[vpFREE] Re: Mystic Lodge Casino � Henderson

 

The Merchant replied "This groupon is only for new rewards members"

Typical Groupon

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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> , "westie2f"
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[vpFREE] Re: Mystic Lodge Casino � Henderson

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa" <viajo1964@...> wrote:
> Did anyone ever find out the rules for this groupon? There are 6 questions asked with no answers on the site….do we have to play through $60 like promotional credits I would imagine?
Lisa

Someone named Marc M. posted the following in response to the various questions:

What it means is that you sign up for our rewards program and we give you a card, and on that card we preload $60.00 worth of money that you play. this money is real, so you play and if you win it is yours to keep playing with or cash out.

He made a 2nd post:
This groupon is only for new rewards members

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Mystic Lodge Casino - Henderson

 

I understand the concerns on this one such as are these onetime use vouchers
for table games which would halve the value. (Do they have table games?)

But as far as Groupon is concerned I have been nothing but extremely
satisfied with the dozen or so I have used in the past. My experience has
been to get exactly what I expected by reading the fine print of the Groupon
before I bought.

Also, I have not had to try it yet but Groupon claims to return your
purchase on any deal you are not satisfied with.

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
laserjobs
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 9:19 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Mystic Lodge Casino - Henderson

In my Groupon experience it probably has conditions that are not favorable.
Is it good for existing players club members? What machines/table games is
it good on? Is this for promotional machines only (think Hooters Casino).
Groupon has always been a bit scammy to me an I wish they would claify the
conditions on the offers better.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> , "westie2f"
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Lodge Casino. Is anyone familiar with the casino and know if there is
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: latest medical news

 

good luck girl

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To: Misscraps <Misscraps@aol.com>
Cc: Sandi Benditt <sandi@siona.org>; Mark Sheldon <mpsshadow@gmail.com>; vpFREE <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>; Basia <basiaev@gmail.com>; Jonathan Gleich <Jon@macgeek.com>; Alexandra West <anwest75@hotmail.com>; Amber Ricci <ambernet@hawaii.rr.com>; orlnews <orlnews@ibsys.com>; Karen Monroe <karenmonroelvnv@gmail.com>; mdeerfie <mdeerfie@juno.com>; Hope Leibowitz <tiki@interlog.com>; lvhousefinder <lvhousefinder@yahoo.com>; Dale <ddinucci@verizon.net>; Thomas Martin <tom77pow@cox.net>
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Subject: [vpFREE] Re: latest medical news

In hospital, very tired, they took chest tube out. Will probably be here a couple more days. I don't know. Might send me to rehab hospital. This is worse than knee surgery.
Love, Linda.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Mystic Lodge Casino � Henderson

 

Did anyone ever find out the rules for this groupon? There are 6 questions
asked with no answers on the site….do we have to play through $60 like
promotional credits I would imagine?

Lisa

I was in there a few months ago and the VP is horrible. That said, I just
purchased the groupon anyway. It would be hard not to make a profit even
with horrible pay schedules when you are getting $60 in free play for $20.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> , "westie2f"
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Lodge Casino. Is anyone familiar with the casino and know if there is
anything playable?
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> http://www.groupon.com/las-vegas/
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[vpFREE] Re: Short term vs Long term

 

Wow thanks! I got a lot more data than I was expecting. I had almost no opinion on this issue myself, and I certainly had no idea what other people thought on the subject before posing this question.

I now have a really good idea what people are thinking and saying about this apparently very subjective and personal topic.

~FK

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[vpFREE] Re: Mystic Lodge Casino – Henderson

 

In my Groupon experience it probably has conditions that are not favorable. Is it good for existing players club members? What machines/table games is it good on? Is this for promotional machines only (think Hooters Casino). Groupon has always been a bit scammy to me an I wish they would claify the conditions on the offers better.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "westie2f" <westie2f@...> wrote:
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> Today's Groupon for Las Vegas is $20 for $60 worth of gaming at Mystic Lodge Casino. Is anyone familiar with the casino and know if there is anything playable?
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> http://www.groupon.com/las-vegas/
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[vpFREE] Re: M Progressives

 

I never refereed to Bonus Poker Aces in my post. Ive never known anyone to actually play this game as a positive EV game. For gods sake look at the figures for the Ace bonus. Talk about praying for a miracle hand. A royal has 8 times the probability and the return is so minuscule.
Hand Pays Permutations Probability Return
ACE$- or -ACE$ 800 335,325,696 0.000003 0.002692

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: M Progressives

 

I would call 8/5 Bonus Aces more than "barely" over 99%. The last I looked, which has been a while, there were at least 13 of them there.

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[vpFREE] Re: Long-Term

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "5-card" <5-card@...> wrote:
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> With perfect strategy a $1 9/6 DDB player after 2,783,536 hands has a 99% confidence of having a loss between $2,783 and $281,137.

Long term and short term aren't strict mathematical terms. They mean different things to different people. I think the commnon misconception is that once I hit long term, I'll be at 100.76% playing deuces wild. That isn't true. I wrote a paper on long term a while ago and posted it on the files section but it has since disappeared. I will have to look it up.

For JOB, I have to play 1,293,635 hands to have a 99% chance of being +/- 1%. So, after 6,468,175 coin in, I have a 99% chance of within 64,682 coins of expected value.

In 1,293,635 hands I have will average a hair over 32 royals. Only 75% of the time will I be +/- 6 royals from that average value. That means 25% of the time, I'll be at least 28,000 coins further away from expected value ( +/- 7 roayls different). In JOB, the royal is about 85% of the variance. Think of video poker as 2 games going on at the same time. One is all the pay hands except for the royal and the other is the royal. The first one is pretty well behaved after 1.2 million hands. The number of royals, not so much. Because it is such a high pay and infrequent hand, it adds 85% of the variance but is only 2% of the over all payback.

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[vpFREE] Re: M Progressives

 


8/5 BP is barely a playable game and is common in half the casinos out there. This is usually my last resort game if nothing else is playable. As I have said before I prefer good pay tables over large cash back. The only other game that is barely over 99% is a few 9/7 DB machines. Funny thing is last time I looked at the bonus poker single line in the high limit it was 7/5 at the $2 and $5 level. DB was at 9/6 in high limit as well. Since when did pay tables get worse when the limits were that much higher. This may have changed since I last looked but I doubt it.

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> In addition to the progressives already in place, management could offer a selection of 99+% games, and then watch the bottom line effects of the behavior of the rec players attracted by them.
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[vpFREE] Re: Mystic Lodge Casino � Henderson

 

I was in there a few months ago and the VP is horrible. That said, I just purchased the groupon anyway. It would be hard not to make a profit even with horrible pay schedules when you are getting $60 in free play for $20.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "westie2f" <westie2f@...> wrote:
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> Today's Groupon for Las Vegas is $20 for $60 worth of gaming at Mystic Lodge Casino. Is anyone familiar with the casino and know if there is anything playable?
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> http://www.groupon.com/las-vegas/
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[vpFREE] Mystic Lodge Casino – Henderson

 

Today's Groupon for Las Vegas is $20 for $60 worth of gaming at Mystic Lodge Casino. Is anyone familiar with the casino and know if there is anything playable?

http://www.groupon.com/las-vegas/

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