Re: [vpFREE] tier credits

 

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From: The Wild Joker jokerswild1203@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [vpFREE] tier credits

Golden Nugget has four machine's with full-pay video poker. They're way in the back near the high-limit room. You get almost no points for playing them, at least the quarter's I play. <g> They are pretty generous with stuff for people playing slots, even pennies. I never counted out how much it take's to earn a point, so I hope this helps.
Ned C.The Wild Joker

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:13 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] tier credits

I have called and emailed the Golden Nugget in AC a couple of times to try
and find out how much coin in is needed to get a tier credit for both
video poker and regular slots.
No one on the phone can give me an answer and my emails to not
get answered.
any one that knows this answer it would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [vpFREE] Bob Dancer Column - 20 SEP 2016

 

I made a mistake like that once, and I bought 2 more kings for a quad. I wasn't proud, but I was happy.

I wonder how Bob would have reacted to that result ?

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A.P.

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Re: [vpFREE] tier credits

 

Golden Nugget has four machine's with full-pay video poker. They're way in the back near the high-limit room. You get almost no points for playing them, at least the quarter's I play. <g> They are pretty generous with stuff for people playing slots, even pennies. I never counted out how much it take's to earn a point, so I hope this helps.
Ned C.The Wild Joker

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:13 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] tier credits

I have called and emailed the Golden Nugget in AC a couple of times to try
and find out how much coin in is needed to get a tier credit for both
video poker and regular slots.
No one on the phone can give me an answer and my emails to not
get answered.
any one that knows this answer it would be greatly appreciated.

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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer Column - 20 SEP 2016

 

Bob wrote: "Over time, my actual results and my EV results will be fairly close. They will never (okay, extremely rarely) be EXACTLY the same, but close enough."

Another, maybe more concise way to think about this: If you play forever, your results won't be the EV, instead you have an infinite distribution of dollar results whose average is the EV. If you were playing with an edge, 99.9999999...% of your possible results would be positive. The more you play a game with an edge, the more likely you are to have positive net results.

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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer Column - 20 SEP 2016

 

Bob wrote: "Over time, my actual results and my EV results will be fairly close. They will never (okay, extremely rarely) be EXACTLY the same, but close enough."

"Fairly close" is subjective. Percentage wise it becomes close, however, a real world gambler is subject to their bankroll and dollar amounts and the limitations of mortality and also the IRS. If you were to play a breakeven game, there would be no edge to either side, and the dollar standard deviation would always increase the more you played, $sd = $betsize x sqrt(variance x hands). This is why if you play a breakeven game with a limited bankroll against an opponent with an unlimited bankroll, you will eventually most likely go bust. Bust is the most likely end result, not breakeven. There is an increasingly smaller chance that you will survive, so that your average result will be breakeven, but the more you play, the more likely you are to go bust. If both you and your opponent have the same bankroll, then your odds are 50-50, half the time you go bust, the other half you've doubled up and busted your opponent. Again, breakeven is not the end result, although it is the average result.

Now, if you're playing with an edge, things change a bit. That's because edge (EV x hands) increases faster than sd (sqrt(variance x hands)) so that edge eventually equals and then exceeds sd, and the more you play, the greater are your chances of being ahead. So, assuming an infinite bankroll and an edge, the end result will be that you are ahead. Your average result will be the EV, but you will still have a distribution of possible dollar results around the average result.

The inflection point where the edge equals an sd has been called N0 or Nzero, not by me, I think a blackjack player coined the term. Since the IRS breaks your gambling career into individual years and you can't legally carry forward a losing year, you should select your play such that you at least exceed the Nzero for each calendar year. Canadians don't pay taxes on gambling, so there you need only plan to exceed Nzero for the duration of your career, assuming your goal is to quit ahead.




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[vpFREE] Bob Dancer Column - 20 SEP 2016

 

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Dollar difference between 2 plays

 

Do you have the version of Video Poker for Winners that claims a pair of jacks is different than a pair of queens on a TJQ suited board?

Okay. I'll bite. What game are you talking about?

If it's DDB, KK is listed above 'QJT' while JJ and QQ are listed below. Is that what you're referring to?

If so, it's not really the value of KK that's different from JJ and QQ but rather the value of 'QJT' is reduced when there are two kings in the hand. If this concept is foreign to you (as it is to many players), consider attending the advanced NSU class tomorrow if you're in Vegas. We discuss penalty cards of various stripes in that class and the concept will be much clearer to you after the class.

Assuming you're not specifically listing penalty card rules in the strategy, how would you suggest we display this?

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