[vpFREE] Re: Losing streaks (was Re: Players Getting Booted the Suncoast Way)

 

It is easier to believe you are being cheated instead of making mistakes, having an insufficient bankroll or that RNGs do not produce predictable results.

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[vpFREE] Losing streaks (was Re: Players Getting Booted the Suncoast Way)

 

Mickey said:

"Early on in my machine playing career, every time I took an extended losing streak I thought I was being cheated. But the end results were always the same. I always came out ahead. In twenty years I've still never had a losing year. I started seeing the losing streaks as just a cost of doing business. When your sample space gets big enough you will see all kinds of whacky stuff. Five cycles between royals. Ten cycles between quads. On the flip side I've hit 3 royals in four hours, six quads in 200 hands.

My first reaction to a losing streak is to become agitated. And I will stay agitated to a point. If the losing steak keeps up I eventually start laughing at myself. But then I'm always playing within the means of my bankroll. Surviving the losing streaks is routine to me. As long as I trust the jurisdiction I'm gambling in I never suspect that I'm being cheated. It's just the cost of doing business."

This is an excellent assessment of video poker volatility. Whenever anyone in Nevada starts wondering about gaffed machine(s), this post should be used as the answer. It's very easy to suspect cheating until you've played several million hands and experienced the normal swings for yourself.

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[vpFREE] Re: Players Getting Booted the Suncoast Way

 

On a related note, try a search for "Konami Code".

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[vpFREE] Re: Players Getting Booted the Suncoast Way

 

I've read in the past that when the EPROM's are manufactured they are delivered to Nevada Gaming for testing before they can be placed in a machine. And there has to be a Gaming agent present when the chips are placed in the machines. They are placed with a seal so a Gaming Agent can tell if the chip has been tampered with. Then they make random checks of machines to insure their integrity.

In 2005/6 I spent about a year in Ely, Nevada. There were a dozen Spin Pokers in the Hotel Nevada that had full pay joker poker (100.64%). There were multiple permanent promotions running. In short, they were paying me $1000 a week to play a game in which I already had an edge.

While I was there Gaming came in and tested a bunch of machines. I had a pretty good relationship with the assistant casino manager and we talked quite a bit. He told me that Gaming told him that the chips in the Spins Pokers had to be replaced. I asked him why. He said the only reason Gaming gave him was the chips were to old.

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[vpFREE] Re: Players Getting Booted the Suncoast Way

 

The argument against casinos gaffing their machines has usually been centered around a few areas: 1. They easily make enough money without resorting to anything illegal,
2. The consequences of getting caught would be so great (loss of gaming license, fines, negative publicity, loss of managerial jobs, etc.) as to make any such attempt foolish,
3. The state gaming agencies would likely discover any such gaffing.


I have personally never thought that anywhere I've played has cheated me. If I did think so, I wouldn't return to play.


Ohio and West Virginia (which is my neck of the woods) have many little "Skill Game Parlors" which seem to be mom & pop operations that appear in rented store fronts and probably have a couple dozen or so slots and video poker machines. These operations appear and last for a while, then they disappear. I've never been in one of those places because as far as I know, there is no regulatory agency monitoring their games or procedures. These places might be full of "Mickey Crimm" opportunities, but I don't trust them, so I've not visited.


In any event, as far a legitimate casinos gaffing machines: I don't think the CEO of any giant gaming corporation would ever send out a memo ordering her GMs to "Make sure our machines have the 'XYZ PROM' activated so we get an extra 2% hold on our $1 and up video poker machines." Repeat--I don't think that would happen.


What I do think is much more likely is that the GM of a property in BFE, Oklahoma dreams of becoming the GM of a more glamorous property in Las Vegas. In an effort to impress his corporate bosses with what a good job he is doing, this rogue GM makes a secret deal with his Slot Director to gaffe enough machines (not all) in hopes of showing a measurable increase in his property's net profits. The GM and Slot Director hope that the state gaming commission never selects the gaffed machines for review (or the Slot Director has a mole in the gaming commission who will tell him which machines have been selected) and the GM promises to bring the Slot Director along as he ascends the corporate ladder.


Anyway, that's my general premise. It is possible that there are otherwise legitimate casinos with gaffed machines, but they are not gaffed by corporate policy. They are gaffed by a small group (maybe three people max) who are willing to take that risk in exchange for the chance of a big reward.


Never underestimate the limits of desperation.


I find it amusing when people tell me they are certain the casino we are in has secretly "tightened" all of the machines to illegally reduce payouts, but they will be back the following weekend.


Max





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The silver lining behind the American Coin scandal is the control board, which took heavy criticism because of the scandal, realized their own shortcomings. They instituted stiffer policies, procedures and regulations on the machines. They even went so far as to order the retesting of every machine in the state, about 150,000 at the time, to insure their integrity.


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