Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 4 AUG 2012
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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 4 AUG 2012
[vpFREE] Choctaw Casino in Durant, OK
"Video poker in class II form involves a game in which the game result is
centrally determined (loss or win/amount) and the machine will produce a
hand consistent with that determined win. Because the player can "interfere"
with that result as a consequence of their hold decision, the machines I've
seen have a second bonus mechanism that's used to ensure that the
predetermined win is awarded. Class II vp doesn't adhere to standard card
probabilities and typically all players in the casino, slot and vp, are
playing under identical odds -- driven by the central determining
processor."
Huh? So the "good" video poker has the same ER as the lousy slots?
Re: [vpFREE] Re: Credits left in machine; Trespass/ wasJean Scott's Frugal V LVA BLOG - 7/29
Here is some more information on ther Michigan case....Romanski v. Detroit Entertainment, LLC.
, 428 F.3d 629 (6th Cir. 2008): Plaintiff, a seventy-two year old woman, was playing slot machines the defendant's casino when she found a five cent token unattended to in a slot machine tray. The token was not hers, but she noticed no chairs around the slot machine and picked up the five cent token for herself. Four casino employees proceeded to surround her and asked plaintiff to accompany her to the casino's small, windowless "security office" or "interview room." Plaintiff was told she had engaged in a practice disallowed by the casino known as "slot-walking." However, plaintiff could not have known this because the casino did not post this policy anywhere. It is undisputed that plaintiff therefore did not have notice of this policy. One of the defendant security officers claimed she was a police officer, had a badge, and appeared to have handcuffs. Plaintiff was added to the defendant casino's eviction list for six months. While the defendant
security officers detained plaintiff, they did not allow her to eat lunch, they watched her as she went to the bathroom, and falsely told plaintiff's friends that she had stolen from the casino.
The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the findings of the trial court, holding that the jury instruction that the plaintiff, as the finder of the five cent token left in a slot machine, had superior title to the token than did the casino was not confusing, misleading, or prejudicial, especially in light of the insignificance of the five cent token and the casino's decision to deal with the situation by dispatching a team of security personnel to detain and interrogate the plaintiff.
The court also found the punitive damage award of $600,000 to the plaintiff, who was detained and interrogated, forced to endure the indignity of having a security officer stand guard outside her restroom stall, and was ejected from the casino to the outdoors in hot and humid weather, after having taken a five cent token from one slot machine, would satisfy the demands of the due process clause. As a result, the plaintiff would be given the option of agreeing to remit $275,000 and accept a $600,000 punitive damages award or proceed with a new trial on damages. The award was 60% of the casino's daily intake and was within the ballpark of punitive damages awarded in other civil rights cases against corporate defendants.
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Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Credits left in machine; Trespass/ wasJean Scott's Frugal V LVA BLOG - 7/29
An ID to cash tickets at the cage? I've never run into that after cashing hundreds of 4-figure tickets, the highest being around $6000, at dozens of Nevada casinos over the years.
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> The money does not belong to the casino. There was a Michigan case where an elderly woman was confined for retrieving a nickel and the casino claimed it was the casino's money. Consistent with the law of abandoned property in private property, the lady won her lawsuit and was awarded $600,000 in punitive damages.
Some more interesting "facts" to ponder. When tickets get large enough, casinos require photo ID to cash them. They also match the ID to the information from the ticket the information was actually on your ticket (your players club card was in the machine, wasn't it?). That kinda brings up all kinds of other interesting issues/stories... but they are for another day.
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Hi fellow button pushers,
The first 4 installments of this older, but never before published,
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installment.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Credits left in machine; Trespass/ wasJean Scott's Frugal V LVA BLOG - 7/29
An ID to cash tickets at the cage? I've never run into that after cashing hundreds of 4-figure tickets, the highest being around $6000, at dozens of Nevada casinos over the years.
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> The money does not belong to the casino. There was a Michigan case where an elderly woman was confined for retrieving a nickel and the casino claimed it was the casino's money. Consistent with the law of abandoned property in private property, the lady won her lawsuit and was awarded $600,000 in punitive damages.
Some more interesting "facts" to ponder. When tickets get large enough, casinos require photo ID to cash them. They also match the ID to the information from the ticket the information was actually on your ticket (your players club card was in the machine, wasn't it?). That kinda brings up all kinds of other interesting issues/stories... but they are for another day.
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Thanks James,
Boston-Vegas RT for $220 in November. Sweet.
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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 4 AUG 2012
LVA Question of the Day - 4 AUG 2012
Q: I always like reading about all the expensive restaurants
I will never patronize. Maybe happy hours are affordable? A
listing of $20 (more or less) lunch specials at "expensive"
restaurants would be great! I am always looking for quality
at an affordable price. Cosmo's deal is great, but after
three times the menu still has not changed.
Read the answer here:
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