[vpFREE] Gambling With an Edge Special Interview with Dr. McCown

 

Dr. McCown was the host and I was the guest.

I have just posted a special not-aired show where Dr. William McCown interviews myself and three top VP professionals including my old boss.

It's not one of our regular shows, but I think you'll all find it very interesting. The main goal was to give the doctor his first access to folks in our profession. We wanted to see if we could identify any common personality traits that might be insulating professional players from the more negative aspects of gambling, for the possible purpose of developing new treatments strategies.

You'll have to be the judge if we succeeded.

It's a hour long and commercial free.

Go to https://www.progressivevp.com/radio_show.php

Look at the very bottom for the "Apr 18th" link.

If you listen to this show and have any suggestions or insight you'd like me to pass on to Dr. McCown please feel free to contribute. If you were ever going to contribute this is the time to do it.

Send email to: gamblingwithanedge@gmail.com

Sincerely,

Frank Kneeland

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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 19 APR 2011

 

Very insightful point. I believe this is similar to "The No True Scotsman" fallacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote: But what I'll never understand is why someone needs to dispute what the experts in a field suggest and then argue about it.

Why would anyone ask an expert for advise if they have no plans to heed such advise?

Because what they are looking for is the expert's concurrence with their thought process, not for something that would run counter to their preconceived notion. If the expert agrees with them, that shows just how smart they are. If the expert disagrees with them, that OBVIOUSLY shows just how ill-informed the "expert" is.

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RE: [vpFREE] 2 X points at South Point for April

 

I sent a note to my contact person and will report as soon as I hear back.
They gave me that prior to the start of the month. They may have changed
their minds. Thanks for the heads up.

Scot

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staninnv
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:27 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] 2 X points at South Point for April

Scot,

You sure about 2x points at South Point on April 24th? As I was collecting
the last of our gas cards this morning I mentioned the fact that the 24th
was double points. The slot club knew nothing but since I usually don't
make mistakes they made a call and told me that their boss said there was NO
double points in April because of half price gas cards.

Can you verify please?

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[vpFREE] 2 X points at South Point for April

 

Scot,

You sure about 2x points at South Point on April 24th? As I was collecting the last of our gas cards this morning I mentioned the fact that the 24th was double points. The slot club knew nothing but since I usually don't make mistakes they made a call and told me that their boss said there was NO double points in April because of half price gas cards.

Can you verify please?

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[vpFREE] Re: Peppermill Reno question

 

Nope - they weren't. That's why I posted here.





Some of the Reno locals might be able to answer your question at this site.

_http://groups.http://grohttp://groupshttp:_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE_Reno/)

--- In _vpFREE@yahoogroups.vpF_ (mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com) ,
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> With regard to the Pepp's 2x-4x multipliers

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 19 APR 2011

 



. But what I'll never understand is why someone needs to dispute what the
experts in a field suggest and then argue about it.

Why would anyone ask an expert for advise if they have no plans to heed such
advise?

Because what they are looking for is the expert's concurrence with their thought
process, not for something that would run counter to their preconceived notion.
If the expert agrees with them, that shows just how smart they are. If the
expert disagrees with them, that OBVIOUSLY shows just how ill-informed the
"expert" is.

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[vpFREE] Re: Casino MonteLago - Better Luck This Time

 

The new company is Intrepid Gaming LLC but their website notes
only that they do casino mangement. Do they own any casinos?

One problem Lake Las Vegas venue is it's out-of-the-way on a distressingly inaequate arterial road. There was a recent newspaper article on fixing it up. Hope that helps.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
>
> I always liked this place, but it never seemed to be very crowded. I'm not sure what they did that was wrong, but I always sensed they were missing the boat somehow. Of course, when they finally did away with ANY good video poker, the writing was clearly on the wall.
>
> I hope they do better this time, with different owner/management and some fresh ideas. It's a nice place. It's a lovely place, and I hope they make it. It was one of my favorites.
>
> Good luck Casino MonteLago! I'm rooting for you!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3kqr4ec
>

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 21 APR 2011

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 21 APR 2011

"Gambling and Stress"

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=1197

<a href="http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=1197">
http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=1197</a>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 19 APR 2011

 

Your mother was quoting Robert Burns .

"Oh wad some power the giftie gie us To see oursel's as others see us!"

Regards

A.P.

--- On Thu, 4/21/11, Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:

From: Frank <frank@progressivevp.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 19 APR 2011
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 5:10 PM

 

First let me say thank you for interjecting a Con-Bob statement. I was beginning to worry the thread was becoming too overwhelmingly positive.

But I think you are confusing rude with inexperienced. Neither Bob nor myself have much radio experience and I even caught myself cutting off a couple of guests in our early interviews. Though I've been called a lot of things in my day, rude really isn't one of them. I was just too focused on getting everything in and the quickly evaporating time constraints. It's really easy to do.

When I noticed our failings I brought it up to Bob and he immediately agreed we needed to work on it together, and we've been trying to do better since.

If you hear us do ANYTHING on-air that you think could use improvement, please don't hold your counsel. We need your insight to improve...and at least speaking for myself, I love constructive criticism, as long as it is constructive and some good comes out of it.

My Mother always used to say, "If only god the gift would give us, to see ourselves as others see us."

It's not an easy thing to do! Keep the comments coming.

Oh and "Don't cut off your guests". Got it...check.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "pumsparky" <dianalnagy@...> wrote:
>
> I have to agree with caribou321. A few times I have listen to
> the radio show, Bob will cut a guest off and end interview. Yes, I know there are time restraints and commercials have to be run but rude is rude. Also, I had to chuckle when I read Bob was waiting for the Senior drawing. I find it hard to believe he stands around waiting for the $1000 drawing. (I am sure he got paid more than that for mentioning M in his article.)
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caribou321" <caribou321@> wrote:
> >
> > Wow! This article turned my stomach! I can't believe the elitist obnoxious comments from Bob! This is Bob's side of the story, and even reading that, I think it was Bob that crossed the line! Suggesting to someone that he pay $300 to Bob for scouting machines? Is this guy for real? That's nuts! He is lucky the guy didn't get up and punch him in the face for that obnoxious comment! (If he did, maybe someone would have paid him $300 for the punch ;-) )
>

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[vpFREE] Re: Casino MonteLago - Better Luck This Time

 

The free rent option might have come in on the last few months but wasn't there when the original talks started on a new lease agreement. I talked to one of the prospective buyers at that time and there was no mention of the lease being held back. The buyer backed out last minute when it was announced that the Ritz would be closing. The Ritz is now the Ravella Hotel which, I beleive, is a 4 star hotel.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "irdd3000" <irdd@...> wrote:
>
> i remember reading the development was giving them virtually free rent toward the end to stay open...
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Sai Sai" <gofastnismo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > One of the reasons it closed was the lease agreement was changed to a ridiculous amount which made it no longer viable. I wont mention numbers but the owners of the property wanted 6 times the original amount per month. The closing of the Ritz sealed its fate after that.
> >
> >
> >
> > I seem to remember reading quite a while before it closed about a HUGE amount they were in the hole. I remember thinking that they were going to have to throw in the towel with those kind of numbers.
> >
> > So anyway, what has happened with the Ritz? Is it owned by someone else? Or is it just sitting there empty?
> >
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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 19 APR 2011

 

First let me say thank you for interjecting a Con-Bob statement. I was beginning to worry the thread was becoming too overwhelmingly positive.

But I think you are confusing rude with inexperienced. Neither Bob nor myself have much radio experience and I even caught myself cutting off a couple of guests in our early interviews. Though I've been called a lot of things in my day, rude really isn't one of them. I was just too focused on getting everything in and the quickly evaporating time constraints. It's really easy to do.

When I noticed our failings I brought it up to Bob and he immediately agreed we needed to work on it together, and we've been trying to do better since.

If you hear us do ANYTHING on-air that you think could use improvement, please don't hold your counsel. We need your insight to improve...and at least speaking for myself, I love constructive criticism, as long as it is constructive and some good comes out of it.

My Mother always used to say, "If only god the gift would give us, to see ourselves as others see us."

It's not an easy thing to do! Keep the comments coming.

Oh and "Don't cut off your guests". Got it...check.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "pumsparky" <dianalnagy@...> wrote:
>
> I have to agree with caribou321. A few times I have listen to
> the radio show, Bob will cut a guest off and end interview. Yes, I know there are time restraints and commercials have to be run but rude is rude. Also, I had to chuckle when I read Bob was waiting for the Senior drawing. I find it hard to believe he stands around waiting for the $1000 drawing. (I am sure he got paid more than that for mentioning M in his article.)
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caribou321" <caribou321@> wrote:
> >
> > Wow! This article turned my stomach! I can't believe the elitist obnoxious comments from Bob! This is Bob's side of the story, and even reading that, I think it was Bob that crossed the line! Suggesting to someone that he pay $300 to Bob for scouting machines? Is this guy for real? That's nuts! He is lucky the guy didn't get up and punch him in the face for that obnoxious comment! (If he did, maybe someone would have paid him $300 for the punch ;-) )
>

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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 19 APR 2011

 


Seriously Joel? Because YOU had a discussion with him on a play and he answered you impacts how we should view THIS story?

No offense, but I could care less whether he helped you or tripped you on the way out. It has nothing to do with the scenario in the article. In fact, it's actually showing he is a hypocrite. For one person he attempts to charge for advice, and to you he gives free advice.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...> wrote:
>
> Unbelievable. In my opinion Bob has done more to educate people on the strategy
> of VP than anyone else over the last 10-20 years. (followed by Jean) He was
> very gracious the first few times he was asked for advise which wasn't followed.
> I met Bob once in New Orleans. I was playing NSUD which I am not perfect at
> since there are not playable deuces back east and I play it rarely. I asked him
> for his advise on a hand and he was very gracious. He also suggested that if I
> don't know perfect play for NSUD that I play a game that I can play perfectly. A
> friend he was with offered to loan me her strategy chart. What more could you
> want?
> Joel
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: caribou321 <caribou321@...>
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 8:22:59 AM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVAdvisor Column - 19 APR 2011
>
>
> Wow! This article turned my stomach! I can't believe the elitist obnoxious
> comments from Bob! This is Bob's side of the story, and even reading that, I
> think it was Bob that crossed the line! Suggesting to someone that he pay $300
> to Bob for scouting machines? Is this guy for real? That's nuts! He is lucky
> the guy didn't get up and punch him in the face for that obnoxious comment! (If
> he did, maybe someone would have paid him $300 for the punch ;-) )
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpFREE Administrator" <vpfreeadmin@> wrote:
> >
> > Bob Dancer's LVAdvisor Column - 19 APR 2011
> >
> > "Pete Crosses The Line"
> >
> > http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2011/0419.cfm
> >
> > <a href="http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2011/0419.cfm">
> > http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2011/0419.cfm</a>
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