Re: [vpFREE] Luxor Question

 

> From: "lfcmja@verizon.net" lfcmja@verizon.net

>Was wondering if the VPFree2 database was still accurate ?  In particular it lists $1 8/5 BP single line play as being located in several banks.  When last in LV  this past summer I passed through the Luxor.The casino floor was undergoing renovation and I didn't locate several banks; only a group of about 3 machines.
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>Anyone have the latest info ?

The Luxor video poker in vpFREE2 was just updated today, no doubt because of your question. It looks like there are still two dozen of the $1 single-line 8/5 BP that you asked about.

http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/luxor

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[vpFREE] Re: Video Poker Hackers Cleared of Federal Charges

 

I wonder how they discovered the software bug in the first place.  As I remember it, the denomination had to be changed during the double-up feature.  Any theories?

 

Bob B.

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[vpFREE] RE: Bob Dancer's LVA 26 NOV 2013

 

Some comments:


Bob wrote: "If someone somehow had an accurate number as of last night, how often is it recalculated?"


Recalculated every time there's a change in money out or money in. Having an accurate number is the field of accounting. Sloppy accounting generally causes problems.


Bob wrote: "How does he account for free play that he knows is coming?"


The simple answer is it doesn't count until it actually goes into the bankroll, the more complex answer has to do with present value versus future value, cash basis versus accrual basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basis_of_accounting


Bob wrote: "How does he monetize comps?"


If $1 comp can be monetized to $1 cash, it is worth $1, when monetized. Otherwise there are different ratios.


Bob wrote: "If you own a house and are willing to put a $200,000 mortgage on it if your gambling bankroll goes down to zero, should you consider that $200,000 as part of your bankroll?"


Yes, this was the original use of a property mortgage, for example a farmer would mortgage a part of his farm to buy a new tractor, presumably he felt that was plus EV. Make sure to account for the interest on the debt. That's a collateral loan, you are effectively monetizing property. A no collateral loan is a leveraged bet, which under the Kelly system you would never do. Gamblers typically take out "markers" which are zero interest loans and can often come with loss rebates, either implied or actual. A loss rebate can make a marker attractive to Kelly gamblers.

google.com/search?q=gambling+marker


Bob wrote: "In one of Stanford Wong's books, he defined bankroll as the amount of money you're willing to lose before you give up gambling. I like that definition, but when push comes to shove, I don't know how to calculate it. If you have a current bankroll of $20,000, it's one thing to SAY that if your gambling bankroll decreases to $2,000, you're going to stop gambling "forever and ever amen." It's another thing entirely to ACTUALLY QUIT at that time."


Having a hard "stop loss limit" is important anytime you're dealing with a possibly addictive behavior. If you can't set a stop loss limit and keep it, you should avoid that activity because you are likely to descend into addiction.










---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree3355@...> wrote:

Bob Dancer's LVA 26 NOV 2013

Bankroll Misgivings

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2013/1126.cfm

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[vpFREE] RE: RE: Bob Dancer's LVA 26 NOV 2013

 

Just a comment: The Kelly Criterion is one "prescribed standard".



---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <harry.porter@...> wrote:

I think this is one of Bob's best articles -- it frames the somewhat nebulous concept of "bankroll" in real terms that give it greater substance. 

He fleshes out aspects that require that a player make some judgement calls about their financial circumstances in order to realistically assess one's bankroll, and at the same times notes how practical limitations come in to play in imposing limits on the realistic application of such a bankroll figure.

I would have liked Bob to direct state (rather than just alluding to) that the bankroll concept, while based on absolute statistics, is best applied to one's play as a general acid test of play appropriateness, rather than as precise play measure.  Among other things, determinants such as one's ROR "comfort zone" is strictly a gut call -- there's no prescribed standard.

All in all, I think Bob knocked this one out of the park.



---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree3355@...> wrote:

Bob Dancer's LVA 26 NOV 2013

Bankroll Misgivings

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2013/1126.cfm

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