[vpFREE] Re: The Wizard of Odds: Las Vegas Casino Blacklist

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Luke Fuller" <kungalooosh@...> wrote:
>
> What's to lose?
>
> Well, for one thing, publicizing that he "forgot" to cash
> a $2,900 ticket before it expired just might reduce is
> credibility with some people. Or, it might make him
> look like a down-right fool and lose a little respect
> from others.
>
> If I were the Wizard of Odds, I would take my story
> off my website and pretend that it never happened.
>
> Memo to Jean Scott:
> If you ever do something this stupid, PLEASE do not
> tell us!
>
>
> On 2/4/08, worldbefree22001 <krajewski.sa@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hope the ticketholder wins with gaming. Only
> > other recourse I can conceive of is suing in
> > local court to get local news coverage. I'd be
> > sending a link to this conversation to the
> > LVRJ anyway (what's to lose?) and the
> > conversation might help someone else while
> > embarassing the Strat. It would also make
> > good column fodder for other gambling
> > related writers.
> >
>
>
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>

The intelligence of posters here blows me away sometimes. The Wizard
does a lot of sports bets. Just because a $2900 ticket to you is a
huge sum of money doesn't mean that others view it the same. When
you bet sports at many different casinos and only one of them has a
ridiculous 60 day rule then it's pretty easy to see how it can be
overlooked. I'm guessing that this was the first time WOO was back at
the Stratosphere since he placed the bet. I'm guessing he didn't
necessarily examine the ticket, if you place hundreds of bets
throughout football season and every other joint allow 120 days why
would you assume this place is different?

So Luke says WOO may have reduced his credibility over this? LOL what
a joke. Professionals who know WOO know that he is an elite player
and his credibility is never in doubt. If a nickel and dime guy like
Luke feels otherwise, well that's his loss.

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[vpFREE] Judge dismisses jackpot lawsuit against Sandia casino

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[vpFREE] Philadelphia Inquirer - Slot payout wasn't what she expected

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[vpFREE] Re: "Figuring out the Formula" from Bob Dancer's column in CP mag

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bdancer@...> wrote:
>
> DB opined: With all due respect to Bob I say in order to keep under
the
> casino radar
> his story was true but the time it happened, where, and other
details
> were
> switched around in order to keep his privacy while playing.
>
>
> Reasonable guess, but wrong. This happened very much as written ---
> except for a few changes about Cody to ensure his privacy.
>
> If the Aquarius had old Arizona Charlie's records, surely they would
> have known my "Bob Dancer" alias, as I taught a few semesters at
both of
> the Charlie's and they knew my real name. As someone else has
remarked
> here, it was lucky that their records weren't up to date or I never
> would have been determined eligible for a first-timer award.
>
> My alias is hardly a big secret, as my picture is published in
several
> places (including my website, my autobiography, Video Poker for
Winner's
> packaging, and in casinos where I teach). Although I generally don't
> "announce" who I am at a "new" casino, it doesn't take long for
them to
> figure it out. Usually one or more of their employees knows. Keeping
> this a secret isn't a major goal of mine.
>
> Bob Dancer
> ----------------------------------------------------------

gilbert wrote:
In addition, many people must have seen the shows at Travel Channel
where Bob Dancer was featured in front of video poker machines. And
since these shows have been reran many many times already, I'm sure
many people know who Bob Dancer is nowadays.

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[vpFREE] Re: Wheel........Of.........Fraud!

> he has a 1 in 22 chance of hitting the "1000" slot on every spin,
> when in reality, his chances are about one in six billion (eight
> billion at Harrah's-owned casinos

As I sat and waited last Friday for my 4 hour-delayed plane to leave, I
watched several people playing the slots nearby. I was bound and
determined not to "blow" my $17 winnings from my 6 days of gambling
so...I...just...watched. I no longer play WoF but like to watch
others. One lady sat at the end of a row and spun twice and the wheel
slowed as it neared the 1000 and settled on 25 that was just past it.
It did this twice. She quit, another person came and played and spun
once and got 30 on another machine. A third person came and was able
to spin on his third bet, he hit 1000! In the airport! Reminds me of
the time several years ago (maybe 2002 or 2004) where I read that
someone hit a 4 million Megabucks jackpot in the LV airport.
Unbelievable! I got home with my $17 and a newly developed Upper
Respiratory Infection.
Bill (40wnks)


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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Guaranteed Play all gone?

There are some at Red Rock as well at least as of last Sunday.

gimmeaquad <gimmeaquad@yahoo.com> wrote: --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...> wrote:
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> Are they all gone already? Haven't seen them at any Stations that I
frequent
> lately.
>
> Scot
>
A few are still at Palace Station. New face plates kind of hide
their "mistake".

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[vpFREE] YEY!!! I FINALLY GOT IT!!

My first $1 Royal at Red Rock tonight, holding KJ of Spades!! Whoohoo!!
Nice thing was that whilst waiting for the hand pay, I got 4 Aces on the
machine next door. I was only playing BP...not that I'm complaining. :-)

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Re: [vpFREE] Wheel........Of.........Fraud!

Anyone who thinks they have a 1 in 22 chance of hitting
the 1,000 on a WoF bonus wheel is an idiot.

It may not be a 'nice' thing to say. But, it's true.

American Heritage Dictionary: id·i·ot (Ä­d'Ä“-É™t)
n.
A foolish or stupid person.

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[vpFREE] Scot Krause's LVA Bonus Points - 7 FEB 2008 Update

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[vpFREE] Re: Hand Per Hour-was Four Queens

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> Harry? Harry, is that you? :-)
>
OMG!!! Best laugh I've had all week. Thank goodness for all you
great folks!!

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[vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 6 FEB 2008

the palms doesn't seem to be fighting much of a war for my
business...after at least 6 mo of mailers i got zippo for feb...

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Hand Per Hour-was Four Queens

Harry? Harry, is that you? :-)



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I am not sure of which of the two modern mathematical types
of prng methods IGT or other manufacturer's use, the LCM, Linear
Congruential Method, or the ACM, Additive Congruential Method.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Hand Per Hour-was Four Queens


From: "rossx_98" <rossx_98@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Hand Per Hour-was Four Queens

> -I have Bob Dancer's software and have been using that but wasn't
> sure if the software and the casino machines were using the same
> speed.

Easy to determine. Use the second hand count method on your next casino
visit. When you get home, open Winpoker, click on options, click on set
animation speed. There are five different deal speeds that you can play with
to determine which one approximates your live casino play.

One gambler told me to change my speed from time to time on
> the casino machines because it will change the rgn - what is your
> opinion?

Basically bunk. What will change is your feeling that something has changed.
The numbers that are generated will be different, but they will also be
different had you not changed speeds, as they cycle thousands of times in
some unknown small portion of a second in time. Will a change in playing
speed help? Might, might not. Face it, when rank, order and suit are
considered, of the more than two and a half million initial five card hands
that can be dealt, an unhealthy majority are not quality hands. It's the
nature of the game. Take care as to what gamblers tell you. While playing
FPDW, I had a "gambler" tell me that if I have only one deuce dealt in a
hand, I should automatically throw it away, as this will force all four of
them to congregate in one hand in the very near future. Another gambler
while seeing my wife fill a one card draw on a spade royal commented, "Well,
you sure were lucky this time, because you know that spades are the hardest
suit to get em' in". READER CAUTION-If you are still awake, hit your delete
key now. As for your rgn, it is technically the PRNG, pseudo random number
generator, but everyone here will usually eliminate the p. What a time
saver. Anyway, I am not sure of which of the two modern mathematical types
of prng methods IGT or other manufacturer's use, the LCM, Linear
Congruential Method, or the ACM, Additive Congruential Method. Of course, if
you have some hours of your life that you might not mind ever getting back,
you can Google them both almost endlessly. Even if you know the method, that
is only the first baby step. Today, the acquisisition of any useful
information to help you in your play is as close to impossible as you can
get. Upon convincing yourself that you had discovered something, the tech
equipment that you would need in the casino might be quite cumbersome and
most probably illegal. If you have some free time, you may want to browse
the vpFREE glossary and the FAQ sections. It might help, and I promise it
wont hurt.
Nudge

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[vpFREE] Re: IRS Audit Experience

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Yep, and if you can afford it get a tax lawyer

-- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, supermackdaddy99@... wrote:
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> I can tell you from personal experience that they have all of this
info.
> Their database number didn't match the number on my return. I
apparently
> misplaced (or never received back form the casino) 2 large W2Gs
out of over 500 for
> the year. It triggered an audit but they went after the whole
filing not just
> the gambling items. they wanted over $20,000 + interest and
penalties. I won
> (well not really as no one ever "wins", I just didn't lose or have
to pay an
> additional taxes or fees except the hourly audit rate of my CPA.
>
> And from what I know and have heard you do NOT want to represent
yourself...
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/6/2008 10:12:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> igtddb@... writes:
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> When you were audited, did the Service seem to have their own
> independent knowledge of W2Gs issued to you?
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