Re: [vpFREE] Re: Info when you cash a ticket

 

Except when it is you who is being audited. I've been thru multiple audits. There's a reason the personal gambling log is the most important document a gambler can have. Nothing will or can supersede that log because it is the word of the taxpayer.

3rd party info, such as bank withdrawal & deposit statements relating to individual gambling session/trips are good support, but no competent auditor could ever rely on a casino win/loss statement when it's impossible to determine if the gambler also gambled without a card. You're asking for the auditor to assume at that point, and the audits are about only the facts. The log provides the needed facts.

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Anybody with common sense would place more value on an independent third party evaluation. You can put anything you want in your log. Many people and companies are well known for keeping 2 sets of books.

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[vpFREE] Re: MATH Question----3 Card Poker

 

Final answer is: 1 in 20,358,520

I did the math for SHFL for the sidebet.

Elliot Frome
Gambatria.com

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> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:19:27 -0700
> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker
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> Thanks. I did it different, and your's is probably right.
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> The Wild Joker
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> 52!/46!6! = (52*51*50*49*48*47)/(1*2*3*4*5*6) = 20,358,520. In IL, the regular lotto is 6 out of 52 which is exactly the same as getting 6 specific cards out of a 52 card deck. The IL lottery shows the odds as 1:10,179,260 since you get two picks for a $1 play. ( You cannot buy a 50c lotto play in IL.)
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> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of The Wild Joker
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> I calculated higher than that, but it was a quick n dirty. I got about 119 million to 1
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> The Wild Joker
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> Game is offering a million dollar prize with getting a 6 card DIAMOND royal
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[vpFREE] Re: Info when you cash a ticket

 

Anybody with common sense would place more value on an independent third party evaluation. You can put anything you want in your log. Many people and companies are well known for keeping 2 sets of books.

I also wonder what that district manager's employees think of his managerial skills.

Chris

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:
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> That shows why an average 5 out of 6 IRS employees are incompetent.
> I went into each audit armed with copies of the IRS manual from my son-in-law, who works as a district manager for them in the Phoenix office.
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> What I faced was word-for-word and as I explained. And it makes sense also. Why would they choose to believe a 3rd party compilation when it's entirely possible that your card reader wasn't always perfect or ESPECIALLY when a player can just as easily play without a card? It's YOU who's being audited and not the 3rd party.
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> BTW, the "5 of 6" comment came straight from my daughter's husband.
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> My experience (based on thankfully only one tax audit so far) was just exactly opposite of your statement. The auditor completely dismissed my contemporaneous gambling log straight away, and was only interested in third party confirmation of my results - specifically the won/loss statements provided by the casinos. I guess it all depends on which auditor you get.
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[vpFREE] Grand Sierra Reno

 

I noticed there were no games listed in vpfree2. I was there last weekend. From what I saw every JB in every denomation (5c to $5) is 9/5. Every bonus poker is 7/5 and every double bonus is 9/6/5.

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[vpFREE] Re: xvp: Southwest Pvd to Las sale:

 

Nice. That is a very good price. Jet Blue from Boston, November 2 for 7 days is $322. And I thought that was pretty good. Didn't know SW flew non-stop from Providence. Might be something new?
I thought there flights stopped in Denver but I checked SW website and it shows non-stop to Vegas. Great to have Pvd as an option. Thanks

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> Just booked a trip to Las Vegas from Providence for $271.00 tax included round trip AM departure and AM return NON STOP....not the least expensive flight but a great convenience for me.....I'm not leaving until late Jan..hope this might help someone out there!! Rod.
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RE: [vpFREE] xvp: Southwest Pvd to Las sale:

The SWA sale is good for 3 days only and starts at $35 one way

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[vpFREE] xvp: Southwest Pvd to Las sale:

 

Just booked a trip to Las Vegas from Providence for $271.00 tax included round trip AM departure and AM return NON STOP....not the least expensive flight but a great convenience for me.....I'm not leaving until late Jan..hope this might help someone out there!! Rod.

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RE: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker

and the final answer is ?

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: jokerswild1203@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:19:27 -0700
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker


Thanks. I did it different, and your's is probably right.

Ned C.
The Wild Joker

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker


52!/46!6! = (52*51*50*49*48*47)/(1*2*3*4*5*6) = 20,358,520. In IL, the regular lotto is 6 out of 52 which is exactly the same as getting 6 specific cards out of a 52 card deck. The IL lottery shows the odds as 1:10,179,260 since you get two picks for a $1 play. ( You cannot buy a 50c lotto play in IL.)

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I calculated higher than that, but it was a quick n dirty. I got about 119 million to 1

Ned C.
The Wild Joker

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Subject: RE: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker

1 in 20,358,520. Number of players makes no difference.

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Subject: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker

Game is offering a million dollar prize with getting a 6 card DIAMOND royal
between your three cards and the dealers 3 cards. There can be up to 6
players on the table. What are the odds of gettting this and does the number
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Re: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker

 

Thanks. I did it different, and your's is probably right.
 
Ned C.
The Wild Joker

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker

 
52!/46!6! = (52*51*50*49*48*47)/(1*2*3*4*5*6) = 20,358,520. In IL, the regular lotto is 6 out of 52 which is exactly the same as getting 6 specific cards out of a 52 card deck. The IL lottery shows the odds as 1:10,179,260 since you get two picks for a $1 play. ( You cannot buy a 50c lotto play in IL.)

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of The Wild Joker
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:43 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker

I calculated higher than that, but it was a quick n dirty. I got about 119 million to 1

Ned C.
The Wild Joker

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1 in 20,358,520. Number of players makes no difference.

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Subject: [vpFREE] MATH Question----3 Card Poker

Game is offering a million dollar prize with getting a 6 card DIAMOND royal
between your three cards and the dealers 3 cards. There can be up to 6
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[vpFREE] Campaign to have Lenny Frome inducted into the Gaming Hall of Fame.

 

I thought the membership would be interested in this press release. Full text below. Link here http://www.pr.com/press-release/361963

Make 2012 Lenny's Year

With the November issue, Midwest Gaming & Travel launches its campaign to have Lenny Frome inducted into the Gaming Hall of Fame.

Las Vegas, NV, October 18, 2011 --(PR.com)-- Every year since 1989, gaming professionals have honored colleagues who have distinguished themselves through significant contributions to the industry with induction into the Gaming Hall of Fame. Among the ranks of past inductees are such gaming pioneers as Benny Binion, Sam Boyd, Barron Hilton and William Harrah, and visionaries like Jack Binion, Don Laughlin, Craig H. Neilsen and Steve Wynn. All have had exemplary careers and are fitting representatives of the best of the gaming industry.

One important name however, is missing from the hallowed walls of the Gaming Hall of Fame at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas. That name is Lenny Frome, the Godfather of Video Poker.

For those who knew him, Lenny was a friend and mentor. For those who read his books and articles, he was a diligent and perseverant instructor. Those who will learn about Lenny in the Lenny Frome section of the November issue of Midwest Gaming & Travel, will see why his name should join those listed above. Lenny Frome was first and foremost, by self-proclamation, the "PlayersPal."

Every year the American Gaming Association solicits nominations, and then AGA staff and members of the Board of Directors make the final selections for induction into the Gaming Hall of Fame.

Right now, we have the unique opportunity to posthumously thank Lenny for all he did. And that's where you can come in. Today, we can speak as one, we can tell the AGA that Lenny Frome should be among the other giants of the industry honored in the Gaming Hall of Fame. Together we can do it. Together we can make 2012 "Lenny's Year."

— There are a number of ways to make your voice heard. Choose the method that is easiest for you.
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— You can sign and cut out the prepared note below and mail it to:
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[vpFREE] Re: Wind Creek Casino Alabama

 

The games are electronic bingo games dressed up to look like slot machines. The hold is enormous. The $500 free play signup bonus requires 20K coin in.

Not worth stopping.

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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 18 OCT 2011

 

LVA Question of the Day - 18 OCT 2011

Q: I can't believe how bad The Rio looks. When
exactly was the last time it was painted?

Read the answer here:

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/qod.cfm

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[vpFREE] Re: IGT Video Blackjack Scam?

 


Yep, you're right. There's no glitch. I must have been mistaken, so forget that I even mentioned it.

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> What Glitch?? If they're looking for credits left on the machine they
> would show no matter what game is on the screen or for that matter
> they would show it only the game menu was showing. No, they're
> looking at the last blackjack hand on the screen. Whatever that hand
> is determines if they sit down to play their quarter or not. And then
> why play only the one hand. They'll check every machine with BJ on it
> and then start all over again and do the same circuit. Oft times
> there will be two or more that will discuss at length the hand showing
> and then decide to play their one hand or not. Of course that
> discussion is in an unfathomable language. So I don't see any glitch
> in the machine. They lose that hand as often as not.
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