Thanks for the honor,Tom
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From: Tom Robertson <007@embarqmail.com>
To: vpFREE <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2011 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Always Play 5 Coins
Congratulations, Marc! You get at least honorable mention for the most misconceptions expressed in one post on vpFree this year!
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> I think your friend has a valid point.I used to play 5 coins all the time,but no more.I hit AC about 12 times a year for 2 or 3 days.I play about 2 4 hour sessions per day.I like to play the 25 cent 9/6 Jacks Progressive at Caesars most of the time.When I always played max coin,unless I hit a Royal or got more than my fair share of Quads for the session,it's almost always a losing session.I've had Royal dry spell for as much as a year and lost every session.
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> I now use a 1-5 coin strategy.If I have a winning hand(no matter what it is),I move up to max coins.What does this do for me? It helps me catch hot streaks and avoid those long losing streaks that we all know about.Sure,I give up the first win at 5 coins and risk hitting the Royal at 1 coin,but i'm OK with that because those 4 coin savings add up.And most of the time the first win is a High pair which is'nt a true win but a wash and statistically counts as zero.So in that case,you don't give up anything at 1 coin.
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> I've used this strategy for over 3 years now and overall I'm up quite a bit.I've had winning sessions over 50% of the time not counting Royals.I've hit 6 royals in that time(2 at 1 coin in).
> Call it luck,but in the real world of gambling,it's worked well for me.I feel that cutting losses when things are'nt going well is just as important as maximizing your wins when things are going well.
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> All you EV purists out there are probably going to balk at turning a 99.54% EV game into a 98.37% EV game is stupid.I't's not quite that bad because about 50% of the time you're playing 5 coins with this strategy,so when you average the 2 EV's together you're probably at about 99%( I have'nt done the precise math).For AC standards,99% is considered playable.And in 9/6 we're looking at a negative EV anyway.
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> For me giving up a little EV is worth being able to have a direct money managment component in your gambling arsinal.Now,if your main reason for playing VP is hitting a Royal or you would would go mentally or emotionally ballistic if you hit one at 1 coin,I would'nt recomend this strategy.
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> If there were positive EV games available in AC like FP All American or FPDW available,I probably would stick to 5 coin in since you already have a mathematical advantage.
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> Marc
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> From: ITCH4@aol.com <itch4@aol.com>
> To: vpFREE <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Always Play 5 Coins
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> A friend I travel with will play one credit about 1/2 the time she plays VP. When she hits the royal (and she has!) she'll say even though it isn't the max coin jackpot, she must be still "ahead" over time seeing how many times she doesn't lose the other 4 credits when there is a no-payout spin. Go figure.
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> From: Lucky9484 <Lucky9484@aol.com>
> To: vpFREE <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 11:38 am
> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Always Play 5 Coins
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> That hurts. I did that once and felt like the world's biggest fool, hated
> o even collect I felt like such a jerk. Yes, !,250 is 1,250 but we all know
> "play max coins, play max coins" and this is exactly why. It was also at
> incon on a $5 single line but it was about 5 years ago.
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> n a message dated 11/2/2011 8:23:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>illC4@aol.com writes:
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> was at Rincon Saturday sitting next to an older gentleman who was playing
> 5 coins a time in a $5 single line Jacks or Better game. After playing for
> t least a half hour he was down to $5 in the machine. Instead of cashing
> ut he played the $5. He drew a royal. The machine didn't freeze up and as
> he man sat there stunned another player had to remind him to hold the five
> ards before pressing the draw button. His only statement, "Hey, I won
> 1,250."
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