[vpFREE] Re: ADVANTAGE SLOTS

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
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> QUICK STRIKE--

I've been playing these for a few years now in California, Mickey. Of course, I didn't do the math work that you did, but just experimented a little bit and then went by "feel". I have found several variations of meter rise on the mini jackpot. I like to have 1%, but I have also found .8%, .6%, and even .5%. On the other end, I've found like 1.2% or 1.3%. In my mind, my goal has been to essentially break even, including my cashback and mailers, and show some slot action. Many that I play are $10-$20, and I come in at just under $17, and I won't play if it is under .8% meter rise on the mini.

I remember one good night there were these new machines that are $100-$200, and I found one at $192, with a 1.2% meter. I popped it on the third pull. Bingo, Merry Christmas.

Another two memorable plays were almost exactly the same situation, but at two different casinos. I walked up to the bank in each case, and the mini at an open seat was barely under $48 on a 25-50 game. Surprisingly, on both sides of this open seat was a player, banging away for a $25 or $26 mini. I almost felt guilty, sat down at the open seat between the other two players, and snapped off $48 almost immediately. Incredible. God bless their little clueless ploppy souls.

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[vpFREE] Re: ADVANTAGE SLOTS

 

QUICK STRIKE-The margin of error will mostly be in your favor as games like this are usually in the 92% to 94% range. But if you don't trust the particular casino then stick to the upper playable numbers. RCH said he was averaging a $30 earn with a playable number of $48. I would say it's a $30 earn plus an occasional longshot hit. By betting just 30 cents, RCH is taking the money swings out of the game by getting a better average on the line pays. But this low-bet strategy would be terrible if the machines are linked together-if that's the case then blast away at max bet playing as fast as possible. Whoever gets in the biggest blocks of coins with the fastest speed is the winner in these contests.

Hold it! I've got the window open and I'm hearing a lonesome whistle blow. The engineer always blows the horn twice before crossing a roadway. God, I wish I was on that damn train. No I don't. I'm to old for that crap. I can't even defend myself anymore. Growing old ain't for sissies. Ain't that what Kathrine Hepburn said? Forget it, Mickey, and get back to work.

I always back up my approximate calculations with empirical data. On every play I get, I would record where the meter was at when I started, where it was at when I hit it. And how much I won or lost on the play. I would also take note of any longshot hits I made. In the video, RCH appears to have started the play somewhere around $47.56....and the play ends at $49.26. The meter rise was $1.70. So he made a $170 wager. In a post below the video he says he put $40 in the machine, made a $100 longshot hit, and cashed out a $169.25 ticket. The first thing I would do here, is cull out the $100 hit. In such a short sample space it's a skewed stat. So $69.25 minus $49.26 is $19.99. Putting $40 in the machine means he got dropped for $20.01 on a $170 wager. Surprisingly, that's only an 11.77% drop. I put stats like this on a spreadsheet and use running totals to monitor the drop. The more I can zero in on the actual payback the more I can calculate just how low a playable number I can take.

For those of you who play strong video poker, a game like this is a way to sandwich your video poker play between slot play that has a much higher theo. But stick to the playable numbers.

That damn freight train ticked me off. Rob, I think I'm going to have to have a few Moose Drools tonight in your honor. Take care, brother. Now everybody put your vpFREE patches on and go out and play them Quick Strikes.

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[vpFREE] Re: ADVANTAGE SLOTS

 

QUICK STRIKE-ANALYZING THE GAME

1. Assing an overall payback value of 90% (with a margin of error of plus 4% or minus 3%).

2. Determine what the average mini jackpot value is by adding the lower parameter, $25, to the upper parameter, $50, then dividing by 2. Average mini jackpot value is $37.50.

3. Determine the wager necessary to drive the meter from $25 to $37.50. It's a 1% meter so 12.5 X 100 equals $1250.

4. Determine how much payback the Mini represents. 37.5/1250 = 3%.

5. Discount 3% from the overall payback. That leaves 87%.

Note: The Major jackpot represents 1% of the payback. Two-thirds of it is in the $250 it starts at, and one-third is in the meter. You can't say you have total equity in the Major meter because you will cash out when you hit the Mini. But this is offset by the extra money in the major meter. I'll deal with plays on the major meter at another time.

6. Determine, with a playable number of $48, the average payoff for betting the luck coin by adding the lower parameter, $48, to the upper parameter, $50, and dividing by 2. Average value is $49.

7. Determine how much wager it takes to move the meter to $49. It's a 1% meter so $100 in action does the trick.

8. Determine how much payback $49 represents. 49/100 = 49%.

9. Add 49% to 87%.

A playable number of $48 comes in at 136%
A playable number of $47.50 comes in at 126%
A playable number of $47 comes in at 119%
A playable number of $46.50 comes in at 114%
A playable number of $46.00 comes in at 111%

Playing at $48 or higher virtually guarantee's no losing plays. Playing at $46 will show a profit in the long term, but you will have many losing plays.

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[vpFREE] Re: ADVANTAGE SLOTS

 

I'm gonna have to send this in several posts. The internet signal in this hotel room keeps breaking up and I'm doing a bunch of typing for nothing.

Explanation of Luck Coin. In the video, below the mini meter it says Range -$25-$50. That means the meter starts at $25 and will go no higher than $50. So let's imagine that the mini has just been hit and resets at $25. At this time the RNG selects a random coin number (but with parameters). Whoever bets that coin gets the jackpot. So let's figure out how many coin numbers there are. A 1% meter means a $1 wager moves the meter one penny. Consequently, a $2500 wager would move the meter $25. A $2500 wager is 250,000 coins. So the RNG will select a coin number between 1 and 250,000. Whoever bets that coin number gets the jackpot. For example, if the RNG selects coin #17, and on your very first spin, betting 30 cents, Voila! You are awarded the jackpot because coin #17 was in the block of 30 coins you wagered. Nice hit!

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[vpFREE] Re: ADVANTAGE SLOTS

 

QUICK STRIKE--From posts I've read I think I've ticked some folks off by only writing about extinct advantage plays. So we may as well flip the coin over and tick some folks off for writing about a current advantage play. I've never played a Quick Strike. That's how long I've been out of Nevada. When NOTI put up a youtube video of the Alice In Wonderland slot I did some snooping around on related videos and found the Quick Strike video, made by someone called Real Casino Hustler (RCH). I was able to tell what was going on by watching this video that has had over 7700 views in one year and appears to be getting about 200 views per week. So why should I keep my mouth shut?

I automatically recognized the game as a variant of Lucky Coin Bonus System that debuted at the Mandalay Bay opening. LCBS has come in many forms over the years. The name itself gives a clue as to how it works. You don't have to hit a line pay to get the progressive meter. You just have to bet the lucky coin. In the video our hero, RCH, is playing a penny denom Quick Strike. He's actually playing three games at once. He's trying to hit line pays, trying to hit the Major progressive, and trying to hit the Mini progressive. But he's going to cash out once he hits the Mini. His advice is to play the game when you find the Mini meter at $48 or higher, which is good. But his advice that the Mini usually hits between $47 and $50 it not so good. If that were the case then a better name for the game would be Slow Strike. His advice that the Mini progressive meter runs at 1% is good because I counted him down. He's making a 30 cent bet per spin. I was able to determine that the Major meter runs at .3333%. Here's the video. Pay attention to the Mini jackpot and just below where it says "Range-$25-$50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ceZI4z8dg

I'll continue in the next post.

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[vpFREE] Majestic Star (Gary IN)

 

Currently, they are installing five new machines on the Majestic Star 1 and
seven new machines on the Majestic Star 2.

All of these are gimmick type games with often many types of gimmicks to
choose from.

One of the two STP Spin Poker games is running on the MS2 with bad pay
tables. Each boat has one of the Multi-Strike Ultimate Deluxe machines with
many versions of Multi-Strike plus Ace Invaders, Big Split and Double Down
Stud. I suspect that none of these machines will have pay tables that need
adding to the database and none of the games currently in the database have
been replaced by these.

If anybody sees a game on these that requires an add to the database, then
please let me know.

I will check these sometime next week.

Howard W. Stern

vpfree2 monitor

Majestic Star and Rivers (IL)

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[vpFREE] Re: Rental cars

 



Yes, you need to be a Costco member.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "HOHOHONDO" <hohohondo@...> wrote:
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> I tried COSTCO and saw a good price for Budget. Will they ask for a COSTCO card? I don't have one.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <bob972@> wrote:
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> > Try Costco
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> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Vegas <clawed4967@> wrote:
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> > > Any advice on how to get a cheap rental car ?
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[vpFREE] Harry's Comment About Reno./ was Re: Coach V Harrah's AC Trip Report

 

I'm not sure I fully understand Harry's post about Reno.

I typically travel to Reno once a month and play at the Atlantis for 3 days. (I play elsewhere for 3 or 4 days on quarter machines, no comps.) I get the Atlantis rooms comped (at present--may be eliminated soon) and play $1 single line positive ev vp. I receive comp points at .22 to .17 when not multiplied to 2X, 3X or 4X, which can be converted to free play on a 50% basis. I always have enough points for meals. My coin in is typically $20,000 to $25,000 a day.

I do not play at any Harrah's casino and their best game in Reno appears to be full pay JOB.

Does your post indicate that I would be better or as well off at Reno Harrah's? There are other considerations such as if I no longer receive room comps at Atlantis, switching my positive quarter play to 4 days at Harrah's or spending all 7days at Harrah's.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@...> wrote:
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> If you've been inclined to put through the requisite play for other reasons, the 7* bennies are a GREAT perk, and among the strongest to be found within in any casino group for that level of play. But play directed at Caesars primarily for the sake of those benefits is certain to meet with disappointment.
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> -- My personal take on Atlantis (FWIW) is that it's a wonderful smorgasbord of attractive play options. But the economics of the play there is roughly on par with the best that Harrah's Reno or Tahoe have to offer, when offers are taken into consideration.
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> I would never contemplate a return to Atlantis without including play at one or both Harrah's venues in the area.
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> -- I don't commend Harrah's play to anyone as advantageous over several other options, but there's considerable value to be selectively found. I can't help but suspect that you've cut yourself off imprudently in the last few months.
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> All extended merely as FWIW.
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> - H.
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[vpFREE] Re: Rental cars

 

I tried COSTCO and saw a good price for Budget. Will they ask for a COSTCO card? I don't have one.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <bob972@...> wrote:
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> Try Costco
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Vegas <clawed4967@> wrote:
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> > Any advice on how to get a cheap rental car ?
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> > ðŸ" 🍎 ðŸ"– CLAWED ðŸ"– 🍎 ðŸ"
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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 30 AUG 2012

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 30 AUG 2012

"September Vegas Promotions"

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=2298

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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 31 AUG 2012

 

LVA Question of the Day - 31 AUG 2012

Q: You mentioned in your Today's News column the other day
that MGM and Caesars are billions and billions of dollars
in debt. Can you tell us why?

Read the answer here:

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/qod.cfm

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http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/qod.cfm</a>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Rental cars

 

We have a Fox rental booked for 8 days in Oct & the cost we are locked
into is $199 for a Mid-size car. That does include all taxes & fees. We've
been using Fox for the past 5 trips & don't find the double shuttle to Fox
to be a problem.
Linda
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Try Fox. However, be aware that it involves a "double shuttle." You take
the regular shuttle to the Rental Center, then the Fox shuttle from there to
the Fox lot (about two miles south of the RC and just west of LV Blvd.)
When you return to the airport, you drop your car at the Fox lot, catch their
shuttle to the RC, and board its airport shuttle. Sounds more tedious and
time-consuming than it really is. The Fox shuttle runs 7x24 and at 10-min.
intervals. I just did a three-day rental of an economy car for $55. Budget
wanted $131!
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