[vpFREE] A sabbatical question

 

Thanks in advance for any advice.

My life is taking me overseas for around 9 months beginning later this spring. Obviously the various casinos I currently visit will not be seeing me during this time.

Which casinos should I tell? Just the ones where I have a host? Just the ones where I really like my host? In some cases pulling a vanishing act can result in better offers down the road as casinos sweeten the pot trying to encourage a return (not knowing I'm not staying away because the offers are inadequate).

But I assume a great relationship with a host might mean they pull strings and repeat my tier level the next year without me qualifying if they know I'm out of the country.

Presumably there's no one to bother telling at the places I'm not hosted. But how would you handle it in my shoes?

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 19 MAR 2015

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 19 MAR 2015

When Casinos Cut VP Benefits – Part 1

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=3819

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Re: [vpFREE] WinStar

 

They have all "valid" machines.


In a message dated 3/19/2015 5:24:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

We go to Winstar often. they have progressive 50 cent and dollar NSUD. Also

progressive quarter 98.9 deuces, progressive 9/6 JOB and 9/6 DDB, etc. all
good games are at the Rome and London bars.

In a message dated 3/19/2015 1:20:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

Just a wild question ...

There does not seem to be very much action at the vpFREE Oklahoma site. At
least the data base says that the WinStar World Casino in Thackerville, OK
(owned by Chicksaw Nation Enterprises) has NSUD, 9/6 JOB and 8/5 BP at the
quarter, half and dollar levels. Does anyone here have any recent
experience with this casino?

Additionally, does anyone know if there is "valid" VP at this casino and
not "bingo" machines.

Thank you.

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Re: [vpFREE] WinStar

 

We go to Winstar often. they have progressive 50 cent and dollar NSUD. Also
progressive quarter 98.9 deuces, progressive 9/6 JOB and 9/6 DDB, etc. all
good games are at the Rome and London bars.


In a message dated 3/19/2015 1:20:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

Just a wild question ...

There does not seem to be very much action at the vpFREE Oklahoma site. At
least the data base says that the WinStar World Casino in Thackerville, OK
(owned by Chicksaw Nation Enterprises) has NSUD, 9/6 JOB and 8/5 BP at the
quarter, half and dollar levels. Does anyone here have any recent
experience with this casino?

Additionally, does anyone know if there is "valid" VP at this casino and
not "bingo" machines.

Thank you.

..... bl

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[vpFREE] Re: "Risk" - was Re: Canada/US Dollar Exchange--How much (if any) of an advantage pla

 

cmayhem2001 wrote: "Don't forget, you could get hit by a bus on your way out of the casino... this could severely effect bankroll growth."

Yes, very funny. Of course the difference is there's not much you can do about the chances of getting run over by a bus while there are things you can do to reduce gambling risk. Four areas were identified:

1. Variance

The solution to the variance problem is to know in advance what you're dealing with. Don't just make the assumption you will never run bad, most likely you will, certainly the more you play the greater your odds that you will have a bad run. Use Dunbar's Risk Analyzer. Or use 3 x betsize x sqrt(variance x hands) but don't count results whose cycle time is greater than the hand size sample you're looking at in your EV and variance calculations (i.e. discount the long shots).

2. Play errors

The solution is to keep records and use Bayesian analysis to determine your true EV in the casino environment, keeping in mind it will vary from machine to machine and casino to casino. Frank Kneeland was working on some software to do this but I think he gave up. Don't just assume that machines with the same paytable are alike, they most likely are not, your true EV will vary from machine to machine. Be wary of machines with spotlights on them, these are hard on the eyes and can cause errors you're not even aware of, sometimes polarized glasses or sticky notes help, but often the machine is unplayable, find another. Be wary of machines placed in loud locations, sometimes earplugs or noise cancelling headphones work, but often the machines are unplayable, find another. Intense lights and noise overload the brain and cause errors in judgement, this is well known and is even considered torture under some circumstances.

3. Overbetting bankroll

The main solution is the Kelly system, in a nutshell: If a betsize is more than your current bankroll times the total EV divided by the variance, don't do it, instead spend your time scouting for plays that fit your current bankroll or participate in the many casino "no play required" promotions.

4. Taxes

The solution is to look at taxes in advance, instead of as an afterthought when they are due. Read the books on gambling and taxes before you even bother with the books on just gambling. If you're starting from scratch, you need to play at least N0 hands (variance/edge/edge) in the current tax year to have a reasonable chance of avoiding the carry forward loss penalty. If you already have a win for the current tax year, you have a buffer, but if you currently are at a loss and the loss is only due to variance, you are looking at a potential tax problem.

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[vpFREE] Re: WinStar

 

---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <bornloser1537@...> wrote :

Just a wild question ...

There does not seem to be very much action at the vpFREE Oklahoma site. At least the data base says that the WinStar World Casino in Thackerville, OK (owned by Chicksaw Nation Enterprises) has NSUD, 9/6 JOB and 8/5 BP at the quarter, half and dollar levels. Does anyone here have any recent experience with this casino?

Additionally, does anyone know if there is "valid" VP at this casino and not "bingo" machines.


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I'm guessing that some of Oklahoma is Class-3, and some is not. I've looked at several of their casinos' web pages and Facebook pages and some have very strange looking machines that I do not recognize,obviously not Class-3. But I am almost positive that the casino you are speaking of in Thackerville is a major casino and Class-3. If you venture in that direction, please give us a trip report. Thanks.




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[vpFREE] WinStar

 

Just a wild question ...

There does not seem to be very much action at the vpFREE Oklahoma site. At least the data base says that the WinStar World Casino in Thackerville, OK (owned by Chicksaw Nation Enterprises) has NSUD, 9/6 JOB and 8/5 BP at the quarter, half and dollar levels. Does anyone here have any recent experience with this casino?

Additionally, does anyone know if there is "valid" VP at this casino and not "bingo" machines.

Thank you.

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