--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
> Maybe make a drink mandatory-have one of those portable breathalizers at the bar.
Heh, that's funny. Good idea, though!
Excellent points. The black coffee crowd is not the bar top crowd. Maybe make a drink mandatory-have one of those portable breathalizers at the bar. That will scare of those killjoy black coffee drinkers with calculator souls!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
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> ---
>
>
> I guarantee you the overall quality of play is STILL pretty bad, at the BARS. This is why I have stated that it is just such a natural to have progressive video poker at a bar. If you want so-called "ploppies" playing who will feed the appetites of the pros, you can rest assured a bar environment is conducive. What is the perfect setup for a bar environment? What is the optimal video poker setup for a bar? This field could be wide open. I think I'll write a book. I'll need to think of a pen name, though.
>
-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mike
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 4:23 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Red rock adding 100 percent machines
I hate to make a crude analogy but when I was a teenager I learned that when
you found a willing hole you used it while you could get it. One never
knows what opportunities may, or more importantly may not, be around
tomorrow.
---I learned morality, ethics and honesty when I grew up.
Scot
I hate to make a crude analogy but when I was a teenager I learned that when you found a willing hole you used it while you could get it. One never knows what opportunities may, or more importantly may not, be around tomorrow.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...> wrote:
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> It's not really funny. The "van runners" have killed many promotions all
> over town. Sad actually.
>
The lone machine with $5 NSUD 3/5-Play has been removed.
Sent from my iPhone
Barona is definitely your best bet, as far as I've found anyway. Other SD
players: spread the word if you find anywhere with positive EV machines! The
best I've found at Barona is 25c 2PJW w/a 99.92% paytable. Somewhat volatile
but not too bad - 100 dollar bankroll has been lasting me all day there
lately, still waiting on my first royal...
They have FP JoB too at 99.56% (or something like that). Haven't found
anything great for deuces wild though, I would love to find FPDW in San
Diego but all of my searches have been for naught so far.
> I'm in the San Diego area and I wanted to learn optimal play for video
> poker. Is there any casino in my area which has good payout tables for Jacks
> or better or Deuces Wild? I want to learn the game but don't want to find
> out that there are no machines in my area.
> >
> > Thanks for any tips or suggestions.
>
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ALL machines make money for casinos or they'd be changed or taken out. That's why Frank's having so many issues with the M right now. I'm not buying that there's all these so-called pros tearing them up--they'd ban them and they'd ban Frank especially. Could be the royal cycle currently favors the players--much too early to tell--but in this environment the suits won't take a lot of chances. These theoretically positive machines just make less %wise than the others, and if execs had the guts to put more of them in they'd make a smaller margin - but more overall.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...> wrote:
> It's not really funny. The "van runners" have killed many promotions all over town. Sad actually.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
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>
> Even though some pros were playing a lot when the Jackpots got very high, according to what I've been told, the larger factor to the banks return having to be downgraded was that EVERYONE that was playing it, even the non-pros, were simply playing too accurately.
>
> There was a day when pros played very well and "citizens" played dreadfully. That day has apparently passed along with parachute pants and bell-bottom jeans.
>
> Because of the overall improvement in VP strategy amongst the general population, high return VP may well and truly be a thing of the past.
>
I guarantee you the overall quality of play is STILL pretty bad, at the BARS. This is why I have stated that it is just such a natural to have progressive video poker at a bar. If you want so-called "ploppies" playing who will feed the appetites of the pros, you can rest assured a bar environment is conducive. What is the perfect setup for a bar environment? What is the optimal video poker setup for a bar? This field could be wide open. I think I'll write a book. I'll need to think of a pen name, though.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
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>
> Even though some pros were playing a lot when the Jackpots got very high, according to what I've been told, the larger factor to the banks return having to be downgraded was that EVERYONE that was playing it, even the non-pros, were simply playing too accurately.
>
> There was a day when pros played very well and "citizens" played dreadfully. That day has apparently passed along with parachute pants and bell-bottom jeans.
>
> Because of the overall improvement in VP strategy amongst the general population, high return VP may well and truly be a thing of the past.
>
I guarantee you the overall quality of play is STILL pretty bad, at the BARS. This is why I have stated that it is just such a natural to have progressive video poker at a bar. If you want so-called "ploppies" playing who will feed the appetites of the pros, you can rest assured a bar environment is conducive. What is the perfect setup for a bar environment? What is the optimal video poker setup for a bar? This field could be wide open. I think I'll write a book. I'll need to think of a pen name, though.
It's not really funny. The "van runners" have killed many promotions all
over town. Sad actually.
-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
bigjohnzzz
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 1:40 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Red rock adding 100 percent machines
ROTFL. You've got me there!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
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> Hmmmm. The Westin didn't seem too happy when they had that $300 for $300"
deal and I was running a van to the shelter paying bums $100 each to sign
up.
ROTFL. You've got me there!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
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> Hmmmm. The Westin didn't seem too happy when they had that $300 for $300" deal and I was running a van to the shelter paying bums $100 each to sign up.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bigjohnzzz" <bigjohnzzz@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > A busy casino is a happy casino!
> >
>
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "st.tropez97" <st.tropez97@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bo Farrwood" <bfarrwood@> wrote:
> >
> > I played 50K at the Eastside Cannery on Sunday on 2$ Bonus
> > Poker from 12-5. I've never played here, and assumed it was
> > their best promotion. I didnt win a single 50$ freeplay.
> > Unless I just was really unlucky, It must not be based on
> > coin in?
>
> According to their website, this promo awards $50 every minute from 12-5 on Sundays. It seems very unlikely that you didn't win even one $50 during the five hours. I would have read the complete rules to make sure I was in compliance, then inquired about not winning. But of course they aren't likely to admit something went wrong.
>
> I don't play at this casino (and I don't know anyone who does since they slashed paytables and slot club benefits) but at other casinos who have had something similar, total coin-in doesn't matter. Anyone playing has an equal chance at winning whether they're playing $2 or 1c.
>
I think my sometimes-math-challenged-mind can handle this one:
Assuming true randomness (no favoritism for players on 90% reel slots, for example) and only active machines being included, then each minute, 1/number-of-active-machines is the probability of your winning freeplay that minute.
Since you played for 5 hours, 300/average-number-of-active-machines was your expectation of getting freeplay for your entire playing session. But we all know short-term volatility swamps expectation. And 5 hours is undeniably short-term.
And if there is favoritism for 90% reel slots (for example), and/or inactive machines can also be chosen each minute, then your chance of being selected for freeplay was even lower.
As a tourist, the last time I was in town I remember playing during a similar promotion at Station Casinos. I assume every machine across all Station Casinos was included, so I wasn't just "fighting" the other people at the casino I was at, I was "fighting" every player at every Station Casino in town. I played for around 4 hours, but didn't get any freeplay.
Also, I was present once when the "jumbo jackpot" was hit, so I got the freeplay awarded to all the "losers". You locals may have seen it a hundred times, but it was a unique experience for me :)
Hmmmm. The Westin didn't seem too happy when they had that $300 for $300" deal and I was running a van to the shelter paying bums $100 each to sign up.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bigjohnzzz" <bigjohnzzz@...> wrote:
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>
> A busy casino is a happy casino!
>
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!
Seriously, common sense says they must be profitable on their own, plus the players they attract are sometimes going to play other (negative-EV) games, eat at the restaurants, drink at the bars, etc.
A busy casino is a happy casino!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "sheiky2" <sheiky2@...> wrote:
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>
> So why does Red Rock ( station casino's ) keep adding 100 machines( see below), while other casino's keep pulling them.
>
> Just curious to see what other people think
>
>
> 12 days ago VP Added New: (3) 25c 100.76% DW and 25c/50c/$1 100.17% DB, 100.07% DDB, 100.15% LDW beside security podium near cashier
> 30 days ago VP
>
> Updated New: (6) 25c 100.76% DW and 25c/50c/$1 100.17% DB, 100.07% DDB, 100.15% LDW non-smoking near doors to west valet between keno and bingo
>
Sorry, I was in a hurry. I meant 9/6 jacks, a game I do not play. I'm a DW player. Sorry for the mistake.
--- On Fri, 7/22/11, mike <melbedewy1226@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: mike <melbedewy1226@hotmail.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Where to play VP in San Diego
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 11:05 AM
9-7 Jacks? Are you sure of that now-it's a 100.7% game.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, eric borwell <rosemontwestwood@...> wrote:
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> I would stongly recommend Barona. There is NSU $1 and 9/7 jacks. Plus, the people are really nice, and the place just feels good.
>
> --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Neil <orthopak@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Neil <orthopak@...>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Where to play VP in San Diego
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:53 AM
>
>
> Â
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>
>
> I'm in the San Diego area and I wanted to learn optimal play for video poker. Is there any casino in my area which has good payout tables for Jacks or better or Deuces Wild? I want to learn the game but don't want to find out that there are no machines in my area.
>
> Thanks for any tips or suggestions.
>
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I'm on my way out the door but if my quick and dirty math is right they are going to have to be over $3250 to hit 100%. Not including welfare checks, logo jackets, Pepsi 6 packs and the usual trinkets.
Yikes-Turn Out the Lights!
