[vpFREE] Re: Seven Stars Signature Experience $500 Gift Cards

 

Does this mean you have to use the whole $500 on one trip versus being able to use the gift card at several different restaurants, gift shops etc. on many trips? And I would guess it can only be used at restaurants & spas.....not gift shops? That is not good.

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[vpFREE] Re: Seven Stars Signature Experience $500 Gift Cards

 

Also note the one time redemption on this experience. I had been using my experience credits for the $500 gift cards. It was the only worthwhile thing in the entire program in my opinion. Most of the other experiences were grossly over valued.


$500 Nevada Destination Folio Credit
Treat yourself on your next visit to one of our fabulous Nevada destinations with a $500 folio credit. Dine at any of our celebrity chef restaurants or relax at the spa.

Folio credit good for food, beverage and spa at any of our Nevada Total Rewards locations in Lake Tahoe, Reno, Laughlin and Las Vegas. Limit one redemption per Seven Stars member.

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[vpFREE] Seven Stars Signature Experience $500 Gift Cards

 

The Total Rewards $500 Gift Card is no longer an option for "spending" one
Signature Experience Credit. It has been replaced with a $500 Nevada
property folio credit. Not nearly as valuable as the gift card since you
have to be staying at a Caesars Nevada property to use it.

Darryl

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: I just got my first dealt royal!

 

If your 5 card initial hand includes one and only one ten and no high cards your chance of a redraw royal is 1/511313. If your 5 card initial hand contains no card higher than a nine your chance of a redraw royal is 1/383484.75.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: I just got my first dealt royal!

 

Just one comment regarding this statement. If one discards a ten
(correct play) would not that reduce the odds even more?
 
 
 
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Nordo123@aol.com [vpFREE] wrote:
 
 

 

What kelso and the others forgot is the chance of being dealt a 5 card
hand that you discard. Again using Bayes Therom (one of my favorites),
Probability(Redraw Royal) = Probability(Royal given you discard your
hand) x Probability(Being dealt a hand that you discard). That's the
catch. Your initial 5 cards must consist of 5 cards all of rank 10 or
lower which are all of different ranks, no flush, no straight, no 4 card
flush, no 4 card open ended straight and no 3 card straight flush. That
is why a redraw royal is so much more unlikely than a dealt royal.
People like Bob Dancer are much more likely than myself to get a redraw
Royal due to the number of hands played. I play mostly single line and
Bob and others play a lot of multi-line. Anyway congratulations to all
that have redrawn a royal, I don't believe I ever will.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: I just got my first dealt royal!

 

What kelso and the others forgot is the chance of being dealt a 5 card hand that you discard. Again using Bayes Therom (one of my favorites), Probability(Redraw Royal) = Probability(Royal given you discard your hand) x Probability(Being dealt a hand that you discard). That's the catch. Your initial 5 cards must consist of 5 cards all of rank 10 or lower which are all of different ranks, no flush, no straight, no 4 card flush, no 4 card open ended straight and no 3 card straight flush. That is why a redraw royal is so much more unlikely than a dealt royal. People like Bob Dancer are much more likely than myself to get a redraw Royal due to the number of hands played. I play mostly single line and Bob and others play a lot of multi-line. Anyway congratulations to all that have redrawn a royal, I don't believe I ever will.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: I just got my first dealt royal!

 

I had a Royal on the redraw at MSS a few years ago, total surprise. I have only had two dealt Royals since I started coming to Vegas in the 80's

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: I just got my first dealt royal!

 

I've had 2 royals on a redraw and maybe went 10 cycles before I recently hit my first one on a 4-card draw.

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[vpFREE] Re: I just got my first dealt royal!

 

All of my royals so far have been on two or three card holds (which a thread here once before identified, with the applicable math shown, as the most common way to get a royal).

However, I have a friend who's had 'em all -- dealt royal, and holding everything from zero to four cards. As you might expect, he's put in a fair amount of time at the machines over the years -- but he is still working full time and most definitely not a pro -- just a very compulsive player when he makes a trip to a casino.

I would not be at all surprised to find that there are many others here who have done this too.

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Once, I discarded all five cards and got a royal on the draw.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: I just got my first dealt royal!

 

True, assuming a ten hasn't been discarded, but the frequency is less.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: I just got my first dealt royal!

 

I may be reading this wrong and may not know the whole thread but I believe the chances of getting a royal on the redraw holding zero cards is greater than the dealt royal -- 1 out of 385,000 -- due to the fact that the remaining 47 cards contains more high cards than the original deal since you generally hold high cards on the initial draw.

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