RE: [vpFREE] Rampart versus South Point

 

There was nothing to "correct me on." I never said "the two casinos (to be) run identically." I simply related my experience with Rampart and likened it to (possibly) South Point.

Scot

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My interpretation of the phrase "Your turn" from the posting of......

"I did NOT say you did!!

Your turn

Bob"......

.....is that this means that both of you emphasis NOT, therefore "Your turn" is just a slick and sarcastic way of truly saying that it is nobody's turn. Especially not now after I have taken MY TURN! Image removed by sender.

So to answer your question of "My turn for what???", the answer is nothing. It is your turn for nothing.

In a message dated 9/14/2014 9:51:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

My turn for what??? Sheesh!

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Scot wrote: I did NOT say they were!

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I did NOT say you did!!

Your turn

Bob

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Re: [vpFREE] Rampart versus South Point

 

My interpretation of the phrase "Your turn" from the posting of......
 
"I did NOT say you did!!

Your turn

Bob"......
 
.....is that this means that both of you emphasis NOT, therefore "Your turn" is just a slick and sarcastic way of truly saying that it is nobody's turn. Especially not now after I have taken MY TURN!
 
So to answer your question of "My turn for what???", the answer is nothing. It is your turn for nothing.
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/14/2014 9:51:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:
 

My turn for what??? Sheesh!

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Scot wrote:  I did NOT say they were!

I did NOT say you did!!

Your turn

Bob


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RE: [vpFREE] Rampart versus South Point

 

My turn for what??? Sheesh!

 

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Scot wrote:  I did NOT say they were!

I did NOT say you did!!

Your turn

Bob


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Re: [vpFREE] Rampart versus South Point

 

Play nice.

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Scot wrote:  I did NOT say they were!

I did NOT say you did!!

Your turn

Bob





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RE: [vpFREE] Rampart versus South Point

 

Scot wrote:  I did NOT say they were!

I did NOT say you did!!

Your turn

Bob



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Re: [vpFREE] Wynn manager

 

Great insight. As part of BJ counting teams I never put much stock in worrying about the cameras. My feelings are confirmed by your observations; a crooked employee can do much more damage to a casino than most APs - the casinos know who to watch. 

Plus, the people manning the cameras are not gods, they are just as lazy as the rest of us. I'm sure they're in there goofing off, talking about the Raiders game and betting each other wether it's going to rain tomorrow, etc. 

I don't fear the cameras. 

On Sep 14, 2014, at 8:20 PM, "Robert Sommer nl7ht@hotmail.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

When I worked for Harrahs some years back as a Swing Shift Supervisor for Electronics Maintenance, the joke among employees was that only half of the cameras watched the customers.  The other half watched the employees.  It was actually no joke, but true.  When a employee was caught stealing or cheating, there was usually always a second person involved, usually a customer.  The casino would ALWAYS prosecute the employee first and strike a deal with the other party to testify against him.  Having the job I did, I had access to the Observation Room with all their surveillance equipment.  Casino customers have no idea of the things that go on in a casino that are caught on camera.  Some are very funny and some are just gross.  The Observation Room in any casino is a world unto itself and only a very few top employees know who the people in that room are and the observers on the floor.  With the 10 people I had working the swing shift, I was the only one authorized to enter that room.  I would also say that 95% of all employees did not even know where the room was.  Casinos do not like to talk much about the surveillance that goes on in a casino because a lot of people think of it as Big Brother watching your every move.  They can't see everywhere at once all the time, but trust me, they are watching.



 
It seems like it was very easy to do this sort of skim (though he was caught). I would think he would need an accomplice since usually two people hand out the w2s -- though it sounds like he reissued one with a different address? Casinos like Caesars could be vulnerable to this since they often handwrite a pay slip on a small pad, then mail out the w2 later. Though it isn't really clear if he was just pocketing the 30% that should have gone to the government or changing a foreign person into a US citizen on paperwork with a false social security number.

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RE: [vpFREE] Wynn manager

 

When I worked for Harrahs some years back as a Swing Shift Supervisor for Electronics Maintenance, the joke among employees was that only half of the cameras watched the customers.  The other half watched the employees.  It was actually no joke, but true.  When a employee was caught stealing or cheating, there was usually always a second person involved, usually a customer.  The casino would ALWAYS prosecute the employee first and strike a deal with the other party to testify against him.  Having the job I did, I had access to the Observation Room with all their surveillance equipment.  Casino customers have no idea of the things that go on in a casino that are caught on camera.  Some are very funny and some are just gross.  The Observation Room in any casino is a world unto itself and only a very few top employees know who the people in that room are and the observers on the floor.  With the 10 people I had working the swing shift, I was the only one authorized to enter that room.  I would also say that 95% of all employees did not even know where the room was.  Casinos do not like to talk much about the surveillance that goes on in a casino because a lot of people think of it as Big Brother watching your every move.  They can't see everywhere at once all the time, but trust me, they are watching.



 
It seems like it was very easy to do this sort of skim (though he was caught). I would think he would need an accomplice since usually two people hand out the w2s -- though it sounds like he reissued one with a different address? Casinos like Caesars could be vulnerable to this since they often handwrite a pay slip on a small pad, then mail out the w2 later. Though it isn't really clear if he was just pocketing the 30% that should have gone to the government or changing a foreign person into a US citizen on paperwork with a false social security number.

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[vpFREE] Wynn manager

 

It seems like it was very easy to do this sort of skim (though he was caught). I would think he would need an accomplice since usually two people hand out the w2s -- though it sounds like he reissued one with a different address? Casinos like Caesars could be vulnerable to this since they often handwrite a pay slip on a small pad, then mail out the w2 later. Though it isn't really clear if he was just pocketing the 30% that should have gone to the government or changing a foreign person into a US citizen on paperwork with a false social security number.

But it does make me wonder just how much graft/cheating does go on by casino employees.

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RE: [vpFREE] Rampart versus South Point

 

 

 

Bo Dancer wrote: I would not expect the two casinos to be run identically.

I did NOT say they were!

Scot



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RE: [vpFREE] Rampart versus South Point

 

SK wrote:  Both have good games.  My mailers from Rampart are decent for a local.  Gaughan operates Rampart. Same as South Point.  Could be worth a shot.

 Michael Gaughan Sr runs South Point. The son runs Rampart. The son worked for the father for a short time but for whatever reason they couldn't get along. (Whether it was professional casino disagreement or just "family friction" I don't know).

I would not expect the two casinos to be run identically.

Bob

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[vpFREE] Re: LVRJ: Former Wynn manager indicted in slot scheme

 

This was such a stupid scheme. Apparently he was relying on the casino
patrons not to file tax returns claiming refunds. The first time one
did, he was going to be caught. He should have just solicited bribes
from customers to file false tax reports and not withhold funds. That
would have been in the Las Vegas tradition. Everyone would have understood.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Proper hold JOB 3 card royal vs. 4 card flush?????

 

The main reason I have avoided Rampart all these years was because I had read too many negative stories on this group about poor comp policies. If they run it like South Point they won't want to hand out any comps if you are winning.
 
A.P.

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Both have good games.  My mailers from Rampart are decent for a local.  Gaughan operates Rampart. Same as South Point.  Could be worth a shot.
 
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Well I'll put it to you this way. If they had games and comps and such that were better than what I was getting at all the places that I go to now, I'd suffer the hand pays, but I've never read about anything at either of these two places that would ever encourage me to try them out.
 
A.P.
 
From: "'Scot Krause' krauseinvegas@cox.net [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 7:56 PM
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No one says you have to tip.  Play the machine next to you while you wait and enjoy your royal! 
 
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I realize that, but I have no patience waiting for hand pays that are there only so staff can weasel tips, and waste my time.
 
A.P.
 
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They still would not generate a tax form.
 
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Well that's two casinos that I have never been to, and with that information, I doubt that I ever will, Thanks. 
 
A.P.
 
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From: Albert Pearson ehpee@rogers.com

>> When I pick up free play for somebody, I always play single line video poker for quarters and it will be 9/6 jacks or 8/5 bonus to reduce the volatility. I'm not aware of any casinos that do hand pays on this type of machine anymore unless it's an old coin dropper, and as long as it's not a progressive equal to or over $1200 no tax slips. <<

I have seen hand pays on single-line 25c royals ($1000) at both Rampart and Tuscany Casinos. Employees' desire for more tips overrides customer service there.
 
 
 


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