodies, and free rooms that *don't* come out of my earned comps, I think I'd be able to 'pay for' everything but travel expenses on several trips through bankroll losses.
>
> Of course, I'm assuming my math re: multiplay bankroll requirements is sound. I've only backed it up by two trips to South Point, so I don't have a lot of real-life data yet.
>
>
> Another note about the cruises: I've read all over the web that people get free cruises for booking a trip to, say, Tunica - but I just can't imagine them continuing to send these offers if I never gamble on the ship. Does anyone know who these offers are funded by? CAS/NCL or Harrah's? I'm sort of suspecting that I'll be offered these in the beginning, but they'll peter out when they realize I don't gamble onboard. Still, even one 'free' cruise a year is awesome.
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@> wrote:
> >
> > Dave wrote:
> > > Yes, that might have been what happened.
> > > 90% to 7* mid-year w/o any in AC.
> > > Harrah's trips are through their New England office (in CT).
> > >
> > > Did last 10% at BallysAC. Few weeks later got 7* card and offers
> > > from NOLA, Reno, Tahoe and Vegas go way down.
> > >
> > > It's o.k. as not interested in 7* for 2012 but that might have been
> > > what happened. OTOH managment resistance to changing home casinos
> > > is one reason for giving up the play.
> >
> > A few observations:
> >
> > "Home Casino" isn't a 7* concept -- it applies to all players. Your reassignment, after regular BAC play, would have likely happened even without passing 7* qualification threshold.
> >
> > "Home Casino" designation impacts very few offers ... only those that are tied to your home casino (in AC, for example, this includes the annual Christmas party assignment).
> >
> > It's very unlikely that home casino reassignment to BAC reduced all other regional offers across the board. (There would be a smattering of offers designated specifically for players assigned to your former home casino property for which you would no longer qualify ... but, again, those are few and far between.)
> >
> > Not sure what you're referring to in suggesting "management resistance" to changing home casinos. There are guidelines under which it can be done -- I forget specifics, but it's something like establishing a casino as your dominant property over the last 6 trips (based upon days at each property during that time). Best bet is to inquire with your host at the desired property how a change can be effected.
> >
> > - H.
> >
>