[vpFREE] Re: NCL Epic (NCL gambling....)

 
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[vpFREE] Re: Did I figure this correctly

 
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[vpFREE] Re: VP Tutor App for iPad

 

not sure

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Queen of Comps" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:
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> Is there a free one that would have accurate strategies?
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> Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
> http://queenofcomps.com/
> You can read my blog at
> http://jscott.lvablog.com/
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[vpFREE] Re: Caesars Palace increasing coin-in requirement for tier credits

 
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[vpFREE] Re: Caesars Palace increasing coin-in requirement for tier credits

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpbp2002" <bjbigplayer@...> wrote:
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> Points are irrelevant

Not so irrelevant if you were playing these machines during drawings...

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[vpFREE] Re: VP Tutor App for iPad

 

Thanks.

RE: Changing pay tables on winpoker app. I had been able to do that only once before. Apparently on my app when the pay table is selected and the keyboard is pulled up, the screen goes blank. But I can still type in the change-at least today.

So if someone wants to be able to input different pay tables for progressives, they may want winpoker for iPad.

But I guess I didn't address at all Jean's question about apps that provide strategies. Neither of the ones I mentioned do that. They will analyze hands, analyze games, and correct mistakes when you play hands though.

Oh and VP Tutor (Panamint) from the past. I still have that hard disc.

LA Bum

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tim Warr <timwarr@...> wrote:
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> You can modify pay schedules in winpoker.  Just tried it with JOB 6/9 with a payout of 130 for a 4 of a kind (saw that at south point on the triple play $1 machines). 
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> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:42 AM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: VP Tutor App for iPad
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> I know of 2 but they are not free.
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> My preference is Video Poker Wizard from the Wizard of Odds for $10 as an iTunes App. Since I am flying to Nevada each trip it's useful practice and worth it for me. It's an iTunes app. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/video-poker-wizard/id553349826?ls=1&mt=8
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> Zamzow has a similar product, probably for the same price
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> Video Poker Wizard has many more games/pay schedules pre-programmed in. I have not been successful trying to reprogram additional pay schedules into Zamzow's product.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Queen of Comps" <queenofcomps@> wrote:
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> > Is there a free one that would have accurate strategies?
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> > Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
> > http://queenofcomps.com/
> > You can read my blog at
> > http://jscott.lvablog.com/
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[vpFREE] Re: Skyline

 

The VPFREE mission statement says to the effect that good machines help casinos do well. Can't find that statement on VPFREE's mission. T'is a good read for both players and casino owners.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "wildcard303" <wildcard303@> wrote:
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> > Forgive me if I'm brain cramping. FPDW .25 is 5 coins correct not 10 coins. 10 coins would make it .50 FPDW...YES.? Two lines.? (confused)
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> Essentially it's a "50-cent" game, but it does use quarters, ten quarters. Ten quarters is max bet. A royal pays $2000, quad 2s pays $500.
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> Like another poster mentioned, it's in the "Deuces Room", to the right after entering.
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> There's a lot of good machines in this casino. Management knows they have good games, but that is what they offer. They are surely doing well. It's a friendly locals venue. We need more places with that philosophy.
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[vpFREE] Re: Skyline

 
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[vpFREE] Re: Skyline

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "wildcard303" <wildcard303@...> wrote:
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> Forgive me if I'm brain cramping. FPDW .25 is 5 coins correct not 10 coins. 10 coins would make it .50 FPDW...YES.? Two lines.? (confused)
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Essentially it's a "50-cent" game, but it does use quarters, ten quarters. Ten quarters is max bet. A royal pays $2000, quad 2s pays $500.

Like another poster mentioned, it's in the "Deuces Room", to the right after entering.

There's a lot of good machines in this casino. Management knows they have good games, but that is what they offer. They are surely doing well. It's a friendly locals venue. We need more places with that philosophy.

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[vpFREE] Did I figure this correctly

 

Played the 20x points at the Oxford Casino (Maine). It was 20x points from 10am to 12noon. I played at the .50 level DDB and in for $400. with maybe one full house. I changed machines and decided to switch to triple double bonus. Suddenly I was dealt 4 kings and then amazingly a few hands later dealt aces with a kicker for $2,000.00! The machine locked up. After the 2 hour 20x points, I had 175.00 in FP.. It was a great few hours and I bankrolled my winnings for a LV trip on August 21-28. I'll be at GVR, if you'd like to meet for a drink, please let me know as I will be along for the first part of my trip. Rod

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[vpFREE] Re: Caesars Palace increasing coin-in requirement for tier credits

 

When wife made 7* in 2011, she got assigned to Bally's in AC. We live in Boston. Our play was mostly in Nevada and New Orleans. Couldn't get separated from Bally's so my wife divorced them.

Haven't looked back for almost two years although there have been two one-night-stands in Tahoe :-)
There is life after Total Rewards.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Barry Glazer <b.glazer@...> wrote:
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> When they went to the "new" system (and I believe it was for 2013 for the first time), there was a brochure explaining the increased points needed to achieve Diamond etc., and explaining the new bonus points for achieving certain point totals in a single day -- and also introducing the "extra benefits" (such as they are) for various points along the way beyond Diamond but short of 7 Star.  Although I'm not absolutely certain (and I'm currently away from home, so can't check the brochure, which I think I did save), I thought they also described how you earn tier points.  Of course, a brochure is not a contract.
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> I'm in Vegas on business right now, but because the paytables are so poor at the $1 level on the strip, I don't intend to play any VP at all this trip, so a decrease in points at Caesars doesn't really hurt me.  When I've been here on vacation a few years ago, I've stayed at Caesars and played the $5 machines to get a full paytable, even though it was a little too high for my current bankroll, but with reduced tier points, if I were there again, that would be less attractive, leaving me with no real play options.
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> Regardless, this would certainly be (or, if true, as appears to be the case, "is") a change in the program -- and to me, surprisingly soon after the changes for 2013.  Seems like they should let one set of changes run the full year before making still more changes -- but they are free to do whatever they want.
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> I've never asked for a full written description of all of the details and rules applicable to Total Rewards, but if such a document is available, I'd be amazed if there's not a provision that everything is subject to change (or probably even subject to complete cancellation of the program).  But in terms of good will (not always a priority for the business), it seems like bad practice.  But businesses do this all the time, just as the airlines have made it harder to earn miles, require more miles for "free" flights, and worst of all, have imposed "fees" for flights with miles, some so high as to make the use of miles almost void of real value (I flew to Europe a couple of years ago and was offered a fee of over $800 to use miles to upgrade from a paid coach fare to business class; I flew coach!).
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> For those earning 7* status regularly, I'm sure excellent treatment via a host will persist as described.  For those of us at lower tiers, even including Diamond, tier points do matter.  And for those who don't play that frequently (and perhaps don't put in extensive hours / coin-in on each visit), a host is not always readily available at all properties (although I haven't actually tried that hard; perhaps I should do so).  For those of us in these situations, tier points do have some importance.
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> I am always surprised (but perhaps I shouldn't be) that as a Diamond member, I receive very little special treatment at properties at which I don't regularly play.  To be specific, I usually play at Horseshoe Hammond, but get down to Horseshoe Southern Indiana about twice a year, and to Vegas properties about once a year, along with one or two chances to visit other TR properties while traveling on occasion.  When I ask about comp'ed rooms at the latter locations, it's always "you haven't played here lately" or "talk to us on your way out and we'll see what we can do" (which is the treatment I would get at any casino I'd visit, even if I've never been to any of their properties and/or participated in their frequent player program).  Of course, in Hammond, where I do play regularly, they have no hotel to offer me (I did call VIP once and was told I could use tier points to pay for nearby hotels, but that's not a comp - although I do think it was at a
> better rate than if I just converted the points to cash).
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> Of course, I get to use the VIP checkin wherever I go, even if I'm paying for the room, and the Diamond lounge, etc., but that's very valuable compared to free rooms.  And I do get an annual packet of coupons for free rooms in Vegas for varying numbers of nights, usually 2 to 4 depending on which property I would choose.  And of course, my TR points can be "spent" at any property.  But it seems (to me) that earning Diamond status should qualify you for comps at all TR properties even if you're a first-timer to that location.
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> To me, it's one more step away from the "good old days" (I started VP when there was 2/3% cash back, lots of generous comps (I usually got free suites and limos from the airport along with free meals at the gourmet restaurants) and once there was an additional 2/3% in dollars spendable at the hotel shops, and I believe it was even better "before my time").  I'm sure it's just a matter of time before points become even more infinitesimally small, along with all the other side-benefits of playing video poker.
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> I've been thinking it's time to brush up my skills and go back to playing blackjack.
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>   > > > Reportedly Caesars Palace in Las Vegas is now only giving 1 tier credit for every $25 played on video poker.  This has been 1 tier credit per $10 coin-in on video poker so this would be a huge change in the negative direction for VP players. Can anyone confirm this?
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[vpFREE] Re: Skyline

 

Forgive me if I'm brain cramping. FPDW .25 is 5 coins correct not 10 coins. 10 coins would make it .50 FPDW...YES.? Two lines.? (confused)

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[vpFREE] NCL Epic (NCL gambling....)

 


I get bored on cruises easily (my husband loves them), and often play in the casino despite bad pay tables. On our Epic trip I played with two friends, primarily at the casino bar near the dining room, and we played and played and all of us had horrible luck on different machines. Never have I seen so few quads. It reached the point where not only did I see a lack of quads, but began to see unusual patterns of cards (something like 2,3,4,5 or 3,4,5,6 not necessarily in that order, but the last square was not a straight card, hold the 4 to a low straight and up came a queen, like one out of every two times, or more...always a queen). -- and decided the VP definitely wasn't random.

In years past I've played on other cruise ships, including Carnival and Princess, with poor pay schedules, but the machines were never as tight as on recent NCL cruises. And the Epic was the worst.

Now that isn't to say that no one ever hits Aces (I did) or a royal (I think Coachvee/Hedy did on an Epic cruise), but it sure seemed to me like these machines were gaffed in some way.

You can expect bad pay tables, like 6/5 JB, but the lack of quads was something else.

I didn't hear of a lot of people hitting the reels either on that trip. Usually there are some reports of big jackpots, especially the first day, even on NCL, but the Epic seemed worse.

The best games to play are craps or BJ. Really bad odds if you play bingo (too many people and low payouts), scratch cards, slot tournaments (unless free), blackjack tournaments, or other "special" non-normal type tournaments.

The good news -- if you are there with a NCL certificate, drinks in the casino are free. We would go to the bar and get a drink prior to dinner and take it with us. You'll be invited to A special casino party, generally the first night, with free appetizers and drinks, and they will give you a special card for the drinks.

If you are a degenerate gambler (like me) and can't stop yourself from gambling on a cruise, even after my warning, remember to contact the casino host after a day or two, and see if you qualify for any comps. They generally will give you a free specialty dinner with wine as a comp for heavier play, and maybe send a bottle of wine or other goodies to your cabin. Continue to play and get more free specialty dinners (they will make a reservation for you), but if you wait too long to ask for the comps, the cruise will be ending, so ask as you go.

Also the casino gives free play or comp money to your onboard account. They post the amounts they give. BUT if you are a heavier gambler, the host will give you extra credit. I think I got twice or more of the posted amount, to pay for certain charges to your room, such as Internet or spa. I'm not sure I'd shore excursions or gifts were included, there were some restrictions, but ask about this if you are playing a lot.

VP pay schedules are a bit better for higher denominations such as $5 and up, but still poor. Some people enjoyed playing poker on the ships, but they do take a larger rake than on land. My friend Siona played in a poker tournament and won some money, but since there are a lot of people playing in them, the odds aren't good.... If you play in the BJ tournament, play toward the end so you know what sort of score you need to win.

Also, the casino in the Epic was extremely busy and smoky. A lot of people onboard seem to have never been in a casino before, and since the casino is in the middle of the ship, right along the main corridors, rather than a separate room, people are constantly playing and watching other people play. There is a lot of noise, smoke, and congestion. This is one reason we did not like the Epic.

We pretty much hated the Epic, unfortunately. I think this is a link to part 1 of my super long review http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/message/119292, and here is part 2

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/message/119292

Other people have gone and enjoyed it a lot more than we did. The fact that I was in a handicapped room with no couch and had to negotiate narrow hallways clogged with cleaning carts in my scooter didn't help at all! A non handicapped person would have had a lot less trouble. But still the awkward setup of the bathrooms, the smokiness of the main area which combined a casino and entertainment/eating venues, the necessity of prebooking shows, and the lines to get in everything (or end up not getting decent seats), the lack of good areas to walk around the ship or sit quietly without loud Muzak, all might be troubling to non handicapped people too. Things may have improved since we went, back in Jan. 2012. First time cruisers definitely would enjoy more than we did (not having the experience of over 20 other, and better cruises to compare), and most we talked to on the ship were having a good time. But for us, we would never go back on the Epic again. (note we are repeating trips on other NCL ships)

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