RE: [vpFREE] Re: hrh

 

What is a "nouns spin?"

Scot

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Subject: [vpFREE] Re: hrh

Just came back from HRH and the point requirement is correct. They have a
promo now that for every 300 points you get to spin the electronic wheel at
the kiosk. Limit is 3 spins. I got a nouns spin as well. I ended up getting
2500 points a spin for a total of 10k. From talking to employees there I
gather they made the point requirement higher on poker but will be having
better promos. This one isn't bad, there's some big prizes on that wheel.

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[vpFREE] Re: Ultimate X: Has anyone else seen 9/6 Jacks, 8/5 Bonus, and 10/6/5 DB?

 

Jason Pawloski wrote:
> So now we have a game where 10 play pays back less than 3 play. Is
> there anything wrong with that? No, there's not. But if someone
> is playing 100 credits, it seems like bad form to gyp them slightly
> compared to someone who is only playing 30 credits. So IGT must
> have taken an improbable hand or hands, and slightly increased the
> multiplier to prevent the descending payback.

Very fine discussion up to this point ... but, honestly, when was the last time you saw anyone on the casino side of things who was disturbed by a "slight" (or even "major") player gyp? ;)

The driving force between this mechanism in order to avoid a payback deterioration is that regulations in some jurisdictions stipulate that a player's expected return cannot be diminished solely as a consequence of an increase in wager on a given game.

Such regs also come into play with MultiStrike, where the mechanism used to preserve return as you increase number of levels in play is tweaking of Free Ride frequencies.

- H.

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[vpFREE] Re: hrh

 

That was last months promo. This month is the kiosk wheel spin as I mentioned earlier. Just started today.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, James Thompson <jamesgthompson@...> wrote:
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RE: [vpFREE] Re: hrh

I was there Tuesday and the promo had five shot glasses you could pick only one. But you had a one in five shot at 100 in free play. Not bad.


James Thompson

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: gofastnismo@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 02:12:28 +0000
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: hrh






Just came back from HRH and the point requirement is correct. They have a promo now that for every 300 points you get to spin the electronic wheel at the kiosk. Limit is 3 spins. I got a nouns spin as well. I ended up getting 2500 points a spin for a total of 10k. From talking to employees there I gather they made the point requirement higher on poker but will be having better promos. This one isn't bad, there's some big prizes on that wheel.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "st.tropez97" <st.tropez97@...> wrote:

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> > James Thompson <jamesgthompson@> wrote:

> >

> > HRH is changing their Players Club requirements for

> > video poker players. Starting today it will take

> > 4 dollars to get 1 point. Just more bad news. I

> > was there Tuesday and didn't see any 8/5 bonus

> > multiline in quarters. Sounds like I missed

> > something?

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> The sign I saw today at the Hard Rock LV slot club says that effective 9/1/11, it takes $2 coin-in to earn one point on video poker. And "Optimum" video poker takes $4 per point. Used to be $1 per point since last October.

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> Apparently they consider the 25c Spin Poker Deluxe with 8/5 BP to be "Optimum" since it was $4 per point. The single-line 50c and $1 machines with 8/5 BP down the steps from hotel registration were $2 per point. I played both these today.

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> If you're looking for 25c 8/5 BP multi-line, I believe these machines listed in vpFREE2 are the only ones remaining:

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> (2) 25c Spin Poker

> (1) regular Mulit-Strike

> (1) 5-play Multi-Strike

> (2) Multi-Strike Super Times Pay

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: hrh

Thanks for correcting me. I appreciate the update.

James Thompson

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From: st.tropez97@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 15:48:45 -0700
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: hrh






> James Thompson <jamesgthompson@...> wrote:

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> HRH is changing their Players Club requirements for

> video poker players. Starting today it will take

> 4 dollars to get 1 point. Just more bad news. I

> was there Tuesday and didn't see any 8/5 bonus

> multiline in quarters. Sounds like I missed

> something?

The sign I saw today at the Hard Rock LV slot club says that effective 9/1/11, it takes $2 coin-in to earn one point on video poker. And "Optimum" video poker takes $4 per point. Used to be $1 per point since last October.

Apparently they consider the 25c Spin Poker Deluxe with 8/5 BP to be "Optimum" since it was $4 per point. The single-line 50c and $1 machines with 8/5 BP down the steps from hotel registration were $2 per point. I played both these today.

If you're looking for 25c 8/5 BP multi-line, I believe these machines listed in vpFREE2 are the only ones remaining:

(2) 25c Spin Poker

(1) regular Mulit-Strike

(1) 5-play Multi-Strike

(2) Multi-Strike Super Times Pay




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[vpFREE] Re: hrh

 


Just came back from HRH and the point requirement is correct. They have a promo now that for every 300 points you get to spin the electronic wheel at the kiosk. Limit is 3 spins. I got a nouns spin as well. I ended up getting 2500 points a spin for a total of 10k. From talking to employees there I gather they made the point requirement higher on poker but will be having better promos. This one isn't bad, there's some big prizes on that wheel.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "st.tropez97" <st.tropez97@...> wrote:
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> > James Thompson <jamesgthompson@> wrote:
> >
> > HRH is changing their Players Club requirements for
> > video poker players. Starting today it will take
> > 4 dollars to get 1 point. Just more bad news. I
> > was there Tuesday and didn't see any 8/5 bonus
> > multiline in quarters. Sounds like I missed
> > something?
>
> The sign I saw today at the Hard Rock LV slot club says that effective 9/1/11, it takes $2 coin-in to earn one point on video poker. And "Optimum" video poker takes $4 per point. Used to be $1 per point since last October.
>
> Apparently they consider the 25c Spin Poker Deluxe with 8/5 BP to be "Optimum" since it was $4 per point. The single-line 50c and $1 machines with 8/5 BP down the steps from hotel registration were $2 per point. I played both these today.
>
> If you're looking for 25c 8/5 BP multi-line, I believe these machines listed in vpFREE2 are the only ones remaining:
>
> (2) 25c Spin Poker
> (1) regular Mulit-Strike
> (1) 5-play Multi-Strike
> (2) Multi-Strike Super Times Pay
>

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Re: [vpFREE] Ultimate X: Has anyone else seen 9/6 Jacks, 8/5 Bonus, and 10/6/5 DB?

 

Gather round children, and let me lay a little science on this game we call
"Ultimate X." Specifically, regarding why the 4 of a kind multipliers are
different for 3 play, 5 play and 10 play.

In case you haven't heard, Ultimate X is ungodly difficult to calculate.
There's a lot of fancy schmancy clever tricks used to explicitly calculate
the payback.

The math behind Ultimate X can't be calculated on a hand-by-hand basis. The
vast majority of other games, this is no problem. 3 play 9/6 jacks can be
analyzed as a single hand. Since each hand is independent, it doesn't matter
if you are playing 3 play or if you are playing 100 play.

Ultimate X is different. On a given hand, your strategy for optimal play
depends on (1) the cards you are dealt and (2) the multipliers you have.
This is where hands lose their independence from each other.

Now, there's a little mathematical oddity that arises. The more hands you
play, given the same paytable, your payback percentage actually goes down
(slightly). Why? It has to do with the number of different multiplier
states, and the possible ways you get into other multiplier states.
Obviously 10 play has more multiplier states than 5 play, and 5 play has
more than 3 play, and 3 play has more than single line. As it turns out,
it's "easier" to get into a state with a slightly less average or sum
multiplier in 10 play than on 3 play.

So now we have a game where 10 play pays back less than 3 play. Is there
anything wrong with that? No, there's not. But if someone is playing 100
credits, it seems like bad form to gyp them slightly compared to someone who
is only playing 30 credits. So IGT must have taken an improbable hand or
hands, and slightly increased the multiplier to prevent the descending
payback.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:23 PM, tomflush <tomflush@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

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> Hey mitch
> the multipliers are always best on 10 play, worst on 3 play.
> I have never seen those super full pay versions of ULT-X.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitchell" <tsai@cs.ucla.edu>
> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:02 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Ultimate X: Has anyone else seen 9/6 Jacks, 8/5 Bonus,
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> 10/6/5 DB?
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> > Normally 8/6 Jacks, 7/5 Bonus, and 9/6/5 DB are full-pay for Ultimate.
> > The multipliers have been dropped a little to keep the percentages under
> > 100%.
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> > Only time I've seen variants on the Ultimate multipliers.
> > Has anyone else seen this before?
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[vpFREE] Re: hrh

 

> James Thompson <jamesgthompson@...> wrote:
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> HRH is changing their Players Club requirements for
> video poker players. Starting today it will take
> 4 dollars to get 1 point. Just more bad news. I
> was there Tuesday and didn't see any 8/5 bonus
> multiline in quarters. Sounds like I missed
> something?

The sign I saw today at the Hard Rock LV slot club says that effective 9/1/11, it takes $2 coin-in to earn one point on video poker. And "Optimum" video poker takes $4 per point. Used to be $1 per point since last October.

Apparently they consider the 25c Spin Poker Deluxe with 8/5 BP to be "Optimum" since it was $4 per point. The single-line 50c and $1 machines with 8/5 BP down the steps from hotel registration were $2 per point. I played both these today.

If you're looking for 25c 8/5 BP multi-line, I believe these machines listed in vpFREE2 are the only ones remaining:

(2) 25c Spin Poker
(1) regular Mulit-Strike
(1) 5-play Multi-Strike
(2) Multi-Strike Super Times Pay

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[vpFREE] hrh

HRH is changing their Players Club requirements for video poker players. Starting today it will take 4 dollars to get 1 point. Just more bad news. I was there Tuesday and didn't see any 8/5 bonus multiline in quarters. Sounds like I missed something?

james thompson

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[vpFREE] Re: Harrah's Backrooms and Trespasses 86 year old Great Grandmother

 

OK Mr Barton since you're such a big contributor here please give us some new VP knowledge. By the way for you HRH quarter players there is a somewhat new bank of 4 machines near the entrance of the HRH store that has 9/7 DB. 8/5 BP and 9/6 DDB. There is a few other games on them that I didn't check.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Fred barton <bnbrighton@...> wrote:
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> Correct me if I am wrong but I thought this site was devoted to Video Poker. Not ex marines telling us how tough they are!!
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> From: gofastnismo <gofastnismo@...>
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:37 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Harrah's Backrooms and Trespasses 86 year old Great Grandmother
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> Please dont remind me of that.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, MHS <mspevack@> wrote:
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> > Actually it starts in the pre-induction physical, just a foretaste of
> > what is to come when the subject turns about 50 or so.
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> > On 8/30/2011 8:17 PM, Richard Long wrote:
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> > > Someone had a bad experience in the showers at boot camp?
> > >
> > > From: gofastnismo <gofastnismo@ <mailto:gofastnismo%40yahoo.com>>
> > > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:14 PM
> > > Subject: FW: [vpFREE] Re: Harrah's Backrooms and Trespasses 86 year
> > > old Great Grandmother
> > >
> > > Im a former Marine. That is a whole different ballgame and probably
> > > where my touchiness came from.
> > >
> > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>, MHS
> > > <mspevack@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 8/30/2011 5:09 PM, gofastnismo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > have a big hatred for being touched by people I dont know. Ive never
> > > > > been put in that position and probably will never be so Im not too
> > > > > worried about it.
> > > > >
> > > > Someone has never been in the military, specifically the Army.
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[vpFREE] Re: My Vegas Trip Photos from last year

 

Nice vid. All the fancy joints.
See where your coming from. Had database open as each sign was shown.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "popinjay999" <popinjay999@...> wrote:
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> I know I posted this elsewhere but I don't think I posted this to vpfree. Here's some photos from last year if anyone wants to look at them.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrMwLHFNt0A
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[vpFREE] Re: Wanted: Silverton acg buy 1 get 1 free buffet coupon

 


some buffet coupons cannot be used for anyone under 21.

> My girlfriend is taking her kids to the buffet so if anyone has one of these coupons, let me know and I can pick it up today. Thanks, Bill 702.425.5769
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