Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

 

No I wouldn't....at least not one so far away. To me, there's no difference going to the Peppermill for instance, for some play with no promotion, or to Revel for this loss rebate. And that's because I don't ever play expecting to lose. But if such a promo ever became available in a nearby casino and I were going to play anyway, that's the casino I'd visit.

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Date: Mon, Jul 8, 2013 6:10 pm
Rob-

If you were in AC right now would you play the promo?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:

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> You would expect that as seasoned, experienced players, they'd have known trying to game the system in any way during such a huge promotion, just may cause them the headaches they now have over this. Hmm....looks like the Revel casino suits aren't as dumb as some have proclaimed they are.

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> It's their own fault and they know it. Whining that "bbbut, I LOST thousands while I was playing" is simply what goes around comes around. There's people there playing by the rules. I know at least two who are cheering Revel for keeping the bad guys at bay.

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> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

> Date: Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:30 pm

> I would think anyone that came forward to publicly complain to a governmental agency and is a big VP player would be nervous about a having a high profile. I don't think this will jump to the mainstream press. I would not consider uspoker.com on the same level as the NYT, WSJ or Washington Post. I doubt this story will make it to the Huffington Post.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

 



I don't agree with it or like it, just saying a skilled table games player playing within the rules is used to the treatment. The cocktail waitress example hasnt happened and its not a direct comparison. I hope that those who played it honestly and got screwed are reimbursed, but I don't think it's likely that gaming would rule in their favor.

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On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 7:26 PM CDT Gregory Bart Jr. wrote:

>Since when does "management" have "the right" to abrogate an
>expressly-stated agreement with a customer.
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>If you place a bet on a blackjack table, the casino management does not
>have "the right" to have the cocktail waitress swipe it off
>the table, quoting it's "right" to do as it pleases.
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>On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jake Radel <jakeradel@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Thing is, revel is likely within their rights to deny anyone they choose
>> the promo, even if they play within the rules, the management reserves all
>> rights clause. Silver sevens, formerly terrible's, stiffed me on their 10%
>> table games rebate onlosses over 1k the second time I tried to collect it.
>> They had ample reason for them not to want me to play blackjack there based
>> on skill level whether or not I played within the rules.
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>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 6:30 PM CDT richard d wrote:
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>> >I would think anyone that came forward to publicly complain to a
>> governmental agency and is a big VP player would be nervous about a having
>> a high profile. I don't think this will jump to the mainstream press. I
>> would not consider uspoker.com on the same level as the NYT, WSJ or
>> Washington Post. I doubt this story will make it to the Huffington Post.
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>> >--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
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>> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@> wrote:
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>> > > had imagined that Mickey's ego was sufficiently intact that he
>> wouldn't have come forward with a "lookee what I came up with" post)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > I only posted it here after it became public information vis a vis WoV.
>> But I do admit to some vanity here. I haven't been in the types of casinos
>> you guys play for almost 7 years. Everything is totally different here. But
>> I was extremely confident that, with hundreds of different kinds of games
>> available these days, someone would find a way to beat the cardreaders at
>> Revel. And I was right. Whether they get the rebates is another question.
>> >
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>> http://www.uspoker.com/blog/players-accuse-revel-of-not-honoring-100000-loss-rebate-promotion/4647/
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[vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

 


Rob-
If you were in AC right now would you play the promo?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111@yahoo.com" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:
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> You would expect that as seasoned, experienced players, they'd have known trying to game the system in any way during such a huge promotion, just may cause them the headaches they now have over this. Hmm....looks like the Revel casino suits aren't as dumb as some have proclaimed they are.
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> It's their own fault and they know it. Whining that "bbbut, I LOST thousands while I was playing" is simply what goes around comes around. There's people there playing by the rules. I know at least two who are cheering Revel for keeping the bad guys at bay.
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> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate
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> I would think anyone that came forward to publicly complain to a governmental agency and is a big VP player would be nervous about a having a high profile. I don't think this will jump to the mainstream press. I would not consider uspoker.com on the same level as the NYT, WSJ or Washington Post. I doubt this story will make it to the Huffington Post.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

Since when does "management" have "the right" to abrogate an
expressly-stated agreement with a customer.

If you place a bet on a blackjack table, the casino management does not
have "the right" to have the cocktail waitress swipe it off
the table, quoting it's "right" to do as it pleases.


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jake Radel <jakeradel@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> Thing is, revel is likely within their rights to deny anyone they choose
> the promo, even if they play within the rules, the management reserves all
> rights clause. Silver sevens, formerly terrible's, stiffed me on their 10%
> table games rebate onlosses over 1k the second time I tried to collect it.
> They had ample reason for them not to want me to play blackjack there based
> on skill level whether or not I played within the rules.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 6:30 PM CDT richard d wrote:
>
> >I would think anyone that came forward to publicly complain to a
> governmental agency and is a big VP player would be nervous about a having
> a high profile. I don't think this will jump to the mainstream press. I
> would not consider uspoker.com on the same level as the NYT, WSJ or
> Washington Post. I doubt this story will make it to the Huffington Post.
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> >--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
> >>
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> >> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > had imagined that Mickey's ego was sufficiently intact that he
> wouldn't have come forward with a "lookee what I came up with" post)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I only posted it here after it became public information vis a vis WoV.
> But I do admit to some vanity here. I haven't been in the types of casinos
> you guys play for almost 7 years. Everything is totally different here. But
> I was extremely confident that, with hundreds of different kinds of games
> available these days, someone would find a way to beat the cardreaders at
> Revel. And I was right. Whether they get the rebates is another question.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.uspoker.com/blog/players-accuse-revel-of-not-honoring-100000-loss-rebate-promotion/4647/
> >>
> >> We'll see if the bigger news outlets pick up on the story.
> >>
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[vpFREE] Re: Tunica Roadhouse

 

Well, until Mississippi changes their state laws, which they won't, because > 100% long-term return is also illegal, this is simply the the best you can really do in that state. It's still better than many other choices across the country. If you insist on doing much better than this, you really have to live in Nevada.

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> All these "good" games, all under 100% with perfect play. 9/6 DDB under 99%. Also forgetting Miss. 3% tax on W2g's which you
> never get back. Really hurts on high limit super Ace's.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

 



Thing is, revel is likely within their rights to deny anyone they choose the promo, even if they play within the rules, the management reserves all rights clause. Silver sevens, formerly terrible's, stiffed me on their 10% table games rebate onlosses over 1k the second time I tried to collect it. They had ample reason for them not to want me to play blackjack there based on skill level whether or not I played within the rules.

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On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 6:30 PM CDT richard d wrote:

>I would think anyone that came forward to publicly complain to a governmental agency and is a big VP player would be nervous about a having a high profile. I don't think this will jump to the mainstream press. I would not consider uspoker.com on the same level as the NYT, WSJ or Washington Post. I doubt this story will make it to the Huffington Post.
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>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
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>> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@> wrote:
>> >
>> > had imagined that Mickey's ego was sufficiently intact that he wouldn't have come forward with a "lookee what I came up with" post)
>> >
>> >
>> I only posted it here after it became public information vis a vis WoV. But I do admit to some vanity here. I haven't been in the types of casinos you guys play for almost 7 years. Everything is totally different here. But I was extremely confident that, with hundreds of different kinds of games available these days, someone would find a way to beat the cardreaders at Revel. And I was right. Whether they get the rebates is another question.
>>
>> http://www.uspoker.com/blog/players-accuse-revel-of-not-honoring-100000-loss-rebate-promotion/4647/
>>
>> We'll see if the bigger news outlets pick up on the story.
>>
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[vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
> I only posted it here after it became public information vis a vis WoV. But I do admit to some vanity here. I haven't been in the types of casinos you guys play for almost 7 years. Everything is totally different here. But I was extremely confident that, with hundreds of different kinds of games available these days, someone would find a way to beat the cardreaders at Revel. And I was right. Whether they get the rebates is another question.
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Being that there were already people scamming $100 rebate programs, I doubt anyone was surprised that people would try to scam a $100,000 rebate program.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

 

You would expect that as seasoned, experienced players, they'd have known trying to game the system in any way during such a huge promotion, just may cause them the headaches they now have over this. Hmm....looks like the Revel casino suits aren't as dumb as some have proclaimed they are.

It's their own fault and they know it. Whining that "bbbut, I LOST thousands while I was playing" is simply what goes around comes around. There's people there playing by the rules. I know at least two who are cheering Revel for keeping the bad guys at bay.

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To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate
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I would think anyone that came forward to publicly complain to a governmental agency and is a big VP player would be nervous about a having a high profile. I don't think this will jump to the mainstream press. I would not consider uspoker.com on the same level as the NYT, WSJ or Washington Post. I doubt this story will make it to the Huffington Post.

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[vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

 

I would think anyone that came forward to publicly complain to a governmental agency and is a big VP player would be nervous about a having a high profile. I don't think this will jump to the mainstream press. I would not consider uspoker.com on the same level as the NYT, WSJ or Washington Post. I doubt this story will make it to the Huffington Post.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@> wrote:
> >
> > had imagined that Mickey's ego was sufficiently intact that he wouldn't have come forward with a "lookee what I came up with" post)
> >
> >
> I only posted it here after it became public information vis a vis WoV. But I do admit to some vanity here. I haven't been in the types of casinos you guys play for almost 7 years. Everything is totally different here. But I was extremely confident that, with hundreds of different kinds of games available these days, someone would find a way to beat the cardreaders at Revel. And I was right. Whether they get the rebates is another question.
>
> http://www.uspoker.com/blog/players-accuse-revel-of-not-honoring-100000-loss-rebate-promotion/4647/
>
> We'll see if the bigger news outlets pick up on the story.
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[vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@...> wrote:
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> had imagined that Mickey's ego was sufficiently intact that he wouldn't have come forward with a "lookee what I came up with" post)
>
>
I only posted it here after it became public information vis a vis WoV. But I do admit to some vanity here. I haven't been in the types of casinos you guys play for almost 7 years. Everything is totally different here. But I was extremely confident that, with hundreds of different kinds of games available these days, someone would find a way to beat the cardreaders at Revel. And I was right. Whether they get the rebates is another question.

http://www.uspoker.com/blog/players-accuse-revel-of-not-honoring-100000-loss-rebate-promotion/4647/

We'll see if the bigger news outlets pick up on the story.

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[vpFREE] Re: Revel's Loss Rebate

 

I did the match bonus coin 3 times last week and they did return my flyer after making a note on it that they had matched it.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "barboop_11229" <Boopsahoy@...> wrote:
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> The most interesting part of the promotion to me is matching freeplay. Ill be in AC 4 days and have between 150-200 slot dollars each day from Taj-if they match it each day thats an extra 6-800 bucks.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@> wrote:
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> > No way in hell are they going to allow you to sit there at a high limit machine and essentially take a free roll at a $20K or $100K royal.
> > I would STRONGLY advise anyone not to throw big money at this. They WILL find a way to weasel out of it.
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Revel, in Atlantic City, is offering players 100% of their slot and video poker losses from July 1-31 up to $100,000. The rebate comes in the form of free play over 20 or so visits.
> > >
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> > > This is a HUGE player-friendly promotion. Munchkin and I would like to talk about it on the air next Thursday evening (that show will be taped Tuesday afternoon due to our guest's availability).
> > >
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> > > If there is somebody who can take a picture of the rules and send it to gamblingwithanedge@ (or post them on vpFREE) it will help us in our analysis. Maybe it's for new members only? Maybe certain machines are excluded? Maybe . . ? Looking at the rules will help us figure it out.
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[vpFREE] Re: Tunica Roadhouse

 


All these "good" games, all under 100% with perfect play. 9/6 DDB under 99%. Also forgetting Miss. 3% tax on W2g's which you
never get back. Really hurts on high limit super Ace's.

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