[vpFREE] New poll for vpFREE

 


Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
vpFREE group:

What was your total lifetime VP profit or loss (include all cash or cash equivalents received) as of 31 DEC 2011?

o Lost more than $1,000,000
o Lost between $200,001 and $1,000,000
o Lost between $50,001 and $200,000
o Lost between $10,001 and $50,000
o Lost between $1,001 and $10,000
o Lost between $1 and $1,000
o Broke about even
o Won between $1 and $1,000
o Won between $1,001 and $10,000
o Won between $10,001 and $50,000
o Won between $50,001 and $200,000
o Won between $200,001 and $1,000,000
o Won more than $1,000,000

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[vpFREE] New poll for vpFREE

 


Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
vpFREE group:

What was your VP profit or loss (include all cash or cash equivalents received) in 2011?

o Lost more than $500,000
o Lost between $50,001 and $500,000
o Lost between $10,001 and $50,000
o Lost between $1,001 and $10,000
o Lost between $1 and $1,000
o Broke about even
o Won between $1 and $1,000
o Won between $1,001 and $10,000
o Won between $10,001 and $50,000
o Won between $50,001 and $500,000
o Won more than $500,000

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[vpFREE] Re: Again, important to keep track of points at Harrahs properties

 

Indeed Miss C., funny how out of all the LV properties, Station and Coast
had my won/loss (well, loss) statements up this morning, whereas Caesars
still isn't ready (and judging by past performance, we'll wait another
week, at least). So their inconsistencies are consistent, so to speak!!

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*"And Baba Booey to Y'all!!"*

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[vpFREE] Vegas Values Report - 1 JAN 2012

 

Vegas Values Report - 1 JAN 2012

http://www.americancasinoguide.com/vegas-values/january-1-2012-vegas-values-report.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/882grm5

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[vpFREE] Again, important to keep track of points at Harrahs properties

 


Again I urge anyone playing at Harrahs properties to keep a log of their accumulated points, each day, especially for multiplier days. We again had a problem with missing 5x multiplier points. After several weeks of exchanging email with customer service, they finally made an adjustment of over $200 in comp credits. I had kept daily track of credits and thus could see that not enough points had been added. I also was persistent in pursuing the missing credits.

I don't know why Harrahs properties seem to have so many computer problems, but New Orleans is a top offender. Make sure your points are accumulating properly if you play there. If you don't see them on. Your card reader after a session, check with VIP services or TR. Write down your time of play, machine number, and other info. Keep track of any multiplier days with points accumulated, and if they don't show up in a couple of weeks, check with TR, customer service via www.harrahs.com, and/or a host.

This is the second time within a few months we have had to check on missing multiplier points, and get back over $100 in missing comps each time. Unfortunately if they make a manual adjustment, it may count as a Trip. Hard to say if the normal multiplier counts as a trip when it hits your account too.

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[vpFREE] Re: double super times poker

 

I thank every one for their help. I was trying to multiply 4.01 times the frequency of occorance for each hand. Didnot work out right.

Bill C

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "pyiddy" <pyiddy@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you! Your calculations are dead accurate and I tried to over think the
> first part of it completely messing it up.
>
>
>
> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> fivespot
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 6:17 AM
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] double super times poker
>
>
>
>
>
> billchute2 <billchute2@... <mailto:billchute2%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
> > Is the 4.01 a misprint (it appears twice) or am I doing something wrong
> with my math?
>
> the latter. 1/15 of the time you get the deal multiplier for 4.01
> times the base return, 1/15 of the time you get the draw multiplier
> for 4.01 times the base return, sometimes you get both but we're
> already counting that, and (14/15)*(14/15) of the time you get neither
> multiplier so you get 1.0 times the base return.
>
> combined return is 2*(1/15)*4.01 + (14/15)*(14/15)*1.0 = 1.4058 times
> the base return. you're putting in 1.4 times as many coins (7 instead
> of 5), so divide that by 1.4 and you get 1.0041 times the base return
> - the DSTP game is 0.41% better.
>
> the "you get 20x on any dealt royal with a deal multiplier" gimmick
> adds another 0.09%, so the overall EV is 0.5% better, which agrees
> with the figures from IGT and shackleford.
>
> cheers,
>
> five
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[vpFREE] vpFREE Posting Guidelines - JAN 2012

 

vpFREE Posting Guidelines - JAN 2012

http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/POL_P.htm

1. Everyone should read and be familiar with the vpFREE
FAQ before posting messages on vpFREE Forums.

2. Every message's subject line should accurately identify
the content of the message, to facilitate faster navigation
by interested or uninterested members.

3. If you reply to a message and change the subject matter,
either start a new thread (preferable) with a new subject
line or rename the subject line to reflect its new focus.

4. When replying to messages, quote just enough of the
previous post to maintain continuity. Delete the rest of
the previous post.

5. When replying to messages, clearly differentiate the
previous message(s) from your comments, so that it will be
easy to identify who wrote what.

6. Never post lengthy copyrighted material verbatim without
permission. This includes posts from non-vpFREE internet
forums. Instead, post a link to the material and/or a
summary. Short, credited excerpts may be quoted.

7. Don't use any vpFREE member's real name, even their
first name, on any vpFREE forum unless they themselves use
their real name there.

8. As a spam prevention measure, no one can upload to the
Files Directory on the vpFREE home page unless they get
temporary upload access from the Administrator.

9. Casino personnel probably monitor vpFREE Groups so posts
containing sensitive information should take this into
consideration.

10. Members are expected to observe the rules of
Netiquette , and to practice politeness and show good taste
in their vpFREE posts.

11. Any post that disagrees with vpFREE Dogma and
reaches contradictory conclusions, should be supported with
significant, persuasive documentation. Generalizations and
limited anecdotal evidence aren't persuasive.

12. Most vpFREE members rely on the forum for accurate
information, and may misunderstand, misinterpret or be
confused by tongue-in-cheek posts which are presented as
fact. Always make it very clear in your posts if they are
tongue-in-cheek, by using "smilies", stating that you're
kidding or something similar.

13. Use FREEvpFREE for any political, religious, or smoking
vs. non-smoking discussions. Non-partisan status reports
about smoking and non-smoking availability in casinos are OK
on vpFREE.

14. If you have Yahoo administrative problems, send a
private email to the Administrator, after you have checked
the vpFREE Yahoo! Administrative Problems Directory.

15. Let the Administrator do the administrating. Send any
comments, questions, suggestions or disagreements about
vpFREE policies or procedures to the Administrator via
private email or post them on FREEvpFREE.

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[vpFREE] vpFREE Policies - JAN 2012

 

vpFREE Policies - JAN 2012

http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/POL.htm

The vpFREE Video Poker Group is a free internet forum for
the discussion and exchange of information about video poker
and video poker related topics. vpFREE is dedicated to
sharing, promoting and preserving good video poker
situations that can survive and prosper in an open market
environment.

MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS: Every vpFREE member is expected to
observe and practice the vpFREE Posting Guidelines and the
rules of Netiquette , and to vote in all applicable vpFREE
polls and elections.

SUNSHINE POLICY: vpFREE members are expected to report all
attractive games they notice in casinos they visit, unless
they believe it's better not to publicize the games, either
for their own benefit or for the video poker community as a
whole.

MODERATION: vpFREE is semi-moderated, which means that
established members aren't normally moderated, but
individual members can be moderated for cause. All new
members are moderated, to help prevent spam messages, until
they have made a legitimate post.

FREEvpFREE: Political or religious posts and any extended
discussions of off-topic threads should be done on
FREEvpFREE which is the unmoderated, free speech forum of
the vpFREE groups. Disruptive threads will be moved to
FREEvpFREE.

PROMOTIONAL POSTS: The preferred promotional method on
vpFREE is the use of short, unobtrusive signature files. In
addition, occasional announcements of new or continuing
offers of mainstream video poker related products are
acceptable. All other promotional posts require prior
approval.

TERMS of SERVICE: See vpFREE Terms of Service .

NON-PROFIT: vpFREE is, and will always remain, a non-profit
operation. Neither vpFREE nor the vpFREE Administrator has
any financial interest, direct or indirect, in any
commercial video poker related product or endeavor.

ADMINISTRATION: The vpFREE Administrator makes, interprets
and enforces the rules and policies for vpFREE, subject to
oversight from the vpFREE Administrative Committee.

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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 1 JAN 2012

 

LVA Question of the Day - 1 JAN 2012

Q: Happy New Year!

Read the answer here:

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/qod.cfm

<a href="http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/qod.cfm">
http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/qod.cfm</a>

NOTE: vpFREE access to the Question of the Day link has
been approved by LVA and expires after the current day
for non-LVA members.

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RE: [vpFREE] double super times poker

 

Thank you! Your calculations are dead accurate and I tried to over think the
first part of it completely messing it up.

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
fivespot
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 6:17 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] double super times poker

billchute2 <billchute2@yahoo.com <mailto:billchute2%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
> Is the 4.01 a misprint (it appears twice) or am I doing something wrong
with my math?

the latter. 1/15 of the time you get the deal multiplier for 4.01
times the base return, 1/15 of the time you get the draw multiplier
for 4.01 times the base return, sometimes you get both but we're
already counting that, and (14/15)*(14/15) of the time you get neither
multiplier so you get 1.0 times the base return.

combined return is 2*(1/15)*4.01 + (14/15)*(14/15)*1.0 = 1.4058 times
the base return. you're putting in 1.4 times as many coins (7 instead
of 5), so divide that by 1.4 and you get 1.0041 times the base return
- the DSTP game is 0.41% better.

the "you get 20x on any dealt royal with a deal multiplier" gimmick
adds another 0.09%, so the overall EV is 0.5% better, which agrees
with the figures from IGT and shackleford.

cheers,

five

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Re: [vpFREE] double super times poker

 

billchute2 <billchute2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is the 4.01 a misprint (it appears twice) or am I doing something wrong with my math?

the latter. 1/15 of the time you get the deal multiplier for 4.01
times the base return, 1/15 of the time you get the draw multiplier
for 4.01 times the base return, sometimes you get both but we're
already counting that, and (14/15)*(14/15) of the time you get neither
multiplier so you get 1.0 times the base return.

combined return is 2*(1/15)*4.01 + (14/15)*(14/15)*1.0 = 1.4058 times
the base return. you're putting in 1.4 times as many coins (7 instead
of 5), so divide that by 1.4 and you get 1.0041 times the base return
- the DSTP game is 0.41% better.

the "you get 20x on any dealt royal with a deal multiplier" gimmick
adds another 0.09%, so the overall EV is 0.5% better, which agrees
with the figures from IGT and shackleford.

cheers,

five

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