I am only seeing the Wed. Mystery Multiplier for after dark! Not for the day? This is checking the B-connected site.
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 16:11:16 -0800
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015
Maybe Orleans has it too but that was not sent to me. GC was. Thanks.
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Scot, not that I care about pennies, but according to the BConnected app, you had it right before: Orleans has 30x pennies on Sundays in addition to 15x Fridays. I apologize for the formatting, posting from my phone, not sure why it's stripping carriage returns.
Regards,
JD
> On Dec 4, 2015, at 9:19 AM, 'Scot Krause' krauseinvegas@cox.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Fixed now. The 30x was actually for Gold Coast slots only. Weds mystery goes all day but two separate promos for day and night.
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> Scot
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> Scot, I couldn't understand the Orleans entry til I looked up the Orleans multiplier days on the B Connected app. I think it's got a typo where "12/25:" was inserted before "30x" instead of "15x": Dec: 15x pennies 12/4, 11 & 18; 12/25: 30x 12/6, 13, 20 & 27. 15x pennies/11x reels/7x vp; Age 50+ Weds Mystery Multiplier up to 50x. Swipe. Limits apply Should be: Dec: 15x pennies 12/4, 11 & 18; 30x 12/6, 13, 20 & 27. 12/25: 15x pennies/11x reels/7x vp; Age 50+ Weds Mystery Multiplier up to 50x. Swipe. Limits apply Also I believe the Wed 50+ mystery multipliers are only 7p-midnight. Regards, JD > On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:21 PM, 'Scot Krause' krauseinvegas@cox.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > No. > > > > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:15 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > > > > > So the 7x on Saturdays at the Gold Coast was not on your "open to the public" list???? > > ------------------------------------------ > Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler > http://queenofcomps.com/ > http://jscott.lvablog.com/ > UPDATED TAX BOOK > (Download 2015 eBook now) > > From: mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:27 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > That is not from a mailer. It is what they sent me as "open to the public." > > Scot > > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 6:58 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > I am wondering if the 7x for VP on Sundays listed for the Orleans is for everyone, or only for people who get a mailer? In the past I often haven't been able to get those kind of multipliers because I didn't get a mailer. Gold Coast is having 7x points on Saturdays, according to our mailer, but again is it only for people who get the mailer????
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015
My VP play is 3-4 years old. By the time I had the bankroll to play the larger denoms, the party was over.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015
Apologies if my come back may have appeared "thin skinned". (it wasn't)
I expect that you should be able to trust me me not to mention an "incentive", without further qualification, if it wasn't at least a "near-cash" equivalent.
In any case, there was no need to assess the value of the promo I referenced. The post was in reply to another that suggested such feeding frenzies have been few and far between in AC. (They haven't.)
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I never meant to imply that you are "talking out of your ass" Harry. I'm sorry, I just wanted more info about the 1% incentives. Keep on posting Harry, you are very knowledgeable.
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RE: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015
Maybe Orleans has it too but that was not sent to me. GC was. Thanks.
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Scot, not that I care about pennies, but according to the BConnected app, you had it right before: Orleans has 30x pennies on Sundays in addition to 15x Fridays. I apologize for the formatting, posting from my phone, not sure why it's stripping carriage returns.
Regards,
JD
> On Dec 4, 2015, at 9:19 AM, 'Scot Krause' krauseinvegas@cox.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Fixed now. The 30x was actually for Gold Coast slots only. Weds mystery goes all day but two separate promos for day and night.
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> Scot
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> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com]
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> Scot, I couldn't understand the Orleans entry til I looked up the Orleans multiplier days on the B Connected app. I think it's got a typo where "12/25:" was inserted before "30x" instead of "15x": Dec: 15x pennies 12/4, 11 & 18; 12/25: 30x 12/6, 13, 20 & 27. 15x pennies/11x reels/7x vp; Age 50+ Weds Mystery Multiplier up to 50x. Swipe. Limits apply Should be: Dec: 15x pennies 12/4, 11 & 18; 30x 12/6, 13, 20 & 27. 12/25: 15x pennies/11x reels/7x vp; Age 50+ Weds Mystery Multiplier up to 50x. Swipe. Limits apply Also I believe the Wed 50+ mystery multipliers are only 7p-midnight. Regards, JD > On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:21 PM, 'Scot Krause' krauseinvegas@cox.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > No. > > > > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:15 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > > > > > So the 7x on Saturdays at the Gold Coast was not on your "open to the public" list???? > > ------------------------------------------ > Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler > http://queenofcomps.com/ > http://jscott.lvablog.com/ > UPDATED TAX BOOK > (Download 2015 eBook now) > > From: mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:27 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > That is not from a mailer. It is what they sent me as "open to the public." > > Scot > > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 6:58 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > I am wondering if the 7x for VP on Sundays listed for the Orleans is for everyone, or only for people who get a mailer? In the past I often haven't been able to get those kind of multipliers because I didn't get a mailer. Gold Coast is having 7x points on Saturdays, according to our mailer, but again is it only for people who get the mailer????
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Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015
Scot, not that I care about pennies, but according to the BConnected app, you had it right before: Orleans has 30x pennies on Sundays in addition to 15x Fridays. I apologize for the formatting, posting from my phone, not sure why it's stripping carriage returns.
Regards,
JD
> On Dec 4, 2015, at 9:19 AM, 'Scot Krause' krauseinvegas@cox.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Fixed now. The 30x was actually for Gold Coast slots only. Weds mystery goes all day but two separate promos for day and night.
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> Scot
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> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015
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> Scot, I couldn't understand the Orleans entry til I looked up the Orleans multiplier days on the B Connected app. I think it's got a typo where "12/25:" was inserted before "30x" instead of "15x": Dec: 15x pennies 12/4, 11 & 18; 12/25: 30x 12/6, 13, 20 & 27. 15x pennies/11x reels/7x vp; Age 50+ Weds Mystery Multiplier up to 50x. Swipe. Limits apply Should be: Dec: 15x pennies 12/4, 11 & 18; 30x 12/6, 13, 20 & 27. 12/25: 15x pennies/11x reels/7x vp; Age 50+ Weds Mystery Multiplier up to 50x. Swipe. Limits apply Also I believe the Wed 50+ mystery multipliers are only 7p-midnight. Regards, JD > On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:21 PM, 'Scot Krause' krauseinvegas@cox.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > No. > > > > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:15 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > > > > > So the 7x on Saturdays at the Gold Coast was not on your "open to the public" list???? > > ------------------------------------------ > Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler > http://queenofcomps.com/ > http://jscott.lvablog.com/ > UPDATED TAX BOOK > (Download 2015 eBook now) > > From: mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:27 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > That is not from a mailer. It is what they sent me as "open to the public." > > Scot > > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 6:58 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > I am wondering if the 7x for VP on Sundays listed for the Orleans is for everyone, or only for people who get a mailer? In the past I often haven't been able to get those kind of multipliers because I didn't get a mailer. Gold Coast is having 7x points on Saturdays, according to our mailer, but again is it only for people who get the mailer????
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015
I never meant to imply that you are "talking out of your ass" Harry. I'm sorry, I just wanted more info about the 1% incentives. Keep on posting Harry, you are very knowledgeable.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015
Harry,
I vote you keep on posting, and Nordo too.
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Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015
Nordo ...
It would seem you're of the impression that I've established a track record here of talking out of my ass.
I doubt I've ever included "incentives" in the discussion of a play here that weren't at least near-cash equivalents (if not cash itself).
This exchange has gone a long way toward cementing a budding impression that I waste my time when posting here.
- H.
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Harry let's take a look at your "candy store" game at Ballys:9-6 JOB with 1% CB and 1% "incentives". First of all I would not play this game at less than dollar denomination, it would be a waste of time. Secondly how much was that 1% "incentives" worth in cold hard cash? Harry - you did not say and this is very important. Playing 659641 hands of this game perfectly (and believe me NO ONE plays perfectly) at dollar denomination yields an expectancy of $17938.94 with a standard deviation of $17938.95. These figures assume the "incentives" are worth 0 in cash. At the risk of sounding like NOTI approximately what percentage of players (playing perfectly) would lose -about 16% or about 1 in 6. At 4•659641=2638564 hands at dollars (more than a years worth of playing for most players) the game is worth $71755.75 with a standard deviation of $35877.90. What percentage of players would lose? When is the Z statistic less than -2? Same answer about 2.5%. Imagine playing over 2 1/2 million hands of JOB, over 1 year of playing that boring game and still a loser - it would drive you crazy- and that's the fate that awaits that 1 person in 40. Now don't get me wrong - this is a good game and unlike NOTI I would dabble in this game if offered in dollar or higher denomination. However I should point out 10 years ago there were far better opportunities.
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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015
Nordo ...
It would seem you're of the impression that I've established a track record here of talking out of my ass.
I doubt I've ever included "incentives" in the discussion of a play here that weren't at least near-cash equivalents (if not cash itself).
This exchange has gone a long way toward cementing a budding impression that I waste my time when posting here.
- H.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <Nordo123@...> wrote :
Harry let's take a look at your "candy store" game at Ballys:9-6 JOB with 1% CB and 1% "incentives". First of all I would not play this game at less than dollar denomination, it would be a waste of time. Secondly how much was that 1% "incentives" worth in cold hard cash? Harry - you did not say and this is very important. Playing 659641 hands of this game perfectly (and believe me NO ONE plays perfectly) at dollar denomination yields an expectancy of $17938.94 with a standard deviation of $17938.95. These figures assume the "incentives" are worth 0 in cash. At the risk of sounding like NOTI approximately what percentage of players (playing perfectly) would lose -about 16% or about 1 in 6. At 4•659641=2638564 hands at dollars (more than a years worth of playing for most players) the game is worth $71755.75 with a standard deviation of $35877.90. What percentage of players would lose? When is the Z statistic less than -2? Same answer about 2.5%. Imagine playing over 2 1/2 million hands of JOB, over 1 year of playing that boring game and still a loser - it would drive you crazy- and that's the fate that awaits that 1 person in 40. Now don't get me wrong - this is a good game and unlike NOTI I would dabble in this game if offered in dollar or higher denomination. However I should point out 10 years ago there were far better opportunities.
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Sylvia, I just thought of a game you might be interested in. I deleted your email from my phone. I'm on a road trip and can't retrieve it. If you can email me again I'll send you the information.
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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015
Harry let's take a look at your "candy store" game at Ballys:9-6 JOB with 1% CB and 1% "incentives". First of all I would not play this game at less than dollar denomination, it would be a waste of time. Secondly how much was that 1% "incentives" worth in cold hard cash? Harry - you did not say and this is very important. Playing 659641 hands of this game perfectly (and believe me NO ONE plays perfectly) at dollar denomination yields an expectancy of $17938.94 with a standard deviation of $17938.95. These figures assume the "incentives" are worth 0 in cash. At the risk of sounding like NOTI approximately what percentage of players (playing perfectly) would lose -about 16% or about 1 in 6. At 4•659641=2638564 hands at dollars (more than a years worth of playing for most players) the game is worth $71755.75 with a standard deviation of $35877.90. What percentage of players would lose? When is the Z statistic less than -2? Same answer about 2.5%. Imagine playing over 2 1/2 million hands of JOB, over 1 year of playing that boring game and still a loser - it would drive you crazy- and that's the fate that awaits that 1 person in 40. Now don't get me wrong - this is a good game and unlike NOTI I would dabble in this game if offered in dollar or higher denomination. However I should point out 10 years ago there were far better opportunities.
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RE: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015
Fixed now. The 30x was actually for Gold Coast slots only. Weds mystery goes all day but two separate promos for day and night.
Scot
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Scot, I couldn't understand the Orleans entry til I looked up the Orleans multiplier days on the B Connected app. I think it's got a typo where "12/25:" was inserted before "30x" instead of "15x": Dec: 15x pennies 12/4, 11 & 18; 12/25: 30x 12/6, 13, 20 & 27. 15x pennies/11x reels/7x vp; Age 50+ Weds Mystery Multiplier up to 50x. Swipe. Limits apply Should be: Dec: 15x pennies 12/4, 11 & 18; 30x 12/6, 13, 20 & 27. 12/25: 15x pennies/11x reels/7x vp; Age 50+ Weds Mystery Multiplier up to 50x. Swipe. Limits apply Also I believe the Wed 50+ mystery multipliers are only 7p-midnight. Regards, JD > On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:21 PM, 'Scot Krause' krauseinvegas@cox.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > No. > > > > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:15 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > > > > > So the 7x on Saturdays at the Gold Coast was not on your "open to the public" list???? > > ------------------------------------------ > Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler > http://queenofcomps.com/ > http://jscott.lvablog.com/ > UPDATED TAX BOOK > (Download 2015 eBook now) > > From: mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:27 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > That is not from a mailer. It is what they sent me as "open to the public." > > Scot > > From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 6:58 PM > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 1 DEC 2015 > > I am wondering if the 7x for VP on Sundays listed for the Orleans is for everyone, or only for people who get a mailer? In the past I often haven't been able to get those kind of multipliers because I didn't get a mailer. Gold Coast is having 7x points on Saturdays, according to our mailer, but again is it only for people who get the mailer????
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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015
Sound like you missed out on the play at Bally's about a decade ago. For close to 2 years, they regularly offered 1%(+) incentives on FPJB w/ .6% cb.
Closest thing I've seen to that situation was a tv show where chum was thrown in the water as shark bait.
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I think a lot of casinos keep the denoms low to keep the heavy AVP players away. Places like CZR don't want to give up the big denom players so they just killed the comps.
The only time I ever saw all the $1+ FB JOB taken in AC was during 10X pts or better. OK you could get one of the horrid seats in the main room of Showboat but that was about it.
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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015
Ken wrote: "I wonder how the pioneers of this industry made any money when they more generous with comps and a skim was part of their costs."
Before 65 they used real silver dollars and quarters. And I'm just taking a wild guess but I think one of these same silver quarters today goes for about $5 with a silver dollar going for about $20. There were probably some nickel machines, but I doubt the casinos were generous with the comps on those. I'm thinking the San Francisco Liberty Bells used nickels. Also, they didn't use expensive carpet, instead they used sawdust like in a horse barn.
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