Re: [vpFREE] Peppermill and the "2341 key"

 

This is very difficult for me to picture in my mind since I have never seen the process done.  When you say it gives you pages of bookkeeping-type info, how does it do that?  Does it print it out right there?  I mean, what did this guy from the Peppermill have to do to gather this info?  Presumably he did not just slyly stick a key into the back of the machine.  Did he have to open the machine?  Did he do it all by himself?  I just can't picture this guy doing this right in front of God and everyone, including  the casino surveillance department.  The guy must have had balls.



---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <Ballyowner@...> wrote:


I recently purchased an IGT Game King Multi Game machine.
It came with a 2341 reset key.
The reset key gives you pages of bookkeeping type information.
You can't change anything with it except to reset a handpay.
In order to change anything, you need to replace the main game computer chip
with a different chip made for the purpose.
I bought the necessary chip locally from a slot machine refurbisher.
I can use it to set the machine for different denominations and different games that are in
the machines memory and different payoffs.
It's a very time consuming process.
 
Glen
 
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Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 2:54 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Peppermill and the "2341 key"

 

There's a pretty good story posted over on the Reno-VPFree Section.  It should have been re-posted here but I'm sure everyone here is a member of Reno too so I suggest you go read it.  Apparently management at Peppermill Reno sent someone around town to "2341 key" its competition. (look it up  lol)

Which brings me to that, the 2341 key.  I never heard of it before.  But a quick google showed me that you can buy one easily for a few bucks.  Apparently this key is used to just "read" or analyze the play history and hold/percent return of most slot machines.  Well well well.  Hmmmm.  We've discussed many times about the "mystery" of slot machines and their hold.  I'm getting ideas of buying one of these keys and seeing how it works.  I should test it at the El Cortez or some similar "friendly" place so I won't get beat up when they back-room me.

Seriously, what does anyone here know about this 2341 key?  I wanna know more.  lol  And go read that article.  They got fined a million bucks.  ouch!

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[vpFREE] Re: Hitting royals decreases free play offers?

 

<<<<It&#39;s a rare player who will be a loser for the past six months or a year in a given casino after hitting a royal flush. >>>>
 
After hitting a Royal, you can be a loser within a day!!
 
Karen
I find television very educational. Every time it is on I go into another room and read a good book - Groucho Marx

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[vpFREE] Fwd: Dotty's Casino Countermeasures

 



>
> ALL PLAYERS are supposed to get 1.5X points on video poker (0.15%) at all times except graveyards when 2X points (0.2%) apply. I now only get 1 point per $1 played ( 0.1%) at all times.

Slight correction. I tried playing today during a non-multiplier time and only got 0.5 point per $1 played (0.05%). Therefore I guess they are giving the extra 0.05% during bonus times but are screwing me on my base cash back rate. They took down my information to send to accounting for an explanation. They expect to have a response for my next visit.

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Re: [SPAM][vpFREE] RE: Some suggestions for Pechanga

 

My experience marketing and hosts have very little to do with each other, except perhaps at the very very high playing limits.  Especially not when you are talking about mailers.  Some hosts, however, can give comps beyond the mailers.
 
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http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/
 

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[vpFREE] RE: Hitting royals decreases free play offers?

 

<<It's a rare player who will be a loser for the past six months or a year in a given casino after hitting a royal flush. >>
 
Sorry to disagree.  I find it VERY easy to do this!!!!!!
 
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Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/
 

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Re: [vpFREE] Peppermill and the "2341 key"

 



I recently purchased an IGT Game King Multi Game machine.
It came with a 2341 reset key.
The reset key gives you pages of bookkeeping type information.
You can't change anything with it except to reset a handpay.
In order to change anything, you need to replace the main game computer chip
with a different chip made for the purpose.
I bought the necessary chip locally from a slot machine refurbisher.
I can use it to set the machine for different denominations and different games that are in
the machines memory and different payoffs.
It's a very time consuming process.
 
Glen
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 2:54 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Peppermill and the "2341 key"

 

There's a pretty good story posted over on the Reno-VPFree Section.  It should have been re-posted here but I'm sure everyone here is a member of Reno too so I suggest you go read it.  Apparently management at Peppermill Reno sent someone around town to "2341 key" its competition. (look it up  lol)

Which brings me to that, the 2341 key.  I never heard of it before.  But a quick google showed me that you can buy one easily for a few bucks.  Apparently this key is used to just "read" or analyze the play history and hold/percent return of most slot machines.  Well well well.  Hmmmm.  We've discussed many times about the "mystery" of slot machines and their hold.  I'm getting ideas of buying one of these keys and seeing how it works.  I should test it at the El Cortez or some similar "friendly" place so I won't get beat up when they back-room me.

Seriously, what does anyone here know about this 2341 key?  I wanna know more.  lol  And go read that article.  They got fined a million bucks.  ouch!

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[vpFREE] Cosmo $100 new member rebate?

 
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[vpFREE] RE: Some suggestions for Pechanga

 

You are saying then that hosts have some say in your mailers. That is if you're serious that accent can affect them. I think Kim Lee came up with the perfect name - gender non-specific, Asian, and easily reversible. Next name change that is what I will choose. Sorry Kim Lee, hope you don't pick up my heat. LOL.

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RE: [vpFREE] Redraw Royal

 

The charts assume that you are playing correct strategy. http://www.videopokerhelp.net/5-cards-discarded.htm

http://www.videopokerhelp.net/5-cards-dealt.htm

 

5-card

 

 

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BANDSTAND54@AOL.COM
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:06 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Cc: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Redraw Royal

 

 

Today for the second time in my video poker career I hit a royal on the redraw playing DDB. Are the odds the same as hitting it on the first draw? I never hit a royal back to back though. What are the odds there I wonder.? Anyone know the answer to these two questions?

 

 

Ralph Gary Brauner

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[vpFREE] Redraw Royal

 

Today for the second time in my video poker career I hit a royal on the redraw playing DDB. Are the odds the same as hitting it on the first draw? I never hit a royal back to back though. What are the odds there I wonder.? Anyone know the answer to these two questions?



Ralph Gary Brauner

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Re: [vpFREE] RE: Peppermill and the "2341 key"

 

If you read the whole article by the Wizard of Odds you see that he has a disclaimer in Final Analysis section saying that his returns are estimates because he doesn't know the exact reel weights. I think this means that the return value can be changed without anybody being able to figure it out without keying the machine.

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Re: [vpFREE] Question about Cannery inventory on vpfree2

 

Thank you, 007.  I do not think the machines described on VPFree2 as being near the garage door exist anymore.  It's possible those are now the bank of 7-5 Double Double.  It's hard for me to tell as I am not in town and have not been to the Cannery for some time.  I know the other two banks listed do exist, one in the middle of the casino and one in the non-smoking room. 

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[vpFREE] RE: Some suggestions for Pechanga

 

Munch asks about: "reasonable mailers"?

I don't think any casino sends "reasonable mailers" anymore. It's all become very complicated, it depends on your sex, age, ethnic appearance or surname, accent, where you live, what id's you present, how you conduct yourself in the casino, and so on. And casinos like to try to reserve the right to change the terms at any moment to their discretion, they don't have that right, but you might need gaming's help to explain that to them.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Dotty's Casino Countermeasures

 



To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
From: keno60@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:26:59 -0600
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Dotty's Casino Countermeasures

 

I am a quarter player with 3 playslosing, one even, and 1 where I hit a royal. Right after the royal i went from free rooms to discounts.  The discounts with their resort fee makes it stupid for me to play there. I am a .25 player and I did not play any +EV only 9/6 JOB

To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
From: bobdancervp@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 22:16:22 -0800
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Dotty's Casino Countermeasures

 

Tom wrote:  I must be missing something, I play the same nsud at Dottie's and stations, but stingy stations gives me 5x the comps and free play !

There are two major differences. First of all, to get the highest return out of NSU at Dotty's, it requires playing coin-in of $120 per hand or higher. Station Casinos does not offer games that loose for stakes that high. High stakes players do not get the same percentage return that lower stakes players get --- but they do get much higher dollars-per-hour EVs.

Second, Station Casinos have arguably kicked out more players than all the other local casinos in Vegas put together. Most knowledgeable players are not welcome there. There are still some skillful players who have run badly there who are welcome, but their time is likely limited. In addition, Stations has kicked out not-so-skillful players who have hit "too many" royals.

For the most part, if you have a clue as to what you're doing playing video poker, or you've been lucky, you're no-mailed and otherwise restricted by Stations. But if forever reason you're still welcome to play at Stations and you're satisfied with the stakes and benefits, go for it.

Bob




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