[vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 29 JUN 2013

 

Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 29 JUN 2013

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[vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 

No shocker. It bit the dust before the promotion even started. Hopefully people took my advice and did not make reservations or they are going to be swallowing some expensive funnel cakes.

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> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet
> To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
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[vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 

You just linked to a 2007 event that helped cause Caesars to remove all the decent VP and decent mgmt folks as well.

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[vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 

Revel Bad Gamblers wanted!

Well there are always progressive slots.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 

They have removed everything above $5.00 and have downgraded all games from the 99% level. According to Larry who is there now and not playing!

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From: nightoftheiguana2000 <nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 29, 2013, 1:23 PM

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "RWM" <rwmunchkin@...> wrote:

> I hear they have already removed $25 coin VP so the erosion has begun.

High rollers can usually request whatever machine they want, and get it:

http://www.brodietech.com/liontales/2007/04/lucky-me.html

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[vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "RWM" <rwmunchkin@...> wrote:
> I hear they have already removed $25 coin VP so the erosion has begun.

High rollers can usually request whatever machine they want, and get it:

http://www.brodietech.com/liontales/2007/04/lucky-me.html

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 

Larry Feldman is currently at Revel and reported that all 99% games at all denominations have been downgraded and that there is nothing available above the $5.00 level ( No $10-$25 available in the entire casino)!!! This is how they are running their great promotion!!!!!

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From: Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet
To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, June 29, 2013, 12:47 PM

 

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On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:25 PM, "seedub49" <seedub49@yahoo.com> wrote (truncated):

> 4. With that in mind, maybe even make people go to the desk and show ID to have the freeplay

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 



Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:25 PM, "seedub49" <seedub49@yahoo.com> wrote (truncated):

> 4. With that in mind, maybe even make people go to the desk and show ID to have the freeplay
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[vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 

To a man with a hammer everything looks like a nail. How they allow you to capture the freeplay is really not an issue. As Bob pointed out even if you cash the freeplay on slots you still have a large edge.

I hear they have already removed $25 coin VP so the erosion has begun.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 

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As to the case you mentioned, I would say the spirit of the bet is that if 6-5 JoB or better is available to play off your free play --- that'll be considered Revel playing fair. If the best game eligible is worse than that percentage-wise, Munchkin wins the bet

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[vpFREE] Re: Revel Bet

 

Well if someone is going to go against my advice and take this shot I suggest they make it there Monday morning cause it probably won't last beyond the first or second $100K royal.
What they're likely to do is put BIG stickers on all VP machines over $1 saying "This machine not eligible for money back promotion".
Paytables don't matter-even 6/5 JOB is a big player edge. Too big to last.
The real side bet would be-can you walk into Revel on July 31 and play $25 VP machines on this promotion?
Not a chance-unless Revel has Larry Volk's ghost programing their high-limit machines!

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "seedub49" <seedub49@...> wrote:
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> 3. Only allow freeplay on select slot machines with the minimum legal return. Limiting which machines customers can use freeplay on also makes it easier to monitor whether people are collecting freeplay for other people. I'm sure there are a lot of out-of-towners hoping to have others collect freeplay for them so that they don't have to make so many trips.
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> 5. Have a good investment strategy for the large interest free loan the customers are giving them.
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