[vpFREE] Re: Double double bonus

 

It's not clear what kind of ROR you're interested in, Sylvia.    Since 10/7 DDB is a positive game, you might be wondering how much money you need to play the game forever.   ("long-term ROR")    Or, you might be wanting to know the ROR for something like 5 hours of play.  ("short-term ROR")


Looking at longterm ROR first...for $5 100.07% DDB with 0.1% CB, with a bankroll of $718,900 you'd have a 10% ROR.   The long-term bankroll for a 1% ROR is twice the long-term bankroll for 10% ROR.   So a bankroll of $1.44 Million still has a 1% chance of not being enough to play $5 DDB indefinitely.

If you decide that the comps and bounceback add another 0.1% to the value of play (i.e., 0.2% total including cashback), then the bankroll required for a 10% ROR is reduced to $446,550.   And twice that amount for a 1% ROR.

What if you want to just play for several hours?   Say, 3,000 hands.    How much money do you need?  For a short-term ROR of 10%, you'd need to start with $10,500.   To have just a 1% ROR, you'd need $14,500.   (Those short-term calculations are not very sensitive to the amount of cashback.   The difference between 0.1% and 0.2% CB for 3000 hands is $75, or 3 bets.    So small changes in CB have little effect on your short-term ROR for several hours of play.)

(All calcs were done using Dunbar's Risk Analyzer for Video Poker 2.0.)

--Dunbar



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I never learned this game because I heard it was complicated and very few casinos offer full pay. I think I found a 100.07% one with some cash back and comps- not sure about the rate. Problem is that it is only available in $5. Now I know the volatility is going to be very high. I know there is a site somewhere that can calculate ROR. Could someone remind me what the site is? I am going to check it out later today and make sure I wrote down the correct pay table and I will try and find out the cash back rate. I know my friend also gets some freeplay in the mail. She has $100 for today but again, I have no idea what this is based on.


Sylvia

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[vpFREE] Re: Double double bonus

 

Risk of ruin depends, of course, on your bankroll. Optimum Video Poker
calculates RoR using the famous Sorokin formula, much more accurate than
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[vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 9 JUN 2017

 

The LVRJ had an article yesterday about the changes to the Palms restaurants. The biggest news to me is that the buffet will not be a conventional buffet but a food hall. There's also a video of the new Lucky Penny Cafe opening July 1st.

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[vpFREE] Re: Double double bonus

 

If you have Video Poker for Winners or Dunbar's Risk Analyzer, they both will do bankroll calculations. Otherwise, I can't improve upon what NOTI already wrote in answer to you question. You need to be made of money to play $5 100.07% DDB with .1% free play for any length of time.

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I can't find risk of ruin or bankroll requirements for $5, 100.07 plus .1% slot freeplay for Double Double Bonus.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Double double bonus

 

skgosline wrote: "I can't find risk of ruin or bankroll requirements for $5, 100.07 plus .1% slot freeplay for Double Double Bonus."

You should have memorized in your head that approximate Kelly bankroll is variance/edge bets, or in this case 42/0.2% times $25 = $525,000 and that's assuming perfect play. A 0.2% error rate and now your bankroll requirement is infinite.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Double double bonus

 

I can't find risk of ruin or bankroll requirements for $5, 100.07 plus .1% slot freeplay for Double Double Bonus. 

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[vpFREE] Re: Legionnaires disease found at Rio

 

Which explains why the smart poker players are staying in trailers and RVs in the parking lot and declining the "comped suites".

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Double double bonus

 

I find double double to be one of the easier games to learn.

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Quick update- Cash back .1%, comps .1% . You get both. VPfree2 does not say anything about a different rate for slots vs VP. I almost forgot to check vpfree2 but it does not list this game.


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[vpFREE] Re: Double double bonus

 

Quick update- Cash back .1%, comps .1% . You get both. VPfree2 does not say anything about a different rate for slots vs VP. I almost forgot to check vpfree2 but it does not list this game.

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[vpFREE] Double double bonus

 

I never learned this game because I heard it was complicated and very few casinos offer full pay. I think I found a 100.07% one with some cash back and comps- not sure about the rate. Problem is that it is only available in $5. Now I know the volatility is going to be very high. I know there is a site somewhere that can calculate ROR. Could someone remind me what the site is? I am going to check it out later today and make sure I wrote down the correct pay table and I will try and find out the cash back rate. I know my friend also gets some freeplay in the mail. She has $100 for today but again, I have no idea what this is based on.


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[vpFREE] Re: Legionnaires disease found at Rio

 

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