[vpFREE] Re: Harrah's Atlantic City

 

Saw that and a google search shows it being picked-up by other news outlets. 20/20 interviewed the AC mayor about it. He was not in a good mood after being interviewed on another news show about the general economic collapse in his City.



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[vpFREE] Re: Need help witth a paytable, please

 

Hello Everyone-


For those that don't believe Caesars monitors this group- I went back to this machine on July 25th- and the pay-table (formerly 9/6 JoB with 450 SF) had been changed.  I was semi-skeptical that they kept an eye on us- not any more!


FYI and Thanks, Lee.    

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[vpFREE] Harrah's Atlantic City

 

A segment on ABC's 20/20 last night showed security at Harrah's Atlantic City beating the crap out of their customers.   Not good publicity for an organization in the entertainment business.  Of course they are being sued  and looks like the plaintiffs might have a good case.

Rick


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[vpFREE] Re: No Mailers - No Invite

 


Some people read what they want to read, rather than what was written (see earlier remarks in reply quoted at end).  My original statement was:

> However, if you presume a player has 200,000+ hands of play in the casino and
> they have failed to establish themselves as a profitable player, there begins to be
> cause for a bias that they aren't likely to become a profitable player.

No where did I suggest 200,000 hands was a long-term measurement.  I'll stick by a corollary of my original statement, a streak of 200,000 hands of profitable play is more likely to reflect variance from the casino's expected loss as a consequence of skill than it is mere luck ... and therefore, there's cause for bias (as in, "more likely than not") against the player being profitable in the longer-term.

I spoke nothing in the region of confidence that would represent a "long term" play trial.  But some players are simply self-deluded in thinking that a casino should always attribute a sustained net winning streak to nothing more than dumb luck.

And let's take that DDB game that Nordo cites as an example to the contrary:  If a casino is rating a game assuming 1%+ in strategy error cost, then those who are showing a profit are indeed playing above a full s.d. from casino expectation. 

I assert, that while it's not with strong confidence, again, there's a bias that such results are a consequence of stronger than expected play skill than merely good luck.  Such players are being overcompensated, and, again, there's cause for a bias against them being profitable in the longer-term.

- H.

---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <Nordo123@...> wrote :

To Harry and others, 200000 hands for long run - what a joke. If you were playing 9-6 DDB 1 sd would still be 1.5 %.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: No Mailers - No Invite

 

Vegasvpplayer wrote:

>This is pretty low when a casino reneges on a mailed offers half way thru the month

It may have been the only time that the Gaming Commission ruled
against me when the Wynn mailed me an offer for free play and reneged.

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[vpFREE] Re: Suncoast

 

I visited Suncoast yesterday, and found that many other games had been shorted.   This included Triple Bonus Plus, Deuces Wild Bonus, ACE$ Bonus Poker, Bonus Poker, and BP Deluxe.  



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Re: [vpFREE] Re: No Mailers - No Invite

 

Looks like they are cutting even more players from the mailing list.  My free play was on my card the first half of the week.  No free play on my card the second half of the week.  This is pretty low when a casino reneges on a mailed offers half way thru the month,  but then again I understand the new promotions director is from Gold Coast.

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On Aug 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, "Judy@realtor.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Latest is Tuscany.  Cut off bounce back free play in the middle of the month, sent out mailers, but the players were told they are invalid.  Referenced their "style" of play was not acceptable.   There are NO decent video poker games in Tuscany over 99.1%.  Most are under 99%.

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