The 9/6 JoB listed in database do not exist.
Slot Club return is $1000 coin in = $1.67. It appears you get free play or comps. From the literature it makes it sound like you might have to achieve the highest slot club tier to be eligible for point conversion to free play, maximum $200 per day.
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15+ years ago I felt comfortable with my VP playing skills at 5 cents at the Fiesta Rancho. I thought it was time to move up denomination to 25 cents. I had $500 and I was ready to take it on with JW4700(101% after all + cash back in those days) at Arizona Charlies on Decatur. Bank Roll-I had no idea what that meant. I put $20 in the machine, 10 minutes-$1175 Royal-net $1190. Wow this is easy. Next day, same machine- same result- another $1190. 3rd Day $1200 with a VP poker tournament(got my first #1099 with that one.) Went back home. One month later, came back, same machine another $1175 with maybe $20 in. Then I found about bankroll requirements(whoops, I should have know better). Dumb luck on my part. My wife and I have done pretty well over the years with this profitable part time hobby(with a proper bankroll). If I had lost my first $500... probably would have given up on the the whole thing. Fate!!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
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> Risk of Ruin calculations assume you don't have an outside source of replenishing your bankroll.
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> When I first started playing video poker I was severely underfunded but....I had a cash cow in the advantage slots. I was making about $200 a day off the slots. Did I wait until I had a swing resistent bankroll before throwing down on video poker. No, I didn't.
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> I allocated so much money per week to the FPDW at Gold River. This was in 97 and I got 1% CB on Thursdays and .6666% on Fridays. Those were the only days I played. When I hit my first royal the money went into my bankroll and I didn't change my routine. I continued to play the advantage slots most days of the week and only played video poker on Thursday and Fridays, allocating just so much money to it. Between the advantage slots and the royals it didn't take me long to gain a swing resistent bankroll.
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> If I were a working stiff just getting into video poker and had little or no bankroll this is what I would do. I would allocate so much money per paycheck to video poker. I would only play with an advantage. When the first royal comes off I will add the money to what bankroll I have. But I won't change the routine. I'll continue to allocate so much money per paycheck to video poker. Every time I hit a royal it goes into my bankroll. The routine will remain the same until I have a swing resistent bankroll. Trust me, if you do it like this it won't take you long to get there.
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> To me the three keys to successful gambling are knowledge, skill and disciple. The knowledge to figure out an advantage, the skill to exploit it, and the disciple to maintain the pace. A breakdown in any one of these areas will lead to failure.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:
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> Theory doesn't pay the bills Mickey, nor does it guarantee anything other than discussing hopes and dreams with others while enjoying six-packs of Moose Drool. And where is there 1% cb on FPDW these days anyway?
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I've been out drinking only one night in the last three months. And it wasn't last night. I'm slowing down with old age, Robbie. The hangovers hurt like hell these days. The old liver don't don't kick it out like it used to.
As far as FPDW with 1% cashback goes, I don't work paltry 1.76% edges anymore. Nowadays, if I ain't got 10% edge or more it's hard for me put my money in action. I'm spoiled rotten like that these days.
Yeah, sure I'm an old drunk, Rob. But I don't run on hopes and dreams. Applied gambling theory pays my bills and a lot more. I'm pure gambling theorist. I'm the toughest assed machine pro on the planet earth.
I directed my question at you, Rob, but it was really meant for up an coming players who are members of vpFREE. To get them to think about it. The notion that one has to scrimp and save, and stay out of action, until one has a certain bankroll amount is a myth.
So I won't ask you again. I'll ask them. Whose the favorite, Player A or Player B.
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Theory builds cities and moon rockets. On the other hand, ignorant blather doesn't build anything but more ignorance.
Cogno
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Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: How to Jump Start a Bankroll the Mickey Crimm Way
Theory doesn't pay the bills Mickey, nor does it guarantee anything other than discussing hopes and dreams with others while enjoying six-packs of Moose Drool. And where is there 1% cb on FPDW these days anyway?
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Subject: [vpFREE] Re: How to Jump Start a Bankroll the Mickey Crimm Way
Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 4:51 pm
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Two different individuals decide to build a $5000 video poker bankroll. They both get paid once a week. They both decide to set aside $200 a week out of their paychecks.
Player A dutifully goes to the bank every Friday and deposits $200 into his video poker savings account with the intention of waiting until he has $5000 before playing advantage video poker.
Player B takes his $200 to the casino every Saturday and plays FPDW with %1 cashback. His plan is to play exactly 5000 games....
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You can play in Atlantic City, where the Caesar's properties still have some full-pay machine's. But the offer's from them are drying up unless you play a bunch of slots too.
Ned C.
The Wild Joker
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From: DwayneA <dwayne.andras@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:45 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] becoming more of a VP player Advice....
Now looking to try and maximize my comps and room offers from Caesars properties
in New Orleans and Vegas. My offers have seemed to dry up of late. ;(
I have started playing some VP although the payback on there machines are less than optimal. That may be my first mistake. I am conflicted...I have been ready, learning and practicing "perfect play" for the machines that I play.
Any Idea how i can make it worth while at a Caesar's Property on the strip??
Any suggestions are tips welcomed.
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Theory doesn't pay the bills Mickey, nor does it guarantee anything other than discussing hopes and dreams with others while enjoying six-packs of Moose Drool. And where is there 1% cb on FPDW these days anyway?
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From: "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: How to Jump Start a Bankroll the Mickey Crimm Way
Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 4:51 pm
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Two different individuals decide to build a $5000 video poker bankroll. They both get paid once a week. They both decide to set aside $200 a week out of their paychecks.
Player A dutifully goes to the bank every Friday and deposits $200 into his video poker savings account with the intention of waiting until he has $5000 before playing advantage video poker.
Player B takes his $200 to the casino every Saturday and plays FPDW with %1 cashback. His plan is to play exactly 5000 games....
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:
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> Mickey: your method is interesting, intriguing....even somewhat exciting--especially for "working stiffs". But I doubt many players could duplicate such a feat. Instead, I've always highly advocated people save up the proper bankroll for the games they intend to play prior to embarking upon their vp journey. That's what strong, patient players do these days.
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Two different individuals decide to build a $5000 video poker bankroll. They both get paid once a week. They both decide to set aside $200 a week out of their paychecks.
Player A dutifully goes to the bank every Friday and deposits $200 into his video poker savings account with the intention of waiting until he has $5000 before playing advantage video poker.
Player B takes his $200 to the casino every Saturday and plays FPDW with %1 cashback. His plan is to play exactly 5000 games or until he loses the $200. If he loses the $200 he takes his cashback and dutifully deposits it into his video poker savings account at the bank every Monday. On days where he gets to 5000 games and makes a cashout, whatever the amount is, whether it's $50 or $100, or $200 or whatever, he takes it and the cashback and dutifully deposits it into his video poker saving account every Monday. He only plays the $200 out of his paycheck every week and never uses money from the savings account.
Who is the favorite to get to $5000 first, Player A, or Player B?
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