Re: [vpFREE] Closing Again

 

I agree with Harry that the early/first re-openings weren't handled the best.
My son and girlfriend were in Vegas and left just a day or two BEFORE
the gov required face masks etc. They stayed at Flamingo and also were
in Caesars and Bellagio.  They also walked up and down the strip a block
or two.  My son reported that at times they were the only ones wearing face
masks.  In fact, my son stated that you would have thot that no one had
hear of Corona Virus!  My son stated that ALL the machines were on in
Flamingo but some didn't have chairs in front of them.  No matter--if some
one wanted to play a machine with no chair--they'd just stand there with
no concern to the people sitting on the side/s of them!  My son said they
felt the safest at the pool-- where they were truly limiting how many were
allowed into the pool area.  He said you had to get there by at least 9am
to get in or you had a long wait!  He said that they also went over to
Bellagio--  many of the machines were re-spaced or turned off.  Also,
the Black Jack tables had partitions between the players and the dealers.
He also told me about other restrictions--can't remember them all at Bellagio.
I don't totally blame the casinos for the lack of wearing face masks -- if it
really isn't required by law--they can't really enforce it without making
many upset! 
I know that when my hubby and I were there the Mon-Fri before 4th of July-
we were surprised at how "dead" it was at the Luxor.  But come Thur b4 the
4th we could tell it was getting busier.  I was appalled at the number of
families that were there with their little kids and even babies!  But at least
they were all wearing face masks then!
Just checked -- the order to wear Face Masks began July 25 in Nevada.  JH


On Sunday, July 12, 2020, 10:36:04 PM CDT, Lee Crowell lee.crowell@sbcglobal.net [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 08:04:40 PM CDT, harry.porter@verizon.net [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>The June surge in NV reported cases was alarming and a clear sign that a lot of operators really f'd up the re-openings.  
>But I take heart that more effective measures are in place (and I hope bars continue to remain closed until new case 
>numbers fall significantly, only then reopening with a very defined guidance in place).  
>Bottom line, I consider it very much premature to speculate that a new round of casino closures is imminent.

I have a lot of respect for your posts Harry, but I don't understand your statement "a clear sign that a lot of operators f'd up the re-openings."  You seem to think the surge came from activity in casinos.  Is there anyway to verify that?  I don't think there is and as a tourist who was there June 25th thru the 29th, who has now made it through 13 days with no symptoms, I am of the belief things were well managed in the casinos. Heck, in my experience, they were over the top with some ways- I couldn't watch my friend play craps from a distance. I was basically threatened by a floor supervisor to move along.  If the surge did come from casino activity, wouldn't most of those folks, assuming they were tourists like me, have brought home their positive tests, not record them in Nevada?  It sure seemed to be a lot of other tourists where I was.  In my opinion the only questionable place was Fremont Street, so we got out of there quickly. And that had to be more than just tourists.   

I tend to think the surge is likely from the same thing it is/was in other locales where there are issues- people flooded to restaurants, stores, etc. and failed to be careful, thinking they could go back to behaving pre-covid and be fine. Asymptomatic folks passed it along.  But perhaps I am wrong and casinos are the reason for the surges in Nevada. And also Florida, Texas and California. And in Nashville where live. Oh,wait, no casinos here or in Texas.  

Just my .02.

Thanks, Lee.

__._,_.___
Posted by: K/J Haka <kjhaka@yahoo.com>
Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (10)
vpFREE Links:

http://usma1955.com/20228//V/Links.htm

                            ***************************************

vpFREE Messages (since 10 OCT 2019):

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vpfree-archives

                            ***************************************

Old vpFREE Yahoo archives:

http://usma1955.com/20228/V/Yahoo/vpFREE_Yahoo_Archives.htm

.

__,_._,___

Re: [vpFREE] Closing Again

 

Absolutely fair reply and pretty much spot on.  Appreciated.



-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Crowell lee.crowell@sbcglobal.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Jul 12, 2020 11:35 pm
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Closing Again



On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 08:04:40 PM CDT, harry.porter@verizon.net [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>The June surge in NV reported cases was alarming and a clear sign that a lot of operators really f'd up the re-openings.  
>But I take heart that more effective measures are in place (and I hope bars continue to remain closed until new case 
>numbers fall significantly, only then reopening with a very defined guidance in place).  
>Bottom line, I consider it very much premature to speculate that a new round of casino closures is imminent.

I have a lot of respect for your posts Harry, but I don't understand your statement "a clear sign that a lot of operators f'd up the re-openings."  You seem to think the surge came from activity in casinos.  Is there anyway to verify that?  I don't think there is and as a tourist who was there June 25th thru the 29th, who has now made it through 13 days with no symptoms, I am of the belief things were well managed in the casinos. Heck, in my experience, they were over the top with some ways- I couldn't watch my friend play craps from a distance. I was basically threatened by a floor supervisor to move along.  If the surge did come from casino activity, wouldn't most of those folks, assuming they were tourists like me, have brought home their positive tests, not record them in Nevada?  It sure seemed to be a lot of other tourists where I was.  In my opinion the only questionable place was Fremont Street, so we got out of there quickly. And that had to be more than just tourists.   

I tend to think the surge is likely from the same thing it is/was in other locales where there are issues- people flooded to restaurants, stores, etc. and failed to be careful, thinking they could go back to behaving pre-covid and be fine. Asymptomatic folks passed it along.  But perhaps I am wrong and casinos are the reason for the surges in Nevada. And also Florida, Texas and California. And in Nashville where live. Oh,wait, no casinos here or in Texas.  

Just my .02.

Thanks, Lee.


__._,_.___
Posted by: harry.porter@verizon.net
Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (9)
vpFREE Links:

http://usma1955.com/20228//V/Links.htm

                            ***************************************

vpFREE Messages (since 10 OCT 2019):

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vpfree-archives

                            ***************************************

Old vpFREE Yahoo archives:

http://usma1955.com/20228/V/Yahoo/vpFREE_Yahoo_Archives.htm

.

__,_._,___

Re: [vpFREE] Paris Ballys Linq open food outlets, Reward Credits

 

 Tequila Taqueria is also 1:1 -- Check this out:





On Sunday, July 12, 2020, 8:44:21 PM CDT, Neil Martin nemartin2002@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Burger Brasserie is definitely 1-to-1 with RCs (I've redeemed there numerous times).  Have only been to the Bucca de Beppo in Atlantic City (which is also 1-to-1 - so would assume . . . ), and the one time I ate at Hash House in Harrah's (this was 'pre-LINQ') it was 1-to-1.  Don't know about Tequila Taqueria.
On Sunday, July 12, 2020, 05:59:20 PM EDT, gaylen u udyge@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

We were at Paris a couple of weeks ago and found open food outlets sparse.  We did enjoy great burgers and onion rings at the open air/misted Beer Park on the roof of Paris, but RC redemption was 2 to 1.    We enjoyed eating outdoors at the Beer Park and seating was socially distanced.  The wait staff was great and changed gloves between delivering to tables.   When we return to Paris next month we will definitely eat at the Beer Park again, but it does put a good dent in our Reward Credit balance.

 JJ Boulangerie (24 hour, limited menu) and Le Creperie (mornings only, limited menu) were 1 to 1.   A few tables were scattered out in the walkway but we took our food to our room.   Crepes were great for breakfast but I do miss their lunch/dinner crepe menu.   JJ's had some good pre-packed salads but the sandwich menu never changed.  Sandwiches appeared to be pre-made but they would heat them up for you.  Just got a little boring over three days of stay.

With Ballys opening in a couple of weeks, they have said Burger Brasserie, Bucca di Beppo, and Tequila Taqueria will be open too.
Does anyone know if any of these three are 1 to 1 RC redemption?

We would also love to go to Hash House at the Linq.  Is there some type of seating available or just takeout?  Can you redeem RCs for food 1 to 1?

__._,_.___
Posted by: K/J Haka <kjhaka@yahoo.com>
Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (3)
vpFREE Links:

http://usma1955.com/20228//V/Links.htm

                            ***************************************

vpFREE Messages (since 10 OCT 2019):

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vpfree-archives

                            ***************************************

Old vpFREE Yahoo archives:

http://usma1955.com/20228/V/Yahoo/vpFREE_Yahoo_Archives.htm

.

__,_._,___

Re: [vpFREE] Closing Again

 

On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 08:04:40 PM CDT, harry.porter@verizon.net [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>The June surge in NV reported cases was alarming and a clear sign that a lot of operators really f'd up the re-openings.  
>But I take heart that more effective measures are in place (and I hope bars continue to remain closed until new case 
>numbers fall significantly, only then reopening with a very defined guidance in place).  
>Bottom line, I consider it very much premature to speculate that a new round of casino closures is imminent.

I have a lot of respect for your posts Harry, but I don't understand your statement "a clear sign that a lot of operators f'd up the re-openings."  You seem to think the surge came from activity in casinos.  Is there anyway to verify that?  I don't think there is and as a tourist who was there June 25th thru the 29th, who has now made it through 13 days with no symptoms, I am of the belief things were well managed in the casinos. Heck, in my experience, they were over the top with some ways- I couldn't watch my friend play craps from a distance. I was basically threatened by a floor supervisor to move along.  If the surge did come from casino activity, wouldn't most of those folks, assuming they were tourists like me, have brought home their positive tests, not record them in Nevada?  It sure seemed to be a lot of other tourists where I was.  In my opinion the only questionable place was Fremont Street, so we got out of there quickly. And that had to be more than just tourists.   

I tend to think the surge is likely from the same thing it is/was in other locales where there are issues- people flooded to restaurants, stores, etc. and failed to be careful, thinking they could go back to behaving pre-covid and be fine. Asymptomatic folks passed it along.  But perhaps I am wrong and casinos are the reason for the surges in Nevada. And also Florida, Texas and California. And in Nashville where live. Oh,wait, no casinos here or in Texas.  

Just my .02.

Thanks, Lee.

__._,_.___
Posted by: Lee Crowell <lee.crowell@sbcglobal.net>
Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (8)
vpFREE Links:

http://usma1955.com/20228//V/Links.htm

                            ***************************************

vpFREE Messages (since 10 OCT 2019):

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vpfree-archives

                            ***************************************

Old vpFREE Yahoo archives:

http://usma1955.com/20228/V/Yahoo/vpFREE_Yahoo_Archives.htm

.

__,_._,___

Re: [vpFREE] Paris Ballys Linq open food outlets, Reward Credits

 

Burger Brasserie is definitely 1-to-1 with RCs (I've redeemed there numerous times).  Have only been to the Bucca de Beppo in Atlantic City (which is also 1-to-1 - so would assume . . . ), and the one time I ate at Hash House in Harrah's (this was 'pre-LINQ') it was 1-to-1.  Don't know about Tequila Taqueria.
On Sunday, July 12, 2020, 05:59:20 PM EDT, gaylen u udyge@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

We were at Paris a couple of weeks ago and found open food outlets sparse.  We did enjoy great burgers and onion rings at the open air/misted Beer Park on the roof of Paris, but RC redemption was 2 to 1.    We enjoyed eating outdoors at the Beer Park and seating was socially distanced.  The wait staff was great and changed gloves between delivering to tables.   When we return to Paris next month we will definitely eat at the Beer Park again, but it does put a good dent in our Reward Credit balance.

 JJ Boulangerie (24 hour, limited menu) and Le Creperie (mornings only, limited menu) were 1 to 1.   A few tables were scattered out in the walkway but we took our food to our room.   Crepes were great for breakfast but I do miss their lunch/dinner crepe menu.   JJ's had some good pre-packed salads but the sandwich menu never changed.  Sandwiches appeared to be pre-made but they would heat them up for you.  Just got a little boring over three days of stay.

With Ballys opening in a couple of weeks, they have said Burger Brasserie, Bucca di Beppo, and Tequila Taqueria will be open too.
Does anyone know if any of these three are 1 to 1 RC redemption?

We would also love to go to Hash House at the Linq.  Is there some type of seating available or just takeout?  Can you redeem RCs for food 1 to 1?

__._,_.___
Posted by: Neil Martin <nemartin2002@yahoo.com>
Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (2)
vpFREE Links:

http://usma1955.com/20228//V/Links.htm

                            ***************************************

vpFREE Messages (since 10 OCT 2019):

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vpfree-archives

                            ***************************************

Old vpFREE Yahoo archives:

http://usma1955.com/20228/V/Yahoo/vpFREE_Yahoo_Archives.htm

.

__,_._,___

[vpFREE] Paris Ballys Linq open food outlets, Reward Credits

 

We were at Paris a couple of weeks ago and found open food outlets sparse.  We did enjoy great burgers and onion rings at the open air/misted Beer Park on the roof of Paris, but RC redemption was 2 to 1.    We enjoyed eating outdoors at the Beer Park and seating was socially distanced.  The wait staff was great and changed gloves between delivering to tables.   When we return to Paris next month we will definitely eat at the Beer Park again, but it does put a good dent in our Reward Credit balance.

 JJ Boulangerie (24 hour, limited menu) and Le Creperie (mornings only, limited menu) were 1 to 1.   A few tables were scattered out in the walkway but we took our food to our room.   Crepes were great for breakfast but I do miss their lunch/dinner crepe menu.   JJ's had some good pre-packed salads but the sandwich menu never changed.  Sandwiches appeared to be pre-made but they would heat them up for you.  Just got a little boring over three days of stay.

With Ballys opening in a couple of weeks, they have said Burger Brasserie, Bucca di Beppo, and Tequila Taqueria will be open too.
Does anyone know if any of these three are 1 to 1 RC redemption?

We would also love to go to Hash House at the Linq.  Is there some type of seating available or just takeout?  Can you redeem RCs for food 1 to 1?

__._,_.___
Posted by: gaylen u <udyge@yahoo.com>
Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1)
vpFREE Links:

http://usma1955.com/20228//V/Links.htm

                            ***************************************

vpFREE Messages (since 10 OCT 2019):

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vpfree-archives

                            ***************************************

Old vpFREE Yahoo archives:

http://usma1955.com/20228/V/Yahoo/vpFREE_Yahoo_Archives.htm

.

__,_._,___

[vpFREE] Vegas Values - 12 JUL 2020

 

Vegas Values - 12 JUL 2020

https://www.americancasinoguidebook.com/vegas-values/vegas-values-report-7-5-20-the-best-las-vegas-casino-promotions.html

or

https://tinyurl.com/yapvvo9u

*************************************************
This link is posted for informational purposes
and doesn't constitute an endorsement or approval
of the linked article's content by vpFREE. Any
discussion of the article must be done in
accordance with vpFREE's rules and policies.
*************************************************

__._,_.___
Posted by: vpFREE3355 <vpFREE3355@gmail.com>
Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1)
vpFREE Links:

http://usma1955.com/20228//V/Links.htm

                            ***************************************

vpFREE Messages (since 10 OCT 2019):

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vpfree-archives

                            ***************************************

Old vpFREE Yahoo archives:

http://usma1955.com/20228/V/Yahoo/vpFREE_Yahoo_Archives.htm

.

__,_._,___

[vpFREE] xVP LV Closing Again?/LV Trip Safety findings

 

After reading the many helpful updates from this group, I just took a quick trip to Caesars LV, departing on Wednesday.  It was after a lot of internal debate, and a reluctant "OK" from other family members.  And I'll admit to being a bit motivated by the concern of another LV shutdown, leaving few options to use 4 weeks of remaining vacation this year! 

 

Full disclosure, I live in an area where most people are vocal in their defiance of CDC guidelines  and even the local sheriffs actively lead the rebellion against the mask ordinance.  (sigh)  Except for my workplace (which does follow the guidelines) our ventures out of the house are limited to essential grocery runs, where we are in the minority of mask-wearers.  So yeah….cabin fever from being largely quarantined since mid-March.

 

From the time I entered the Charlotte airport, it was a different world.  Full mask compliance, and easy distancing due to the low volume of passengers.  I was surprised to learn that my flight was fully booked – all seats, with a wait list (American).  Having booked First Class to minimize crowding, I was able to avoid queueing, though the people boarding in later groups seemed bunched together as usual.  Also was fortunate on both flights to get an elderly seatmate from a high compliance area, so felt good about the air travel safety in general.  (And yes, I cleaned everything, but I've done that for years anyway LOL)

 

Arrived at McCarran to find it a virtual ghost town.  In over 200 trips, all times of day and night, I have never seen the airport like that.  Surreal, with only 2 people on the tram and baggage claim empty, I had an open path to level Zero to meet the limo.  For the first time ever, the driver kept the window up, though we were much farther then 6 feet apart.  But it was a welcome relief to take the mask off after almost 6 hours!

 

Entering through Augustus tower, there was only 1 other person checking in, and he was at the opposite end of the room.  Mask dispenser was near the outside entrance, and it was easy to see hand sanitizers and floor markings everywhere. The room was sealed with the red tape, saying that it had been sanitized, though I must question via what methods.  Seeing housekeepers in the hallways over the next 3 days, none of them had those sprayers that would cover every surface in a room.  And in a multi-room suite, I question the feasibility of touching EVERY surface.  Plus, the mini-bar had been decommissioned, but had been obviously used by the last occupant as a fridge because there were leftovers in it!  That creeped me out a bit, but I did little more than store some water bottles, which I cleaned with my ample supply of wipes.  Still, it leaves open questions around the full cleanliness of the room. But I was glad to see the disgusting decorative pillows missing from the bed.  Don't most people just throw them on the floor?   Coffeemaker was also gone, but I had planned for that and had my trusty portable and supplies. Also, plastic bags to put over the TV remote (another longtime habit, after watching Hotel Impossible, ha-ha)  Ironically, once the TV was on, it showed a message that you could control it through a phone app.  Hmmm.

 

In the casino, mask compliance was extremely high, with personnel policing it non-stop.  Only saw 1 "chin-strapper" during 3 days and he was quickly given polite but firm guidance to cover up.  I also saw and heard reminders for people who even had the mask slip a bit under their noses.  FULL COVERAGE.  People did drop them to drink, but didn't leave them down for long without the mask police stepping in. Really, distancing was so easy that I would have been comfortable with no masks much of the time.  And I don't mean 6 feet…..it was more like a 20-30 foot radius available most of the time.    Granted, I played early morning, as usual, and retired to the room by early afternoon, so probably missed the more crowded times.  This has been my routine for years anyway, staying on Eastern Time, and avoiding crowded times.  All these years I just didn't know it was called social distancing, LOL.

 

The custodial staff was wiping everything down regularly, though not necessarily after every machine use.   I often tip these forgotten people, but it backfired on me a bit.  After giving one lady $5 on the first morning, she wanted to hover like a gnat, and I had to finally ask her to give me some space!  In some areas, there were dispensers of the largest wipes I've ever seen.  Enough to easily clean the entire machine front, plus any chair areas that I might touch for adjustment.  

 

Food options were limited, but I actually found 1 improvement –  breakfast available before 9AM.  Lack of early-morning breakfast has been my pet peeve with Caesars for a while now.  Smashburger was open at 7AM, serving breakfast sandwiches, so at least it was something.  I did not check out any other restaurant offerings this trip, opting to just snack in the room later.

 

McCarran was a bit busier for Saturday's return flight, but still not close to normal levels.

 

So considering Harry's comment that "it will be squarely on the operators' shoulders", I must give Caesars full credit for their diligence.   I'd suggest that there is another factor of human behavior though, which the casinos cannot control beyond  their doors.  If people drop the masks and distancing as soon as they walk out of the property, that may negate all of the casino's efforts.  I guess only time will tell.

 

Good luck and stay safe everyone.

 

 

 

__._,_.___
Posted by: Marsha Cuddington <mcuddington@hotmail.com>
Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1)
vpFREE Links:

http://usma1955.com/20228//V/Links.htm

                            ***************************************

vpFREE Messages (since 10 OCT 2019):

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vpfree-archives

                            ***************************************

Old vpFREE Yahoo archives:

http://usma1955.com/20228/V/Yahoo/vpFREE_Yahoo_Archives.htm

.

__,_._,___
Subscribe to: Posts (Atom)