[vpFREE] some thoughts on the April 5 GWAE radio show

 

the discussion was about a second royal pays double promotion on jacks or better

just off hand, I think if your goal is to maximize the return of the royal, then min-cost-royal strategy is the winner, in this case with no cashback, it would be at a royal of about 4900. Two average royal cycles would be 71,746 hands. Cashback would change that.

on the other hand if your goal is to maximize the per hand return, that would be a bit different. You would start with the strategy for the double royal, that would be at a royal of 8000. That would give you an EV of 3051 once you subtract the average cost to hit the royal. So, the strategy for hitting the first royal would be at a royal of 7051 (4000+3051). Hitting that first royal has that true net EV, so that's the strategy. Two average royal cycles would be about 65,817 hands.

you could also play a strategy with an average royal, that being 6000, and that would be somewhere between max royal return and max per hand return.






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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Not Winning Like the Old Days

 

I played this game for a few years at my local joint and actually made some decent pocket change. I think it was a bank of ten or twelve machines. I used to come in when the minor was about $22 or so, it re-set to $10. Yes, many people short-coined it and that was always sweet sitting there free-rolling. One morning I walked in about 3:00 a.m. and the minor was like $45 and no one was playing. Holy shit, I sat down so fast I almost ripped my pants. I peeled it off pretty fast.

Sadly, and incredibly, our slot manager, a true genius in his own right, pulled this extremely popular game. Even God probably doesn't understand why he did that. This guy is constantly moving machines in and out, no matter how popular or profitable they may be. And he's giving ice in the winter time with video poker, screwed down tight tight tight. But alas, back to the Red Hot Jackpots, it's been gone now at least over a year. This guy ruins everything.



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I'll see if I can throw you guys a bone. I'm gonna put up a screenshot and a youtube video of Red Hot Jackpots. According to what I've read online this IGT game is available all over the United States, except its not here in Montana. Unless the machines have been pulled out you should have no problem finding this game in the major markets. I ran into the game in Deadwood, South Dakota. So here is the screenshot. I'll write about the game below the screenshot.

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This is the one cent version of the game. The four machines are linked together. It's a five reel machine. You can see the four different progressives. The key meter is the small meter, the one at $5.41. It resets at $5 and runs at 5%.

The main symbol in this game is the Red Hot Jackpots symbol. When making a max bet of 100 coins ($1) and you catch 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols in the window you are awarded 8 free spins. You get payed for all line pays....and you get 1 point for every Red Hot Jackpot symbol you catch during the free games. If you collect 8 points you get the money in the small meter.

If, during the free games, you catch 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols in one spin you are awarded another 8 free spins and you get a shot at the next meter up which, in the screenshot is at $28.95. Collect 8 points during the free spins and you get that meter, etc.

The strategy to this game is to key off the ploppie action. Bet the minimum and just goof off until the small meter reaches $9. Then you go to the max bet and play until you catch the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols or someone else does. Playing at $9 or higher will cover the cost of trying to get into free game mode.

If there were three other players on this bank betting max coins they are only going to have to miss catching the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols a collective 80 spins to put the small meter on $9.

But the most ideal situation would be if those three players were all short coining, say betting 50 cents each. They are running the meter up but not qualifying for it. Every time the meter reaches $9 you don't have any competition playing for it.

And another good thing about this play. If the rest are short coining and you catch the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols, you have to hit the start button to start the free games. As long as the rest are short coining you can sit there and let them continue to run the meter up before you take your shot at getting the 8 points.

But it doesn't really matter what situation you run into. Its all good as long as you wait for the small meter to get to $9 before playing.

And here's some more good news. This game also comes in 5 cent denom. The small meter starts at $25 and you wait until the meter hits $45.

Here's a youtube video of the 5 cent denom. The video starts when the lady caught the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols and then hit the start button to start the free games. They turned the camera off at 2:27 then turned it back on again when the lady caught the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols again.

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Re: [vpFREE] statistically significant

 

my bad..missed you spent one benjamin :(

for those 20 tier credits


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I know that this is within the normal statistical bell curve, but...
I was just playing 9/6 DDB at Harrah's-AC on machines that credit at the
rate of $10=1 tier credit. I was playing for $.50 and $1. I lost $1,000.
But, I never got one quad. Of all the times I was dealt two pair, only once
did I pull a full house. On one Benjamin, I only pulled in 20 tier credits
before it was gone. It was the fastest and suckiest session I think I've
ever had. Just saying, it can be this bad and still be within the normal
range of statistical expectations. Math sucks.
Stu

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Re: [vpFREE] statistically significant

 

Isn't something wrong with that math..10 bucks for one tier credit should
be at

least 100 tier points for 1000 bucks...shouldn't it??


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full

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[vpFREE] statistically significant

 

I know that this is within the normal statistical bell curve, but...
I was just playing 9/6 DDB at Harrah's-AC on machines that credit at the
rate of $10=1 tier credit. I was playing for $.50 and $1. I lost $1,000.
But, I never got one quad. Of all the times I was dealt two pair, only once
did I pull a full house. On one Benjamin, I only pulled in 20 tier credits
before it was gone. It was the fastest and suckiest session I think I've
ever had. Just saying, it can be this bad and still be within the normal
range of statistical expectations. Math sucks.
Stu

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Not Winning Like the Old Days

 

I'll see if I can throw you guys a bone. I'm gonna put up a screenshot and a youtube video of Red Hot Jackpots. According to what I've read online this IGT game is available all over the United States, except its not here in Montana. Unless the machines have been pulled out you should have no problem finding this game in the major markets. I ran into the game in Deadwood, South Dakota. So here is the screenshot. I'll write about the game below the screenshot.

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This is the one cent version of the game. The four machines are linked together. It's a five reel machine. You can see the four different progressives. The key meter is the small meter, the one at $5.41. It resets at $5 and runs at 5%.

The main symbol in this game is the Red Hot Jackpots symbol. When making a max bet of 100 coins ($1) and you catch 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols in the window you are awarded 8 free spins. You get payed for all line pays....and you get 1 point for every Red Hot Jackpot symbol you catch during the free games. If you collect 8 points you get the money in the small meter.

If, during the free games, you catch 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols in one spin you are awarded another 8 free spins and you get a shot at the next meter up which, in the screenshot is at $28.95. Collect 8 points during the free spins and you get that meter, etc.

The strategy to this game is to key off the ploppie action. Bet the minimum and just goof off until the small meter reaches $9. Then you go to the max bet and play until you catch the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols or someone else does. Playing at $9 or higher will cover the cost of trying to get into free game mode.

If there were three other players on this bank betting max coins they are only going to have to miss catching the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols a collective 80 spins to put the small meter on $9.

But the most ideal situation would be if those three players were all short coining, say betting 50 cents each. They are running the meter up but not qualifying for it. Every time the meter reaches $9 you don't have any competition playing for it.

And another good thing about this play. If the rest are short coining and you catch the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols, you have to hit the start button to start the free games. As long as the rest are short coining you can sit there and let them continue to run the meter up before you take your shot at getting the 8 points.

But it doesn't really matter what situation you run into. Its all good as long as you wait for the small meter to get to $9 before playing.

And here's some more good news. This game also comes in 5 cent denom. The small meter starts at $25 and you wait until the meter hits $45.

Here's a youtube video of the 5 cent denom. The video starts when the lady caught the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols and then hit the start button to start the free games. They turned the camera off at 2:27 then turned it back on again when the lady caught the 3 Red Hot Jackpot symbols again.

Red Hot Jackpots Progessive wins ~ IGT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJQyUbQPGa0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJQyUbQPGa0

Red Hot Jackpots Progessive wins ~ IGT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJQyUbQPGa0 Back to back progressive hits on this game. $5 bet per spin, thank good ness this game was working for me! Barona Casino 9-22-12



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[vpFREE] Vegas, Inc: Former Sparks Nugget ownership fined $1 million

 

Vegas, Inc: Former Sparks Nugget ownership fined $1 million

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