[vpFREE] Video Keno, was Re: Gambling article by another Guru -

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>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000"
> <nightoftheiguana2000@> wrote:
> >
> > 1-2-22-422-7000 7-spot is not that hard to find. Similar to a fair
> > reel slot. You're getting good theoretical, combine it with a
bonus,
> > promo or progressive and you could be in the money.
> >
>

I'm not that bad at formatting. Something happened in cyberspace. I
have no clue why it came out like that. So I'll start over and write
it like a normal post.

The payoff for three of seven is 1 and the chance is 5.7 This
contributes 17.54% payback.

The payoff for four of seven is 2 and the chance is 19.16. This
contributes 10.44% payback.

The payoff for five of seven is 22 and the chance is 115.74. This
contributes 19.01% payback.

The payoff for six of seven is 422 and the chance is 1,366.12. This
contributes 30.89% payback.

The payoff for seven of seven is 7000 and the chance is 40,984. This
contributes 17.08% payback.

The percentage that each hit contributes to the payback is determined
by dividing the payoff by the chance.

This game comes in at 94.96%.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans



In a message dated 1/19/2008 3:01:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
mickeycrimm@yahoo.com writes:

Then set the machine on the lowest denom
and bet one coin at a time.

Some of you know that I do Secret Shopping jobs. Recently while at a major
Strip casino (won't say which) I put twenty into a machine and ordered a
drink. Was playing one coin (they don't give me a lot of money to gamble with)
and got my drink. Now the bartender stood over me and in a very officious way
said, "If you want to be comped, you have to play max coins." Very
embarrassing (if I'd been a real guest) and I imagine he'll hear about it once the
review goes in.

Karen

"She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you
would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot."
- Mark Twain

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[vpFREE] Video Keno, was Re: Gambling article by another Guru -

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000"
<nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:
> > What does the 3-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered? For instance does
it
> > pay 1 for 1, or 2 for 1?
> > What does the 4-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
> > What does the 5-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
> > What does the 6-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
> > What does the 7-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
>
> 1-2-22-422-7000 7-spot is not that hard to find. Similar to a fair
> reel slot. You're getting good theoretical, combine it with a bonus,
> promo or progressive and you could be in the money.
>

I'm not very good at formatting on a computer. I just don't know the
right buttons to push.

HIT PAYOFF CHANCE Payback %
3 of 7 1 5.7 .1754
4 of 7 2 19.16 .1044
5 of 7 22 115.74 .1901
6 of 7 422 1366.12 .3089
7 of 7 7000 40984 .1708

The percentage that each hit contributes to the payback is determined
by dividing PAYOFF by CHANCE.

This game comes in at 94.96%.

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[vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, b.glazer@... wrote:
>
> Interestingly, it sounds like you don't LIKE to drink and play at
the same time -- for me, it's a playing decision -- I know that
alcohol impairs people, and have no reason to assume I'm a special
exception, and I don't want to make mistakes while playing,
especially when I might not even realize I'm making them - so I don't
drink alcohol while playing - anything - unless the game is a no-
brainer. When I was younger, a friend and I used to go into the
bacarrat pit, when the limits were much lower, and make off-setting
bets of the minimum amount, me on the bank and him on the player --
thus assuring we'd pay about 0.5% (or whatever the commission was on
wins) of our action --- and then we'd drink as much as we could get
them to bring us. Drinks cost us tips and the 0.5%, and half the fun
was that this was not very well received in the stuffy baccarat pit.
>
>
>

I'm in action so much that I don't consider it playing. I consider
it to be working. If I'm drinking while working then I'm drinking on
the job. Most people don't drink on the job. I guess I'm from that
mold.

As far as hustling drinks goes, it's any easy thing to do in
casinos. Take downtown LV. Just go to a bar in one of the casinos,
get the bartender's attention, pull out a roll of bills, peel off a
benjamin and stick it in the machine--in full view of the bartender--
while orderiing your drink. Then set the machine on the lowest denom
and bet one coin at a time.

Vegas bartenders are trained to size you up. If you put your money
in the machine before the bartender gets to you, you will notice that
when he/she does come over they will be looking down at the machine
while taking your order to see if you are playing, what denom you are
playing, and how many credits you have. This is to determine if you
are a sucker or a hustler.

They get all kinds of hustlers trying to take them off so it's a
precaution they use. This is why you should prefer the technique of
letting them see your bankroll and the big bill you put in the
machine. You are now a sucker in their eyes and they don't think
twice before fetching you the drink.

After the bartender delivers the drink and gets busy elswhere hit the
cashout button and make your exit. When you finish your drink just
stop off at the next bar and pull the same trick. You'll be drunker
than a pig in no time at a cost of a couple of bucks.

>
>
>
> My 55 y.o. brother-in-law is the same way - a life of smoking,
eating, drinking, and riding motorcycles as much as he wants, without
any consequences. Don't worry about how to get to the doctor,
they'll take you the way they took him - in a helicopter and/or
ambulance - when he finally had his heart attack last summer.
>
> --BG
>

My Great Uncle Alvin chain-smoked Prince Albert in a Can. Rolled
them up himself. He was a very unceremonious drinker. He would just
open the jug and start chugging. He was a disgrace to my highly
religious Grandmother, his little sister.

One morning they found Uncle Alvin dead at his house. My Grandfather
went to investigate. When he got back he reported to my Grandmother
that there was a huge pile of whiskey bottles in the backyard.

My Grandmother looked at me while shaking her head and said "The poor
man drank and smoked himself to death."

He was only 89 years old. What a shame.

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[vpFREE] Video Keno, was Re: Gambling article by another Guru -

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
> What does the 3-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered? For instance does it
> pay 1 for 1, or 2 for 1?
> What does the 4-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
> What does the 5-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
> What does the 6-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
> What does the 7-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?

1-2-22-422-7000 7-spot is not that hard to find. Similar to a fair
reel slot. You're getting good theoretical, combine it with a bonus,
promo or progressive and you could be in the money.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2...


In a message dated 1/19/2008 3:16:25 PM Central Standard Time,
marvele66@yahoo.com writes:

I think
many more people(gamblers) need to worry about their bad eating habits
and obesity before they worry about second hand smoking.

I forgot to mention I'm also not Rob singer clone as Drain mentioned a
week back.

Are you kidding me? Spoken like a true addicted smoker who thinks they have
a right to light up and spread the effets of their cancerous habit anywhere
they desire.

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[vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2008

> In Nevada practically all of the politicians are owned by the casino
> industry. So you are probably going to have to wait until the
> National Smoking Ban goes into effect before smoking is knocked off
> the casinos floors in Nevada. But the NSB is probably not that far
> down the road.
>
National Smoking Ban.

If the Dems win it will exist because they want full health care for
everyone and it would be a way to reduce costs.

If the Repubs win it will exist because they cater to big business and
insurance companies are tired of paying for health care for smokers.

If I win, it won't exist because I feel everybody should be able to
kill themselves as they see fit. However, if you blow smoke in
somebody's face they can hit you with a bat, since you did just
assault them with a deadly weapon.

-Dave

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[vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2008


> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Sommer wrote:

> > >I think if a single strip casino decided to go "smoke free" it
> would
> > >enjoy an increase in business and profits if all else stayed the
> same.
> > >Yes they'd lose some smoker business but gain all the non-
smoking
> > >couples they could handle because they'd be the only one. I
> believe
> > >we'll see a drastic move like this from a property at some time
in
> the
> > >future -- likely one where profits are slipping in a last ditch
> attempt
> > >at publicity and recovery.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > The last casino in Las Vegas that tried going smoke free did not
> last
> > long before going broke, which was not that long ago.
> >
> > Why doesn't everyone really say what outlawing smoking really
is?
> It's
> > social engineering and politicians that want power over people to
> take
> > away their rights. Seat belt laws, helmet laws and many more
> similar
> > laws are all the same.
> >
> > Bob

I vpFree@yahoogroups.com "gimmeaquad"

> But that was well before AC enacted legislation as well as well
> before the bars/taverns had to adapt to it. Let's hope we see some
> property have the balls to convert to smoke free.
>
> GimmeaQuad
>

In Nevada practically all of the politicians are owned by the casino
industry. So you are probably going to have to wait until the
National Smoking Ban goes into effect before smoking is knocked off
the casinos floors in Nevada. But the NSB is probably not that far
down the road.

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[vpFREE] Re: Harrah's "Privileges" Calendar for January/February

> Did HKC recently put in something worth playing?

No. I only play some deuces wild there of the .01/.05/.25 cent variety
on the standard single play, some nickel STP, occasional spin poker and
one cent 100 play. Nothing in Deuces Wild over 97% from what I can
decipher.
Bill

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[vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2008

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Sommer - Top of the World Coins
<NL7HT@...> wrote:
>
>
> >I think if a single strip casino decided to go "smoke free" it
would
> >enjoy an increase in business and profits if all else stayed the
same.
> >Yes they'd lose some smoker business but gain all the non-smoking
> >couples they could handle because they'd be the only one. I
believe
> >we'll see a drastic move like this from a property at some time in
the
> >future -- likely one where profits are slipping in a last ditch
attempt
> >at publicity and recovery.
> >
>
>
>
> The last casino in Las Vegas that tried going smoke free did not
last
> long before going broke, which was not that long ago.
>
> Why doesn't everyone really say what outlawing smoking really is?
It's
> social engineering and politicians that want power over people to
take
> away their rights. Seat belt laws, helmet laws and many more
similar
> laws are all the same.
>
> Bob
>
But that was well before AC enacted legislation as well as well
before the bars/taverns had to adapt to it. Let's hope we see some
property have the balls to convert to smoke free.

GimmeaQuad

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling article by another Guru -

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Robert Pickett <robert.pickett70@...>
wrote:
>
> I don't know anything about video keno but my wife saved my behind
by winning $1750 on a quater video keno bet while I was losing more
than that playing full pay video poker on our last visit to LV. I
know the math doesn't justfy playing video keno but as all the books
and articles I've read, luck is an important part of winning no
matter what game you play. I'm sticking to video poker but I will
let my wife do her thing.
> Robert
>
>

I'm like you when it comes to telling relatives how to gamble. My
mother and sister sometimes visit and they play all the bad stuff.
Why should I mess up their fun. Their only in town for a few days
anyway.

$1750 on a quarter bet would indicate that the solid seven payed 7000
for 1. The chances of hitting a solid seven (per Stanford Wong and
Wizard of Odds) is 1 in 40,984, roughly the same as a royal in video
poker.

With a royal paying 800 for one on a 1 in 40,000 chance it represents
about 2% of the payback.

With a solid seven paying 7000 for one on a 1 in 41,000 chance it
represents about 17% of the payback.

I'm guessing you were betting $1.25 per game while she was betting 25
cents per game. In hard currency she probably had a higher
theoretical loss rate between top line hits than you.

If you can come up with the entire payscale of the particular video
keno game she plays I will be glad to break the whole thing down for
you. It would only take a few minutes of my time.

I would just need to know:

What does the 3-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered? For instance does it
pay 1 for 1, or 2 for 1?

What does the 4-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
What does the 5-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
What does the 6-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?
What does the 7-out-of-7 pay per coin wagered?

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[vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2008

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tralfamidorgooglycrackers"
<tralfamidorgooglycrackers@...> wrote:
>
> I often wonder, when considering the effect of a (the) smoking ban
> on the bar businesses, only the NEGATIVE impact is considered. The
> story is always about the (hypothetical) ghastly huge terrible
> impact on those businesses from smokers who will no longer
patronize
> those establishments. What about the NONsmokers who will now be
more
> inclined to patronize those establishments now that they won't have
> to cope with cigarette smoke?
>
> I remember that I really liked the food at PT's Pubs, but I was
> dissuaded from going there to eat because I knew that I would have
> to inhale shit-clouds to get to and from the eating area, and that
> the smoke inevitably would drift into the eating areas. I also
might
> have gone there and enjoyed a beer while watching the football game-
-
> if not for the inevitability of someone next to me lighting up a
> stink-stick.
>
> TIME AND TIME again, actual practice has shown that banning smoking
> in a given establishment, whether it's a casino, bar, restaurant,
or
> brothel, INCREASES that establishment's business--even if that
> business is one traditionally associated with smoking, such as---a
> casino, bar, or restaurant.
>
All people are creatures of habit. Smokers will learn to adapt to it
or just do their drinking at home. I personally have never smoked
but breathed in a lot of second hand smoke.

I think the people in charge (lawmakers) are finally listening to the
majority of us who don't smoke and are making laws that reflect the
majority.

GimmeaQuad

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